Buddy Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 In the hope that there are some potential promoters out there, we've found a site that would appear to be almost ideal. The owner is happy to share with Speedway or to sell outright. The site is around 35 minutes from Newport and Cardiff and around 55 minutes from Swansea. Road connections are excellent. Facilities on the site are excellent. If anyone is interested please send me a private message and I'll provide you with full details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 In the hope that there are some potential promoters out there, we've found a site that would appear to be almost ideal. The owner is happy to share with Speedway or to sell outright. The site is around 35 minutes from Newport and Cardiff and around 55 minutes from Swansea. Road connections are excellent. Facilities on the site are excellent. If anyone is interested please send me a private message and I'll provide you with full details. Can anyone alert Steve Ribbons to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I'd estimate Ebbw Vale. Thats about them timings from Newport, Cardiff and Swansea. As mentioned on the thread about the track at the proposed race track (thats bene put on hold again now), the people of Ebbw Vale won't support a speedway team. They don't have any money. Newport failed, Cardiff is South Wales' only hope and the sport doesn't have a history there (not in living memory anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Steve Ribbons btw achieved something which no promoter had managed to do for a decade and something which everyone else said would NEVER happen - and that was to reopen Wimbledon Speedway. So I personaly think he deserves some respect rather than the constant jibes... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) Steve Ribbons btw achieved something which no promoter had managed to do for a decade and something which everyone else said would NEVER happen - and that was to reopen Wimbledon Speedway. So I personaly think he deserves some respect rather than the constant jibes... I seem to recall there was another person actively involved with the revival - the one South London Press had all it's dealings with. Edited August 10, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Hi SCB, It's not Ebbw Vale. It's probably better not to make the location of the site public until we see if there's any potential promoter interested, and then it'll be up to him/her what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) In most cases a speedway track has to be near chimney pots in order to be a success! I know a big % of Ipswich speedways regular crowd comes from a 5 mile radius of of Foxhall and I suspect most of these wouldn't go to speedway if they had to travel much further. I'm sure this would also be the case at many other tracks and this fact is often overlooked. This why I think if Norwich speedway ever reopened it wouldn't effect Ipswich, King's Lynn or Mildenhall as much as what some seem to think it would! Mildenhall speedway is one of the few exceptions but they work cause they are in a speedway hotbed with Peterborough, King's Lynn, Ipswich and Rye House speedways not far of, the Sunday raceday is easier to attract fans and some other big population areas without speedway tracks aren't that far like Norwich, Cambridge and the capital! Running League speedway at venues in South Wales away from large population areas has been tryed 10 years ago at Camarthen who struggled to get crowds over 200 and back in the 1960's at Neath who lasted one season then closed cause of low crowds in an era when speedway crowds in general were at least double what they are now on a poor day! I think League speedway in South Wales would work at Newport or Cardiff if ran properly and maybe at a push Swansea but the further into South Wales you go the less interest in speedway there is. How many Welsh people go to the GP at Cardiff? - not that many I'd of thought? ['Parsloes 1928 nearly') Steve Ribbons btw achieved something which no promoter had managed to do for a decade and something which everyone else said would NEVER happen - and that was to reopen Wimbledon Speedway. So I personaly think he deserves some respect rather than the constant jibes... Noone who knows their speedway denys that or that the bloke has the best intentions at heart, but hes also proven hes a notoriety obsessed pillock and an inept, totally unsuitable speedway promotor! That said if he does for my old team Norwich what he done for Wimbledon then I wouldn't complain! Edited August 10, 2013 by 25yearfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 ['Parsloes 1928 nearly') Steve Ribbons btw achieved something which no promoter had managed to do for a decade and something which everyone else said would NEVER happen - and that was to reopen Wimbledon Speedway. So I personaly think he deserves some respect rather than the constant jibes... No one who knows their speedway denys that or that the bloke has the best intentions at heart, but hes also proven hes a notoriety obsessed pillock and an inept, totally unsuitable speedway promotor! That said if he does for my old team Norwich what he done for Wimbledon then I wouldn't complain! What has Steve Ribbons achieved for Wimbledon? In its early revival days when Ribbons was in charge it nearly failed and it was only the excellent intervention led by Ian Perkin that the sport continued for as long as it did - and probably would still be there but for the attitude of the GRA and its associates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) In most cases a speedway track has to be near chimney pots in order to be a success! I know a big % of Ipswich speedways regular crowd comes from a 5 mile radius of of Foxhall and I suspect most of these wouldn't go to speedway if they had to travel much further. I'm sure this would also be the case at many other tracks and this fact is often overlooked. This why I think if Norwich speedway ever reopened it wouldn't effect Ipswich, King's Lynn or Mildenhall as much as what some seem to think it would! Mildenhall speedway is one of the few exceptions but they work cause they are in a speedway hotbed with Peterborough, King's Lynn, Ipswich and Rye House speedways not far of, the Sunday raceday is easier to attract fans and some other big population areas without speedway tracks aren't that far like Norwich, Cambridge and the capital! Running League speedway at venues in South Wales away from large population areas has been tryed 10 years ago at Camarthen who struggled to get crowds over 200 and back in the 1960's at Neath who lasted one season then closed cause of low crowds in an era when speedway crowds in general were at least double what they are now on a poor day! I think League speedway in South Wales would work at Newport or Cardiff if ran properly and maybe at a push Swansea but the further into South Wales you go the less interest in speedway there is. How many Welsh people go to the GP at Cardiff? - not that many I'd of thought? ['Parsloes 1928 nearly') Steve Ribbons btw achieved something which no promoter had managed to do for a decade and something which everyone else said would NEVER happen - and that was to reopen Wimbledon Speedway. So I personaly think he deserves some respect rather than the constant jibes... Noone who knows their speedway denys that or that the bloke has the best intentions at heart, but hes also proven hes a notoriety obsessed pillock and an inept, totally unsuitable speedway promotor! That said if he does for my old team Norwich what he done for Wimbledon then I wouldn't complain! One of the most nauseating aspects of online forums is the way very unpleasant personal attacks are made by people conveniently hiding behind false names. Have you ever actually met Steve? He's a decent, intelligent guy, straight in his dealings, which is probably why he's had so many problems dealing with the BSPA. I would far rather share his company than the vast majority of people I've met in speedway. It is incredibly difficult to discuss the true story of what happened at Wimbledon due to legal bullying by one of the participants. Indeed I cannot even state their name here for fear of causing Phil and his forum severe problems. Still, people will believe what they wish to believe and if nothing else this forum loves a hate figure to focus its sad little vendettas on whether it be promoters, riders or commentators, all conducted from the convenient safety of anonymity. To drag this back on-topic, if someone genuinely has a decent site for speedway in south Wales they should be encouraged and not met with this depressing example of forum members' needs to look important, or heaven forbid, even relevant. What the forum had said in response to the OP is: "Don't bother, we know better and it isn't worth it, and anyway someone we've got a problem with will probably bugger it up anyway. Now let's get the bile out for other matters". I do hope you're proud of yourselves. Now I hope the poison pen letters are going well.... Oh, just spotted a closing point - all is forgiven if Steve re-opens your club? It redefines moral bankruptcy.It's all okay as long as YOU benefit. Disgusting. Rob McCaffery Edited August 10, 2013 by rmc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) One of the most nauseating aspects of online forums is the way very unpleasant personal attacks are made by people conveniently hiding behind false names. Have you ever actually met Steve? He's a decent, intelligent guy, straight in his dealings, which is probably why he's had so many problems dealing with the BSPA. I would far rather share his company than the vast majority of people I've met in speedway. Absolutely Rob - the constant sniping attacks on Steve are indeed indicative of the bigotted and usually totally misinformed attitudes so prevalent on the BSF. How are you mate anyhow - very long time no see..? the one South London Press had all it's dealings with. Interesting that you mention the SLP there, gustix - I'm sure that fine publication wouldn't have made such a shocking grammatical error with that use of an apostrophe in the word "it's" in your posting! Edited August 10, 2013 by Parsloes 1928 nearly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC! Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) One of the most nauseating aspects of online forums is the way very unpleasant personal attacks are made by people conveniently hiding behind false names. Oh, just spotted a closing point - all is forgiven if Steve re-opens your club? It redefines moral bankruptcy.It's all okay as long as YOU benefit. Disgusting. Rob McCaffery Not above 'very unpleasant personal attacks' yourself though, probably one of the most personal and unpleasant attacks I have ever seen on here can no longer be found on the link below because it was removed as it was so vile... http://www.speedway-...ic=71240&st=765 Obviously it's not too nauseating if you put your name to the attack rather than using a false name? Edited August 10, 2013 by JC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) Absolutely Rob - the constant sniping attacks on Steve are indeed indicative of the bigotted and usually totally misinformed attitudes so prevalent on the BSF. How are you mate anyhow - very long time no see..? Interesting that you mention the SLP there, gustix - I'm sure that fine publication wouldn't have made such a shocking grammatical error with that use of an apostrophe in the word "it's" in your posting! Indeed the SLP would not. These things happen...! I am sure that an SLP sub-editor would have spotted the error and corrected it before publication. By the way, have you seen some of the beauties that come up on BBC TV in the story items that run across the bottom of news bulletins? Edited August 10, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) In the hope that there are some potential promoters out there, we've found a site that would appear to be almost ideal. The owner is happy to share with Speedway or to sell outright. The site is around 35 minutes from Newport and Cardiff and around 55 minutes from Swansea. Road connections are excellent. Facilities on the site are excellent. If anyone is interested please send me a private message and I'll provide you with full details. If you are hopeful of a serious response from a (potential) promoter, why would you post something as serious and positive on this forum?? I assume you have emailed/written/texted/tweeted(?) to the SCB/BSPA offices?! Edited August 11, 2013 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) If you are hopeful of a serious response from a (potential) promoter, why would you post something as serious and positive on this forum?? I assume you have emailed/written/texted/tweeted(?) to the SCB/BSPA offices?! I thought the BSF was the acknowledged 'voice of speedway'? Edited August 11, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 I thought the BSF was the acknowledged 'voice of speedway"? :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 I thought the BSF was the acknowledged 'voice of speedway'? No, that's just you gustix!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 In most cases a speedway track has to be near chimney pots in order to be a success! I know a big % of Ipswich speedways regular crowd comes from a 5 mile radius of of Foxhall and I suspect most of these wouldn't go to speedway if they had to travel much further. I'm sure this would also be the case at many other tracks and this fact is often overlooked. This why I think if Norwich speedway ever reopened it wouldn't effect Ipswich, King's Lynn or Mildenhall as much as what some seem to think it would! Mildenhall speedway is one of the few exceptions but they work cause they are in a speedway hotbed with Peterborough, King's Lynn, Ipswich and Rye House speedways not far of, the Sunday raceday is easier to attract fans and some other big population areas without speedway tracks aren't that far like Norwich, Cambridge and the capital! Running League speedway at venues in South Wales away from large population areas has been tryed 10 years ago at Camarthen who struggled to get crowds over 200 and back in the 1960's at Neath who lasted one season then closed cause of low crowds in an era when speedway crowds in general were at least double what they are now on a poor day! I think League speedway in South Wales would work at Newport or Cardiff if ran properly and maybe at a push Swansea but the further into South Wales you go the less interest in speedway there is. How many Welsh people go to the GP at Cardiff? - not that many I'd of thought? ['Parsloes 1928 nearly') Steve Ribbons btw achieved something which no promoter had managed to do for a decade and something which everyone else said would NEVER happen - and that was to reopen Wimbledon Speedway. So I personaly think he deserves some respect rather than the constant jibes... Noone who knows their speedway denys that or that the bloke has the best intentions at heart, but hes also proven hes a notoriety obsessed pillock and an inept, totally unsuitable speedway promotor! That said if he does for my old team Norwich what he done for Wimbledon then I wouldn't complain! .......With those qualifications i would have thought the opposite applies!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hi SCB, It's not Ebbw Vale. It's probably better not to make the location of the site public until we see if there's any potential promoter interested, and then it'll be up to him/her what to do. Hopefully where ever it is, someone looks into it and it can be made to work. Though sadly, as I said originally, I think Cardiff or Newport are the sports only hope in South Wales and Im not sure either of them would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) ['rmc' timestamp=1376133100' post='2327039] One of the most nauseating aspects of online forums is the way very unpleasant personal attacks are made by people conveniently hiding behind false names. Have you ever actually met Steve? He's a decent, intelligent guy, straight in his dealings, which is probably why he's had so many problems dealing with the BSPA. I would far rather share his company than the vast majority of people I've met in speedway. It is incredibly difficult to discuss the true story of what happened at Wimbledon due to legal bullying by one of the participants. Indeed I cannot even state their name here for fear of causing Phil and his forum severe problems. Still, people will believe what they wish to believe and if nothing else this forum loves a hate figure to focus its sad little vendettas on whether it be promoters, riders or commentators, all conducted from the convenient safety of anonymity. To drag this back on-topic, if someone genuinely has a decent site for speedway in south Wales they should be encouraged and not met with this depressing example of forum members' needs to look important, or heaven forbid, even relevant. What the forum had said in response to the OP is: "Don't bother, we know better and it isn't worth it, and anyway someone we've got a problem with will probably bugger it up anyway. Now let's get the bile out for other matters". I do hope you're proud of yourselves. Now I hope the poison pen letters are going well.... Oh, just spotted a closing point - all is forgiven if Steve re-opens your club? It redefines moral bankruptcy.It's all okay as long as YOU benefit. Disgusting. Rob McCaffery 25yearfan We've been here before! Yeah yeah, if it wasn't for the big bad BSPA and the rest of the world for that matter Steve Ribbons would have turned speedway into the biggest and best sport on the planet and he's be in the process of taking over the whole sporting world!!! I'm sure, in fact pretty certain Steve Ribbons is no monster, probably even an "OK" bloke (away from his pie in the sky dreams) but like has been said on a Norwich speedway thread on this forum he is his own worst enemy and his previous track record is one of a guy whos gallantly stuck his neck out and tryed promoting but unfortunately has failed. He seems to me to let his emotions get the better of him, getting carried away, and ends up biting more than he can chew and getting himself into silly situations which turns many people against him! I consider his "episode" at Wimbledon a success in that without Steve Ribbons the place wouldn't have reopened to speedway but he ultimately failed in the longer term cause he bit of more than he could chew due to over enthusiasm and relyed to much on a character he should have stayed well away from! Rye House was the same in that its likely that without the nomadic set up of which he was a part of, its likely Rye House wouldn't have returned to Hoddesdon and had to date 14 seasons of racing. But again Steve Ribbons wouldn't have been capable of doing what Len Silver has done since the 2000 Hoddesdon return! Like everyone else in speedway we greeted the potential return of speedweay to Norwich with much enthusiasm which was dampened big time when we saw who was behind the plans. My only hope now is that someone capable like Tony Mole takes on the Showground plans cause Ribbons certainly picked the best place in Norwich to stage speedway! Rob you can stick up for the guy as much as you like but facts are facts and you make yourself look silly by trying to defend the undefendable. We'll have to agree to disagree where the much maligned one is concerned but I've certainly nothing personal against the bloke and nor have the BSPA. Anyone with his track record wouldn't be allowed to promote simple as! As for forgiving him if he reopens Norwich speedway!!! 1, Its not going to happen cause he isn't capable! 2, Even if he could, the BSPA won't give him a licence! 3, Like I've said before, Steve Ribbons could have set the wheels in motion for persons capable to reopen Norwich speedway even if he isn't the one to actually do it. If this happens then I'll give him credit for it like I did in the Rye House and Wimbledon revivals! As for accusing me of trying to look important and relevant on this speedway in South Wales thread!!!!!!! You couldn't be further from the truth! If I was trying to look important I'd reveal who I was and everything I said was relevant. I suppose I'm similar to the much maligned Steve Ribbons in that I love the great sport of speedway and nothing gives me more pleasure than seeing more tracks opening up. I certainly don't want any speedway track to fail as you seem to imply! Again I've mentioned facts like Carmarthen and Neath failing as speedway centres. Is this correct or not? That said the Meakins family done something most people haven't managed in that they built a speedway track from scratch (Carmathen Dragons speedway) and ran League speedway at the venue for 3 seasons! I've also disclosed my own opinions (whether they are right or wrong we'll only know if League speedway ever returns to Wales) on the potential of speedway in Wales which isn't it what these forums are about? I think your articles in the backtrack magazine are excellent but you really spoil yourself by trying to defend the undefendable. Anybody making the promises about Norwich speedway like Steve Ribbons has done in the last 2 years and not delivering would have been ridiculed and not taken seriously! Lets hope Norwich speedway, a new track in South Wales, Oxford, Wimbledon, Bradford and many other tracks reopen and are run properly by persons who can do the job! Edited August 13, 2013 by 25yearfan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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