Brooksy Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Please forgive my ignorance, but can somebody explain the proposed play-off format for this season. Is it the same as last year? The official site's 'Play-Off Picture - How It Works' is slightly less than helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 18B.4 PREMIER LEAGUE PLAY-OFFS 18B.4.1 All Standard League Meeting Regulations are applicable. 18B.4.2 These Play-Offs will consist of 2 groups; one will incorporate the top 6 Teams from the Final League Table to determine the League Championship. 18B.4.3 The highest placed Team will have the 1st choice of Teams (but not the 2nd highest place) to join them in a Mini-League of 3 Teams, with the 2nd highest placed Team having the next choice and then alternating to achieve 2 Mini- leagues of 3 Teams each. 18B.4.4 Meetings are held on a home and away basis. 18B.4.5 The top Team in each Mini-League shall qualify for the Finals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooksy Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Cheers Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Somehow I dont think my team Sheffield need to worry about it Barney... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Everyone will be wanting Worky in their group after some of our away displays against the top teams. I think it will be Edinburgh and Ipswich as the top two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 so,,, looks like it has changed since last year,,, different teams, possibly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Wrong Thread Title. Â The 'ANNUAL SPEEDWAY CON' - it ought to be called now. :mad: Â League Winners over the Season lose League Title in the 'Annual Speedway Con' - WHAT A JOKE!!! :mad: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Wrong Thread Title. Â The 'ANNUAL SPEEDWAY CON' - it ought to be called now. :mad: Â League Winners over the Season lose League Title in the 'Annual Speedway Con' - WHAT A JOKE!!! :mad: Â Nobody 'loses' the title till they have won it, Ian. Playoffs are exciting, and in line with what other sports are also doing because of the interest that they create. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) Nobody 'loses' the title till they have won it, Ian. Playoffs are exciting, and in line with what other sports are also doing because of the interest that they create. Â Cost Newcastle the Title last Season Dave - I agree they are exciting - but - the 'Play Off' Champions were most definitely NOT the League Champions. A Champions Cup at the end of the Season would be just as exciting and the Team that won that Competition would be the Premier League Champions Cup Winner. A League Championship is won over a whole Season - to say anything else is illogical. Â Because other Sports do it does not mean that we have to demean OUR Sport by doing the same thing. Â Double Points, Play Offs - no the wonder folk are deserting Speedway in their droves. Edited August 9, 2013 by The White Knight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Im not saying I like it but the teams know exactly what the set up is before the league starts so its not a con 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Im not saying I like it but the teams know exactly what the set up is before the league starts so its not a con  Exactly - last season typifies why the play offs are so great, the League title went down to the very last race of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Cost Newcastle the Title last Season Dave - I agree they are exciting - but - the 'Play Off' Champions were most definitely NOT the League Champions. A Champions Cup at the end of the Season would be just as exciting and the Team that won that Competition would be the Premier League Champions Cup Winner. A League Championship is won over a whole Season - to say anything else is illogical. Â Because other Sports do it does not mean that we have to demean OUR Sport by doing the same thing. Â Double Points, Play Offs - no the wonder folk are deserting Speedway in their droves. Â Correction Newcastle cost themselves the title last year by Picking Somerset in their group and not Edinburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Im not saying I like it but the teams know exactly what the set up is before the league starts so its not a con  Yes it IS a Con Lioness. League Championships are won/decided over a whole Season and not in a tuppence halfpenny Play Off Competition. To say - they knew the Rules before the Season started is correct - BUT crucially - it doesn't make it RIGHT does it?  The Play Offs is all about money - NOT the Sport. The money could be made in a really good Cup Competition. Sport is about CREDIBILITY as much as anything else - Speedway is losing it's credibility rapidly as is evidenced by the drastically falling Crowds.  Correction Newcastle cost themselves the title last year by Picking Somerset in their group and not Edinburgh.  You are probably right - but that is NOT my point.  People who have read my Posts on this Forum KNOW that I have consistently railed against the Play Off System since long before Newcastle lost last year. I have been consistent in my opposition to:- Play Offs, Double Points and the GPs., and other things too. You may not agree with me, that is your privilege, but please believe me when I say that I passionately want Speedway to do well - I can't see that happening as long as unfairness exists in the way the Sport is run and the way the Results are massaged/contrived.  I hope I have explained my position and that you appreciate that it is not bitterness because Newcastle lost the Play Offs that I am against the System, I would be against it whoever Won/Lost - it just isn't RIGHT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Yes it IS a Con Lioness. Â no its not. Â I know you like to be pedantically correct and a con is defined as "persuade (someone) to do or believe something by lying to them:" Â There is no lying - it is NOT a con. Its a set up that you dont like but we know before the season starts its happening so its not a con 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondsRock Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) Exactly - last season typifies why the play offs are so great, the League title went down to the very last race of the season. Â Hmm... as there seems to be a push to cut costs in Speedway, how about reducing the expenses by removing the 24 leagu... qualifying meetings, and instead just hand the title over in a knockout tournament over the summer months. Less likelihood of a rain off, some teams will only need to stage 1 meeting a season - so very low costs, and as other teams are knocked out, more riders will become available - so no problem in finding guest's if they're required. Â Seems like a good idea if you ask me, and it's roughly on par with the current setup anyway - so no changes for the Dinosaurs to worry about. Â Edited August 10, 2013 by DiamondsRock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Nobody 'loses' the title till they have won it, Ian. Playoffs are exciting, and in line with what other sports are also doing because of the interest that they create. Â Precisely. Everyone knows the rules from day one. And the play-offs are more exiciting, contrast Glasgow's stroll to the title in 2011 with the 2012 Premier League title which Scunthorpe won on the final lap of the final race. Â TWK, I know you're old school. Under the old two points for a win and one point for a draw, the 2012 table would have been: Somerset 31, Scunthorpe 31,Workington 30, Leicester 30, Newcastle 29. Â All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Nobody 'loses' the title till they have won it, Ian. Playoffs are exciting, and in line with what other sports are also doing because of the interest that they create. Nonsense, other sports only do it because Sky tell them to. The biggest sport in the world does not use play offs to decide domestic lge champions, because its a farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) Correction Newcastle cost themselves the title last year by Picking Somerset in their group and not Edinburgh. would'nt agree with that,,, IMO, Newcastle cost themselves the title by 'not' replacing Steve Worrall', out with a broken leg, !!!its not like Somerset won it anyway,,, Edited August 10, 2013 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 So if Newcastle win the Play offs this year.... Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 So if Newcastle win the Play offs this year.... it will be 'just reward',,, undeservedly, of course,,, so why win all the time ? ,,, just try a bit harder when it matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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