TMW Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Would it help for the league champions to get a buy into the PO final then 2 - 7 go through a qualifying system for the other spot? That would also solve the Leicester / Redcar problem. I'm sure the top of the league clubs aren't looking forward to the PO's either as everything is won and lost on the toss of a coin really. How many top of the league teams have actually gone on to win the PO's anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Would it help for the league champions to get a buy into the PO final then 2 - 7 go through a qualifying system for the other spot? That would also solve the Leicester / Redcar problem . I'm sure the top of the league clubs aren't looking forward to the PO's either as everything is won and lost on the toss of a coin really. How many top of the league teams have actually gone on to win the PO's anyway? There isn't a Leicester/Redcar problem - on the date set by BSPA to determine qualifiers for the play offs, Redcar are in 6th place, by virtue of the criteria set by BSPA to determine teams level on league points. Granted the outstanding fixture is not ideal, but it isn't a problem! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) There isn't a Leicester/Redcar problem - on the date set by BSPA to determine qualifiers for the play offs, Redcar are in 6th place, by virtue of the criteria set by BSPA to determine teams level on league points. Granted the outstanding fixture is not ideal, but it isn't a problem! Â Yep I have put money on a Bear thinking that. Â Funny how it's only Bears coming out to defend it. You didn't actually get there fair and square though 1 meeting outstanding and 1 point awarded ummmmm!!!!! Edited September 15, 2013 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlead Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Yep I have put money on a Bear thinking that. Â Funny how it's only Bears coming out to defend it. You didn't actually get there fair and square though 1 meeting outstanding and 1 point awarded ummmmm!!!!! As I said before Leicester seem to think Redcar wouldn't have qualified against Rye House, I think they would have easily qualified. It was Edinburgh fielded an illegal team and we still beat them, when the r/r points were taken off then we got the extra point. Rules is rules, we've been on the wrong end of rules plenty of times, one just has to live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Yep I have put money on a Bear thinking that.  Funny how it's only Bears coming out to defend it. You didn't actually get there fair and square though 1 meeting outstanding and 1 point awarded ummmmm!!!!! You probably will be cynical and not believe me, but I would say the same thing if you reversed the teams and Leicester had qualified. As I said it's not ideal, but it is what it is - totally fair & square - Edinburgh had points taken off them and Rye House called fixtures off so get over it and move on. Yep I have put money on a Bear thinking that.  Funny how it's only Bears coming out to defend it. You didn't actually get there fair and square though 1 meeting outstanding and 1 point awarded ummmmm!!!!! Nothing to defend, but those posters pointing this out aswell appear to include amongst others Newcastle and Edinburgh - or did you mean northern clubs not just Bears!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 You probably will be cynical and not believe me, but I would say the same thing if you reversed the teams and Leicester had qualified. As I said it's not ideal, but it is what it is - totally fair & square - Edinburgh had points taken off them and Rye House called fixtures off so get over it and move on. Â I had actually moved on until other posters had continued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 I had actually moved on until other posters had continued Good, don't do any more u turns and don't laugh too loudly when we get totally tanked by the other two teams in the play offs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTFC LION Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 just out of interest, can any one direct me to a ruling where the cut off date is stated for PL fixtures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondsRock Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Would it help for the league champions to get a buy into the PO final then 2 - 7 go through a qualifying system for the other spot  Why not add the other half of the league in as well? Top 6 is too easy to qualify for, should be top 4 only.  There isn't a Leicester/Redcar problem  Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Yep I have put money on a Bear thinking that. Â Funny how it's only Bears coming out to defend it. You didn't actually get there fair and square though 1 meeting outstanding and 1 point awarded ummmmm!!!!! Â I support Newcastle - I HATE the 'Play Offs' - but , by the Rules as they stand Redcar ARE 6th. No arguments can change that. Just as I have to live with the 'Play Offs' - you will have to accept that you are out of them. Â Tough - but that is a FACT. Â Of course: Â NO STUPID PLAY OFFS - NO STUPID ARGUMENTS LIKE THIS!!! :rolleyes: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Diamond Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Another playoff being champions issue with not all meetings being finished, although Bears should have got there anyway but its the principle for Lions. The negatives just outweigth the so called positives, and damage sports credibility even more. Also still think playoffs should be separate for the few positves it provides, although probably just mess it up like young shield, promotion/relagation attempt. They dont even know what to do with league cup as it changes all the time never mind how to handle playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedflash Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Leicester / Redcar one club has completed all fixtures the other hasn't . Regardless of the points difference . It will be interesting to see the ruling on this from the BSPA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm not so sure this is done and dusted as some are making out. Â We will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm not so sure this is done and dusted as some are making out. Â We will see. Seems pretty clear cut to me-it`s not as if this outstanding match won`t be run before the 31st October.also it`s hardly Redcar`s fault that an AWAY match can`t be fitted in before the play-offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Seems pretty clear cut to me-it`s not as if this outstanding match won`t be run before the 31st October.also it`s hardly Redcar`s fault that an AWAY match can`t be fitted in before the play-offs. Â We'll see. Edited September 16, 2013 by nightshift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Lion Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Â Â I support Newcastle - I HATE the 'Play Offs' - but , by the Rules as they stand Redcar ARE 6th. No arguments can change that. Just as I have to live with the 'Play Offs' - you will have to accept that you are out of them. Â Tough - but that is a FACT. Â Of course: Â NO STUPID PLAY OFFS - NO STUPID ARGUMENTS LIKE THIS!!! :rolleyes: There'll always be something else to shout about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Well , I think all these arguments are going to be rather irrelevant .  Much as it pains me to say this I believe the team that finishes top will also win the playoffs and I think that team will be Somerset because of their overall strength in depth . Kjkkkjjjpopioiıiiiiiıiıiıiiıiiiııiooiiiiiıiıiúyttýyyyyyytyyyyyyyyyytyuuturerrytttytytttyyttryr   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Well , I think all these arguments are going to be rather irrelevant .  Much as it pains me to say this I believe the team that finishes top will also win the playoffs and I think that team will be Somerset because of their overall strength in depth . Kjkkkjjjpopioiıiiiiiıiıiıiiıiiiııiooiiiiiıiıiúyttýyyyyyytyyyyyyyyyytyuuturerrytttytytttyyttryr   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Well , I think all these arguments are going to be rather irrelevant .  Much as it pains me to say this I believe the team that finishes top will also win the playoffs and I think that team will be Somerset because of their overall strength in depth . Kjkkkjjjpopioiıiiiiiıiıiıiiıiiiııiooiiiiiıiıiúyttýyyyyyytyyyyyyyyyytyuuturerrytttytytttyyttryr   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travertine Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 Super Blue, you'd better take it easy on the wacky baccy, it's starting to show in your posts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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