New Generation Who Will Push On.?

[stratton]

After seeing the comments of people who went to Berwick and seeing the promising quality of that field who do people think will push on and be the new generation in the GP /series.? Janowski, Dudek,Pawlicki(senior) Pawlicki(junior) Bech, Jepsen Jensen. The Pawlicki brothers both impress me and those two certainly could be the future Piotr really has impressed me the rest of those named have great claims also as an outsider a spoiler i think Lebedev has potential to.

[MattK]

It's easy to forget that Ward is only 21 and Sayfudinov is 23, as they seem to have been on the scene for such a long time.

 

I think they will dominate the GPs over the next decade.

 

Janowski will make it to the GPs, but I can't see him ever becoming world champion, same with Dudek. Not sure about the Pawlicki brothers and Bech seems to have gone right off the boil since last season. I don't think MJJ will ever be more than a good club rider.

 

Not sure about the Latvians. Will they ever move away from the comfort of Daugavpils to ride in the Ekstraliga?

[LagutaRacingFan]

It's easy to forget that Ward is only 21 and Sayfudinov is 23, as they seem to have been on the scene for such a long time.

 

I think they will dominate the GPs over the next decade.

 

Janowski will make it to the GPs, but I can't see him ever becoming world champion, same with Dudek. Not sure about the Pawlicki brothers and Bech seems to have gone right off the boil since last season. I don't think MJJ will ever be more than a good club rider.

 

Not sure about the Latvians. Will they ever move away from the comfort of Daugavpils to ride in the Ekstraliga?

 

Nonsense.

He's the World U21 champion and he's also won a GP.

[JCookie]

No doubt a few Poles will disappear in time.

[BWitcher]

It's easy to forget that Ward is only 21 and Sayfudinov is 23, as they seem to have been on the scene for such a long time.

 

I think they will dominate the GPs over the next decade.

 

Janowski will make it to the GPs, but I can't see him ever becoming world champion, same with Dudek. Not sure about the Pawlicki brothers and Bech seems to have gone right off the boil since last season. I don't think MJJ will ever be more than a good club rider.

 

 

Not sure about the Latvians. Will they ever move away from the comfort of Daugavpils to ride in the Ekstraliga?

 

No mention of Woffinden??

Edited August 13, 2013 by BWitcher

[Nutz]

More importantly, who will be the big crowd pullers in years to come? I don't see any rider with the combined ability and attitude of a Pedersen/Gollob to really put bums on seats.

Yes, Ward, Sayfutdinov, Woffinden are entertainment on a bike but I don't see any riders (them included) that have a character about them that make people look forward to seeing what they're going to do next.

 

Pedersen and to a lesser extent Gollob are still the box office in the SGP series. But when they've retired gracefully, who's going to come in and really light up a meeting with their antics on and off track? I don't see anyone with that nature and that kinda saddens me.

 

As good a riders as the likes of some of those named previously are, most have the personality of a fish! (That's not Ryan by the way whom, if he could ever get to GP level, would certainly be a "crowd pleaser")!

 

The younger of the Pawlicki's has a bit of character about him, as does Kasprzak if he stays in the top 8. but I can't name one Dane, Swede, Aussie or Brit that you can guarantee will leave you talking about a meeting.

 

Sad times...

Edited August 13, 2013 by Nutz

[stratton]

More importantly, who will be the big crowd pullers in years to come? I don't see any rider with the combined ability and attitude of a Pedersen/Gollob to really put bums on seats.

Yes, Ward, Sayfutdinov, Woffinden are entertainment on a bike but I don't see any riders (them included) that have a character about them that make people look forward to seeing what they're going to do next.

 

Pedersen and to a lesser extent Gollob are still the box office in the SGP series. But when they've retired gracefully, who's going to come in and really light up a meeting with their antics on and off track? I don't see anyone with that nature and that kinda saddens me.

 

As good a riders as the likes of some of those named previously are, most have the personality of a fish! (That's not Ryan by the way whom, if he could ever get to GP level, would certainly be a "crowd pleaser")!

 

The younger of the Pawlicki's has a bit of character about him, as does Kasprzak if he stays in the top 8. but I can't name one Dane, Swede, Aussie or Brit that you can guarantee will leave you talking about a meeting.

 

Sad times...

I said that a few years ago and how wrong i was, the talent available now is outstanding the series is in good hands.I have never agreed with the way the series has disrupted the leagues but as a product the GPseries looks pretty strong.

[BWitcher]

I said that a few years ago and how wrong i was, the talent available now is outstanding the series is in good hands.I have never agreed with the way the series has disrupted the leagues but as a product the GPseries looks pretty strong.

 

Fair play to you for admitting that too Sidney.

 

To be honest, although we disagreed at the time about some of the talent coming through I didn't expect it to be quite so fast.

 

Really not sure what the poster above you is talking about. Sayfutdinov, Ward and Woffinden are 3 of THE most exciting riders on a bike the sport has had in a while. That is what people pay to see, not interviews! Quite where he gets Kasprzak from as being one of the must see 'characters' I do not know!

[stratton]

 

 

Fair play to you for admitting that too Sidney.

 

To be honest, although we disagreed at the time about some of the talent coming through I didn't expect it to be quite so fast.

 

Really not sure what the poster above you is talking about. Sayfutdinov, Ward and Woffinden are 3 of THE most exciting riders on a bike the sport has had in a while. That is what people pay to see, not interviews! Quite where he gets Kasprzak from as being one of the must see 'characters' I do not know!

Witcher you generally get a couple come out the woodwork talent wise which none of us would of predicted The odd few that we overrate that falls by the wayside i don't know if it is me but are these top guys now to to busy to be characters.?Off from one meeting on to another pretty hectic now i believe we are blessed with quite some new talent different nationalities Millik had impressed me times look exciting at WC level.

[MattK]

Hopefully Nick Morris can decide if he is British, Australian or whatever and he can ride in the U21s next year.

 

It will be interesting to see how he goes against the competition you've mentioned above.

[T.N.T.]

Wolves have had a great record for over 20 years of finding an unheard of rider and seen them become World Class riders. Many have been Swedes like Peter Karlsson, Mikael Max and Fredrik Lindgren and now we are getting to witness the birth of the next Super Swede to lead Wolves in the future and at just 20 years of age, Jacob Thorssell is becoming a star in the making 12 months after struggling to complete four laps.

 

Elsewhere, Bartosz Zmarzlik, Patryk Dudek and a list of Poles and Russians seem to be the main breed of talents coming through.

 

 

Was impressed on Monday night by Zach Wajknecht riding the 250cc at Monmore. I was standing with a group of people including Sam Ermolenko and he asked who it was and then went over to speak to him. He was lowering his right arm in the turns and drifting too much. After a few words from Sam, he came out in his next ride and lifted his arm a little and was over a second faster.

[The White Knight]

He is a top man is Sam. He is always ready to help people with advice. :approve:

 

Actually - the same can be said for a lot of ex-Riders - one of the great things about our Sport.

[Bruiser McHuge]

i only watch speedway on TV these days and as far as riders go i would say that currently with the new big 3 in my book, Sayfutdinov, Woffinden and Ward i would say the future is in good hands....there are other good riders and more will break through but those 3 would keep me watching alone and create and keep bums on seats..

yes, Gollob and Hancock have been great servants but time does move on and the 3 i have mentioned are more than adequate successors and will keep interest going i think

[Ommer Mon]

I know I'm going to get shot down here but here goes anyway.

 

Apart from the odd reference to Woofy there hasn't been mention of the young English lads coming through.

 

I'm mainly thinking of Richie Worrall who has been a revelation this year and Rob Lambert, Adam Ellis and Max Clegg, all fairly new to the sport at NL level but all showing a hell of a lot of potentional.

 

Like many others I cant see where the next English GP rider is coming from over the next few years but there are some extremely promising kids starting out at the moment who deserve our support.

[Jonny the spud]

I know I'm going to get shot down here but here goes anyway.

 

Apart from the odd reference to Woofy there hasn't been mention of the young English lads coming through.

 

I'm mainly thinking of Richie Worrall who has been a revelation this year and Rob Lambert, Adam Ellis and Max Clegg, all fairly new to the sport at NL level but all showing a hell of a lot of potentional.

 

Like many others I cant see where the next English GP rider is coming from over the next few years but there are some extremely promising kids starting out at the moment who deserve our support.

 

It's a vicious circle. People bemoan the lack of English talent while sponsors throw money at foreigners.

 

Young Brits will get there if given a fraction of the backing that overseas riders get.

[The White Knight]

I know I'm going to get shot down here but here goes anyway.

 

Apart from the odd reference to Woofy there hasn't been mention of the young English lads coming through.

 

I'm mainly thinking of Richie Worrall who has been a revelation this year and Rob Lambert, Adam Ellis and Max Clegg, all fairly new to the sport at NL level but all showing a hell of a lot of potentional.

 

Like many others I cant see where the next English GP rider is coming from over the next few years but there are some extremely promising kids starting out at the moment who deserve our support.

 

No. You won't get shot down - because you are right.

[SCB]

Of the current bunch I can see Woffy, Emil and Ward having a virtual monopoly for the next few years 5 or 6 at least (beyond that you just can't see sure someone wont "do a Woffy"). I can't see Holder winning another title, I like him but I think he got lucky to some extent that he won the title in a bit of a void year, he'll more medals sure but not win it.

 

Obviously we have great hopes for young Lambert but don't forget David Hower was an 11.8 rider in the NL at 15, a 7.5 PL rider at 16 and a 5.5 EL rider at 17 and then what? Yet Bomber was more of a steady plodder for most of his career

[Woz01]

Of the current bunch I can see Woffy, Emil and Ward having a virtual monopoly for the next few years 5 or 6 at least (beyond that you just can't see sure someone wont "do a Woffy"). I can't see Holder winning another title, I like him but I think he got lucky to some extent that he won the title in a bit of a void year, he'll more medals sure but not win it.

 

Obviously we have great hopes for young Lambert but don't forget David Hower was an 11.8 rider in the NL at 15, a 7.5 PL rider at 16 and a 5.5 EL rider at 17 and then what? Yet Bomber was more of a steady plodder for most of his career

 

I read that Lambert was beating the likes of Smolinski, Schlein and others in Germany LAST year at 14. Hopefully i can get to Brandon to watch him ride tomorrow night.

[The White Knight]

Personally I rate Maciej Janowski. I reckon he could be a future World Champion with a bit more age and experience.

[CB252]

It's a vicious circle. People bemoan the lack of English talent while sponsors throw money at foreigners.

 

Young Brits will get there if given a fraction of the backing that overseas riders get.

 

It's also about ensuring that they have the opportunity as well as the backing.

 

The only tier currently working properly in this country is the National League. Back in the day there were no foreigners allowed in the second tier until Ronnie Russell got himself into a pickle at Rye House in the late 80's, and ever since then the flood gates have opened. Where's the opportunity to break into the second tier like Havelock, Loram, Dugard, Silver etc did as youngsters in the 80's?

 

Greenwood was mixing it at Sheffield last night, so the NL boys are capable of stepping up and filling these roles taken by Albin, Koppe, Anderson etc...

 

We need a three Brit minimum in the PL and all EL teams should be forced to have two Brits of any standard. We've got teams like Poole, Peterborough and Eastbourne (of all teams) tracking not a single Brit. It's nowt short of a disgrace.