stemoc Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) This seems totally unfair to say Redcar are 6th at the cut of date so should take 6th spot. Their match to be run is at Rye where a 24 point defeat or more puts leicester in the play offs . Redcar lost by 20 in the KOC 2 weeks ago when they were lucky it was only 20 (why wasn't this ran as the PL match with the cut off looming). So to say redcar won't lose by 24 is debateable. If you go head to head Leicester took maximum 7 points off Redcar. If you delete Leicester last match so they have rode equal matches as Redcar . Leicester make the play offs. I await an announcment in next 24 hours Apparently Its been announced LK Redcar, Somerset and Newcastle Worky, Ipswich and Edinburgh Our play off fixtures (Comets) have now been confirmed Edited September 17, 2013 by stemoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 the only way it could be reversed is if edinburgh appealed the protest for the redcar match that got redcar an extra point. That won't happen as edinburgh have already admitted they got it wrong and accepted the punishment. there is no appeal and there is nothing leicester can do. i agree it is far from perfect but it is not going to change everyone knew when the cut off was and leicester knew when they went to newcastle it could come down to points difference. that is where it went wrong i'm afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvm Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 This seems totally unfair to say Redcar are 6th at the cut of date so should take 6th spot. Their match to be run is at Rye where a 24 point defeat or more puts leicester in the play offs . Redcar lost by 20 in the KOC 2 weeks ago when they were lucky it was only 20 (why wasn't this ran as the PL match with the cut off looming). So to say redcar won't lose by 24 is debateable. If you go head to head Leicester took maximum 7 points off Redcar. If you delete Leicester last match so they have rode equal matches as Redcar . Leicester make the play offs. I await an announcment in next 24 hours And you haven't mentioned alphabetically as well...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennylion Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 This can't be right. The idea of a league season is for each teams to ride the same amount of times against the same opposition. The idea to achieve a favourable result by not completing the season renders the whole league basis a farce. This would be the same in any sport, any league or for any team. Good luck to who ever is in it but this is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 http://www.workingtoncomets.co/news/article.asp?id=100198 edinburgh, workington, ipswich confirmed on workys web site. double header for edinburgh at derwent park on saturday. definitely up for that, please give us some good weather 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 This seems totally unfair to say Redcar are 6th at the cut of date so should take 6th spot. Their match to be run is at Rye where a 24 point defeat or more puts leicester in the play offs . Redcar lost by 20 in the KOC 2 weeks ago when they were lucky it was only 20 (why wasn't this ran as the PL match with the cut off looming). So to say redcar won't lose by 24 is debateable. If you go head to head Leicester took maximum 7 points off Redcar. If you delete Leicester last match so they have rode equal matches as Redcar . Leicester make the play offs. I await an announcment in next 24 hours The Witches lost by 30 in the KOcup at Worky and won in the league. They also lost by 20 in theLC at Somerset and last night only went down by 2 in the league. Leicester took a point at Rye - take that match off to truly even up the fixtures. What do all these comments have in common? They all mean nothing. The only fact is that Redcar are in the play offs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyfivetoes Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 There are probably those who feel the sad fate of Leicester in failing to qualify is the result of bad promotion. Of course it isn't, but don't let that stop the long-running, senseless campaign of ill-feeling against the people running the Lions by a small but vicious bloc of critics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Nice to see Workington scheduling all their matches by end of September (weather permitting). Let's hope the other teams follow and the last group match is on October 5th at the latest, and we end up with the final being staged in the second week of October, rather than struggling to get it in, in the final week of October. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 http://www.workingto...e.asp?id=100198 edinburgh, workington, ipswich confirmed on workys web site. double header for edinburgh at derwent park on saturday. definitely up for that, please give us some good weather im sure edinbrugh will be well up for this looks like workington will be having a nl guest for ashley morris who along with other decent nl riders will be at ryehouse for there riders championship and with chris mills poor form looks like workington will be very weak at reserve£23 for double header on a cold night might be too much for some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) This seems totally unfair to say Redcar are 6th at the cut of date so should take 6th spot. Their match to be run is at Rye where a 24 point defeat or more puts leicester in the play offs . Redcar lost by 20 in the KOC 2 weeks ago when they were lucky it was only 20 (why wasn't this ran as the PL match with the cut off looming). So to say redcar won't lose by 24 is debateable. If you go head to head Leicester took maximum 7 points off Redcar. If you delete Leicester last match so they have rode equal matches as Redcar . Leicester make the play offs. I await an announcment in next 24 hours Announcement on BSPA website now - they don't mess about and wait 24 hours! This seems totally unfair to say Redcar are 6th at the cut of date so should take 6th spot. Their match to be run is at Rye where a 24 point defeat or more puts leicester in the play offs . Redcar lost by 20 in the KOC 2 weeks ago when they were lucky it was only 20 (why wasn't this ran as the PL match with the cut off looming). So to say redcar won't lose by 24 is debateable. If you go head to head Leicester took maximum 7 points off Redcar. If you delete Leicester last match so they have rode equal matches as Redcar . Leicester make the play offs. I await an announcment in next 24 hours But remember Leicester took part in PL Pairs and Redcar didn't and Leicester took part in PL fours and Redcar didn't and Redcar currently have more English riders in their 1-7 than Leicester Anyone needing clarification I refer you to #249 Edited September 17, 2013 by northyorksbear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Nice to see Workington scheduling all their matches by end of September (weather permitting). Let's hope the other teams follow and the last group match is on October 5th at the latest, and we end up with the final being staged in the second week of October, rather than struggling to get it in, in the final week of October. All the best Rob That's not going to happen! Newcastle can't run on 22nd Sept (PLRC) and have already scheduled the League Cup Final 2nd leg against Ipswich for the 29th Sept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skthecat Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Didn't a prem team have a fixture last season on the same day as rhe plrc? Or was I dreaming.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) That's not going to happen! Newcastle can't run on 22nd Sept (PLRC) and have already scheduled the League Cup Final 2nd leg against Ipswich for the 29th Sept. I thought Newcastle could run on Mondays. Didn't they run this Monday? Last years's play-offs were nearly screwed up due to the Edinburgh v Workington match not being attempted to be held until October 19th (and was then rained off). It was far too late. It not only led to Workington's slight hope of qualifying being ended by an off-track decision, but it also pushed the final back a week until the very final weekend of the season. If the Scunthorpe track staff had not performed something of a miracle (they'd had heavy rain in the afternoon; the pits were flooded) to stage their leg on Monday October 29th (it had already been rained off on October 28th), the whole season could have ended in farce. I would hope there's a cut-off point in place this year for the group matches to avoid a similiar near disaster; Monday, October 7th would make a lot of sense. All the best Rob Edited September 17, 2013 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 This can't be right. The idea of a league season is for each teams to ride the same amount of times against the same opposition. The idea to achieve a favourable result by not completing the season renders the whole league basis a farce. This would be the same in any sport, any league or for any team. Good luck to who ever is in it but this is wrong. Try winning the league but having it count for nothing if you really want to get annoyed 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondsRock Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 If the Scunthorpe track staff had not performed something of a miracle (they'd had heavy rain in the afternoon; the pits were flooded) to stage their leg on Monday October 29th (it had already been rained off on October 28th), the whole season could have ended in farce. The fact that Workington could easily have qualified for the final but were denied thanks to the weather suggests to me that the season DID end in a farce. There is no cut off date. Rulebook has a cutoff for the NL playoffs as 15th September. Guessing the PL uses the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 from monarchs website The full list of fixtures for the group is: Saturday 21st September: Workington v Edinburgh Thursday 26th September: Ipswich v Workington Friday 27th September: Edinburgh v Workington Saturday 28th September: Workington v Ipswich Thursday 3rd October: Ipswich v Edinburgh Friday 4th October: Edinburgh v Ipswich weather permitting this will leave plenty time for the final. fingers crossed the ko cup final too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 from monarchs website The full list of fixtures for the group is: Saturday 21st September: Workington v Edinburgh Thursday 26th September: Ipswich v Workington Friday 27th September: Edinburgh v Workington Saturday 28th September: Workington v Ipswich Thursday 3rd October: Ipswich v Edinburgh Friday 4th October: Edinburgh v Ipswich weather permitting this will leave plenty time for the final. fingers crossed the ko cup final too Well done to those three getting themselves organised and fixtures agreed, pity the other group is not up to speed, sadly I suspect I know where the inefficiency may lay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 This can't be right. The idea of a league season is for each teams to ride the same amount of times against the same opposition. The idea to achieve a favourable result by not completing the season renders the whole league basis a farce. This would be the same in any sport, any league or for any team. Good luck to who ever is in it but this is wrong. CORRECT!!! But this is what you get when you have a pathetic Play Off System that, sometimes, ROBS the TRUE League Champions of their TITLE. (If Newcastle were to win it this year I would say EXACTLY the same). Somerset ARE League Champions - they were top of the League at the end of the Fixtures - why the hell should they have to go out and WIN the whole damned thing again. As I say - PATHETIC!!! It IS wrong, it is VERY wrong - but that is Speedway today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Central Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) This seems totally unfair to say Redcar are 6th at the cut of date so should take 6th spot. Their match to be run is at Rye where a 24 point defeat or more puts leicester in the play offs . Redcar lost by 20 in the KOC 2 weeks ago when they were lucky it was only 20 (why wasn't this ran as the PL match with the cut off looming). So to say redcar won't lose by 24 is debateable. If you go head to head Leicester took maximum 7 points off Redcar. If you delete Leicester last match so they have rode equal matches as Redcar . Leicester make the play offs. I await an announcment in next 24 hours To be fair it is a little academic as we really should have picked up more points to take us comfortably into the play off's. Lets look forward to some challenge matches and watch Redcar's pain from afar Couldn't be helped but Edberg and Nemo's injuries have cost us. Lets wait and see what happens in the winter although I do hope if we have a PL and EL we go PL, can't see it but, then again I've never supported an EL team to be honest so I may even like it. Edited September 17, 2013 by Great Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantodan Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Newcastle finished 3rd in the league and find ourselves in Somerset's Group: Somerset Newcastle Redcar Somerset obviously fancy their chances against the Diamonds, well it might just be a bad decision to pick us? or will the unfancied Redcar Bears cause the other two problems? What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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