topaz325 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Another good article in this weeks SS by Gary Pinchin which highlights most of the problems in British Speedway and gives a few ideas to put things right.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Another good article in this weeks SS by Gary Pinchin which highlights most of the problems in British Speedway and gives a few ideas to put things right.......... Good ideas are all very well...but sadly in most cases they are never acted upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 One of life's downsides is... people who have the brightest ideas never get to run a speedway club. Just because you have financial weight to buy a club, should this make you a suitable person to make rules and regulations, especially when those decisions will one way or other affect your own club of which you have money invested? Is it time to plan ahead, interview independent people who have no particular affinity to the sport, no financial sway, and to set up a party to look at changing speedway to being a simple sport once again, with rules, race formats and costs sustaining a total revamp. I stopped supporting any particular club long ago; more of my interest was for speedway as a whole package (as most supporters is, I suspect). We may argue on here about the rights and wrongs of the Golden Double etc, but while some throw internet punches at people who a chasing the love and what’s best for the same thing, the speedway house is still in flames and nearing a complete shell. BBC sports pundit Colin Murray was criticised this week for choosing one particular female athlete’s backside when asked to choose his perfect sporting body, section by section. In a way, my opinion is speedway should learn from its own past, revert to what served the sport best. Try to cut costs – do riders need the increased burden of dirt deflectors? Monitor racing with them and without them, see if the shale issue is still (or was ever) a problem. I recall one of the reasons they were initially introduced was to stop dust and shale from drifting to nearby houses. Exeter was a venue cited, and we all know what happened there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted August 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Doom and gloom but a change of font and things will be fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Doom and gloom but a change of font and things will be fine. Close your eyes for one brief moment and believe it isn't really happening. Or you could ask why the World's Leading Speedway Magazine is carrying stories and taking the liberty of asking questions about a thriving sport where there's standing room only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Close your eyes for one brief moment and believe it isn't really happening. Or you could ask why the World's Leading Speedway Magazine is carrying stories and taking the liberty of asking questions about a thriving sport where there's standing room only? I'm not sure what topaz is trying to say - what does he mean a change of font and things will be fine is he trying to be funny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I'm not sure what topaz is trying to say - what does he mean a change of font and things will be fine is he trying to be funny? Maybe it's this... SPEEDWAY ISN'T GONNA DIE... PLEASE TELL ME IT AINT SO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 What ideas? Anything that we haven't already discussed on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted August 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Sorry i spoke....all is well, Radetsky March anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 R.I.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 KELVIN Tatum will be taking up some of Gary's proposals regarding engines and ways of reducing riders' costs in his SS column next week ... some very interesting comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob tatum Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Brilliant post by MOXEY well done sir ,agree with all that what a shame that them above either don't listen or don't care too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted August 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Brilliant post by MOXEY well done sir ,agree with all that what a shame that them above either don't listen or don't care too. I care THATS why i posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 KELVIN Tatum will be taking up some of Gary's proposals regarding engines and ways of reducing riders' costs in his SS column next week ... some very interesting comments. no doubt certain engine tuner will be saying kelvin talks crap like he does on twitter everytime kelvin makes a point about bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) So where are all these moto x engines going to come from and what do riders do with the engines they've already got ? Edited August 2, 2013 by Jonny the spud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 no doubt certain engine tuner will be saying kelvin talks crap like he does on twitter everytime kelvin makes a point about bikes That the one making all the money per chance? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 EVERYTHING that Kelvin has talked about in his column next week has just been endorsed by Marcel Gerhard, a former World Champion on the longtrack, top engine tuner for much more than just speedway and someone who has actually built speedway bikes. Of course, he could also be talking crap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 So where are all these moto x engines going to come from and what do riders do with the engines they've already got ? Pinchin hasn't thought that one through, just as he hasn't thought most of his half-baked ides through, and relies on sweeping generalisations that show an ignorance of the sport that really is a disgrace for someone that purports to be a professional motorcycle journalist. For instance Pinchin, who has never actually worked on a speedway track in his life tells us that track prep is left to the last minute. What a complete idiot. If he were to turn up at Monmore , Kings Lynn, Arlington, Lakeside and many others 8 hours before start time he would find track curators like Doc Bridgett, Gerald Richter, Bob Dugard, Buster Chapman and others were well under way already. Pinchin then compounds his ignorance of the sport by saying put more dirt down. If you put more dirt down nothing will happen until you put some water with it. The skill is getting the right mix of dirt and water, but that's where the weather comes in . if there is a risk of rain the track has to be prepared differently or if there is an unexpected downpour or if expected rain passes you by it can mess up the plans for track prep. Really Pinchin ought to speak to the people who do the job before making sweeping generalisations as if he is an expert himself Pinchin also talks about handing the promotion to a marketing company as if he is the only one that has thought of the idea but unfortunately this professional journalist has made no enquiries as to what it would cost and whether it would be cost effective and what if any effect it would have on admission charges. It is easy the throw ideas with looking at the economics of it. If he could come up with some figures it could be an interesting point but unless and until he looks at the cost it is a non point. He makes other points that are nothing new and have all been churned out on this forum from time to time by the ordinary fans, some ideas are good, some not so good, but nothing new and more importantly nothing costed. The more pressing issue is what sort of a league we build next year that stops promotions loosing vast sums of money and controls costs, providing a regular league programme (not like the stop-start EL we had this year) while still providing a decent standard of racing. If that can be worked out the sport will be in a better state than it will be by people like Pinchin getting upset because the music is not to his taste or the Burger Bar that is not under the control of the promoters is rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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