Brooksy Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Agree here, the clubs who didn't get in the top six are all but forgot about too, the hype for the title has all but gone, as the weeks drag on, , the playoffs for the league and title should be more around September , and league cup/KOC could finish the the season with creating a bit more excitement for all clubs. I'm passed caring who actually wins now , most threads on here are about teams for next season. If, and its more than likely Somerset go through tomorrow tonight , Edinburgh wont run the 1st leg tomorrow so thats next Fri and squeezing the 2nd leg before the cut-off, crazy!!! Takes the buzz away imo Have to agree with you (think that's a first!). How a 'summer' sport that is completely at the mercy of the British weather can plan to run the climax of it's season in the last week of October is beyond me! Play-offs should be done and dusted by the end of September. If one of the aims of the play-offs is to be a potential money-spinner for the clubs involved, then they need to happen when the weather is likely to be more clement. Whilst I may be happy to stand on the back straight at the OTA on a cold, windy October night to see the mighty Rebels win the title, my wife, family and friends are far more likely to join me if it isn't so cold and damp! Edited October 16, 2013 by Barney Rebel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) This is fast becoming a joke, it even makes the EL look good Next year either change Play off structure to top 4 or start with league and only have the KO cup Agree here, the clubs who didn't get in the top six are all but forgot about too, the hype for the title has all but gone, as the weeks drag on, , the playoffs for the league and title should be more around September , and league cup/KOC could finish the the season with creating a bit more excitement for all clubs. I'm passed caring who actually wins now , most threads on here are about teams for next season. If, and its more than likely Somerset go through tomorrow tonight , Edinburgh wont run the 1st leg tomorrow so thats next Fri and squeezing the 2nd leg before the cut-off, crazy!!! Takes the buzz away imo Ahh me - the JOYS of the 'Play Offs'. :rolleyes: Edited October 16, 2013 by The White Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 With Somerset top of the table after the regular season are they entitled to the 2nd leg at home on their normal racenight ? Apart from the top team having first choice in selecting opponents in the 3 team mini leagues , the race day priority does not appear to be specified in the published regulations - 18B.4 PREMIER LEAGUE PLAY-OFFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Apart from the top team having first choice in selecting opponents in the 3 team mini leagues , the race day priority does not appear to be specified in the published regulations - 18B.4 PREMIER LEAGUE PLAY-OFFS. I think Somerset should get the 2nd leg for topping the table-after all race night seniority can go back years.As I said previously 25th/30th might be a possibility.What other night other than Friday can Edinburgh race-didn`t they have a Tuesday SKY match the other year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Ahh me - the JOYS of the 'Play Offs'. :rolleyes: great are'nt they ?,,, with the Diamonds out we'll just look forward to next year ;-) I think Somerset should get the 2nd leg for topping the table-after all race night seniority can go back years.As I said previously 25th/30th might be a possibility.What other night other than Friday can Edinburgh race-didn`t they have a Tuesday SKY match the other year ? I would say that the team that wins their group with the most points should have the choice, might that be Edinburgh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Antebellum Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Seems there are no problems with Somerset (if they qualify) having the second leg. With nothing in place to say otherwise, Edinburgh obviously have the right to hold their Friday race-night, which they will do, racing either Rebels or Newcastle on October 25th. If they are to race Newcastle, that will be on Sunday 27th -- if the Rebels, we would presume Wednesday 30th. It isn't rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john birch Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 This is fast becoming a joke, it even makes the EL look good Next year either change Play off structure to top 4 or start with league and only have the KO cup I'd have the top six but use the Swedish formula instead of this dogs breakfast. 3 Vs 6, 4 Vs 5, winners to face 1 and 2 in the semi's etc. Might generate more excitement and crowds too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I'd have the top six but use the Swedish formula instead of this dogs breakfast. 3 Vs 6, 4 Vs 5, winners to face 1 and 2 in the semi's etc. Might generate more excitement and crowds too. that's far too simple for speedway fans to comprehend,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Seems there are no problems with Somerset (if they qualify) having the second leg. With nothing in place to say otherwise, Edinburgh obviously have the right to hold their Friday race-night, which they will do, racing either Rebels or Newcastle on October 25th. If they are to race Newcastle, that will be on Sunday 27th -- if the Rebels, we would presume Wednesday 30th. It isn't rocket science. It isn`t rocket science !! are you having a laugh-you say Edinburgh can have Friday 25th for their leg-in that case what do you expect Somerset to do -race their home leg on friday 1st November. So you are happy for Somerset to forefit their racenight(again when they meet Edinburgh) to race on Wednesday.This time Edinburgh should go off-race night and somerset race 2nd leg friday 25th Edited October 16, 2013 by racers and royals 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Do these blokes actually do anything at these conferences they have?? Surely they can see this system is a farce??? .... Surely they get round a table and try to put the previous seasons failings right for the next season??.... Or is it like a masons p!ss up?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmon Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) I think Somerset should get the 2nd leg for topping the table-after all race night seniority can go back years.As I said previously 25th/30th might be a possibility.What other night other than Friday can Edinburgh race-didn`t they have a Tuesday SKY match the other year ? Edinburgh's 'off night' is Saturday for which they have planning permission. There is no planning permission for racing any other 'off night'.They have had a meeting on sky a few years back for which they had to get special permission.Having, in my opinion, gone against their planning permission a midweek meeting, against Ipswich, was held earlier this year. Edinburgh cannot continue to go against planning or they could be in serious trouble and endanger the future of speedway at Armadale.So as far as I can see the fixtures should either be Somerset 25th/Edinburgh 26th or Edinburgh 25th/Somerset 30th where one of the clubs use their approved 'off night'. Edited October 24, 2013 by edmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Can't see what you are all worried about plenty of Fridays free in November & December with a guarantee of nil clashes with other meetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Antebellum Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 It isn`t rocket science !! are you having a laugh-you say Edinburgh can have Friday 25th for their leg-in that case what do you expect Somerset to do -race their home leg on friday 1st November. So you are happy for Somerset to forefit their racenight(again when they meet Edinburgh) to race on Wednesday.This time Edinburgh should go off-race night and somerset race 2nd leg friday 25th Yes, I do expect Somerset to forfeit their race-night, because Edinburgh have seniority. It is absolutely set in stone since the dawn of time (OK, 1965) that the senior club gets the race-night. As I will be at the Rebels' leg, and as I will be supporting them in the tie (if they make it through tomorrow) you needn't go off at me for being right, you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Yes, I do expect Somerset to forfeit their race-night, because Edinburgh have seniority. It is absolutely set in stone since the dawn of time (OK, 1965) that the senior club gets the race-night. As I will be at the Rebels' leg, and as I will be supporting them in the tie (if they make it through tomorrow) you needn't go off at me for being right, you know. SURELY the fact that Somerset are Champions should change that. OR Do they get nothing at all for winning the League (Championship). :mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 SURELY the fact that Somerset are Champions should change that. OR Do they get nothing at all for winning the League (Championship). :mad: I take it you're not a fan of the playoffs??😜 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I take it you're not a fan of the playoffs?? Who ME!! Arson? :shock: :mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 SURELY the fact that Somerset are Champions should change that. OR Do they get nothing at all for winning the League (Championship). :mad: Suffering from amnesia ? To remind you, Rebels had first and third choices in selecting Play-Off Group opponents as reward for being League winners. Where is it stipulated that the League winners are automatically assigned seniority regarding race day, in the Championship Play Offs ? I would imagine Edinburgh would be agreeable to Somerset having the choice of holding either the first or second leg, but to expect them to also surrender their long established Friday race night is unreasonable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) SURELY the fact that Somerset are Champions should change that. OR Do they get nothing at all for winning the League (Championship). :mad: why should they, Edinburgh scored more points in their mini-league, surely that counts for something since it was all done from a level playing field/track/pool/snooker table or dartboard or whatever,,, if they can't agree, I would suggest that they both forfiet the final and put Newcastle and Redcar in, no argueing over this n that rubbish,,, IMO Edited October 17, 2013 by ruffdiamond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Just Toss a coin to decide the winners ,it will save a bit of time.Play off this late in the season make the usual mockery of the sport ,what's the chances of 2 decent nights weather and tracks that have not been affected by the weather at this time of year.Just look at Birmingham the other night.To have the highlight of the Season for the Teams involved so late in the season is farcical.A radical rethink is needed but I won't hold my breath. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 why should they, Edinburgh scored more points in their mini-league Yes but they weren't racing against Redcar or Newcastle, so what has that got to do with anything? (Lights blue touch paper and stands well back!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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