ekimba Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 What an incredible pointless comment! Unless there's going to be a deeper, more meaningful one now that you have had some responses? # I have noticed that you seem to have a problem understanding humour / sarcasm, maybe you should refrain from posting until you read the post a few times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 # I have noticed that you seem to have a problem understanding humour / sarcasm, maybe you should refrain from posting until you read the post a few times I guess some people think irony is like Metaly or tinny. Gustix let me try and make you understand. I would pay a lot of Money to see the likes of Mr Lee race again. He was a total joy to watch around Saddlbow, but we never got enough of him. A fair Number of times he failed to turn up on a Saturday to ride. I think many can guess at the reason. He had had it all in Speedway terms, and tossed the lot away. He took a certain route in his life, but as a Speedway rider, he was the real dogs swingers. Like i said, I just felt cheated I didnt get more of him. Then again when something is that good, you always want more of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 He took Drugs - that is illegal and wrong. END OF!!! Oh - and since when do you get Fined up for drinking a couple of pints? I don't recall the same level of outrage when your mate BFD was banged up for drug dealing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adder Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 What a load of sanctimonious houlier-than-thou tripe some people spout. Where does it say that his 'life is in tatters' or that he is 'down' etc? The bloke has been caught with a small amount of recreational drugs for his own personal use. The fact that this is even a story is a sad indictment on today's society. I guess it must have been a slow news day in Bury. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) I guess some people think irony is like Metaly or tinny. Gustix let me try and make you understand. I would pay a lot of Money to see the likes of Mr Lee race again. He was a total joy to watch around Saddlbow, but we never got enough of him. A fair Number of times he failed to turn up on a Saturday to ride. I think many can guess at the reason. He had had it all in Speedway terms, and tossed the lot away. He took a certain route in his life, but as a Speedway rider, he was the real dogs swingers. Like i said, I just felt cheated I didnt get more of him. Then again when something is that good, you always want more of it. Feel the same 'semion' i see alot of him for King,s Lynn,Poole, and endless England and individual meetings a total pleasure.GRW would know more than me because he see Mike develope and see him ride week in week out.When i have met him years ago seemed like a real nice guy and other speedway people i know none of them have a bad word to say but you are right we were ROBBED. Edited July 26, 2013 by sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Must be one of the things on the local police's "to do" list. Every so often raid and search Mike Lee's house and get an easy bust. Pointless. If what you say is true,then the very fact that this has lead to not only a court case but a conviction means it is anything other than pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 If what you say is true,then the very fact that this has lead to not only a court case but a conviction means it is anything other than pointless. Dont worry about the pensioner being mugged or other violent crime just worry about something as minor as this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Im sure many of us have had relationship break ups,and other issues in our private lives,yet we know its wrong to turn to drugs to find some kind of solice.Giving his history,it appears Mr Lee doesnt learn from his past. .............we turn up and watch speedway ...........which is worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Being illegal doesn't make it wrong Go on.... explain that one to me again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I don't recall the same level of outrage when your mate BFD was banged up for drug dealing? I don't recall too many people defending HIM either. Or is it one Law for a Supporter and one Law for a Rider. I did NOT support BFD - personally I think he was bloody stupid - I have NOT condemned Michael Lee either if you bother to read the whole Thread. :rolleyes: See Post No. 12 on the first Page of this Thread. The Post you Quoted was answering someone else's point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Go on.... explain that one to me again. It's pretty simple. A guy is at home on a Friday evening after a hard week at work, he smokes some weed. How is that wrong? And "Because it's the law" is not a valid answer as the discussion now is, "is the law wrong". If they bring in a law that says, "TheReturn has to give everything he owns to SCB" is it right? While the law is in the majority of cases a very good guide, it's not perfect. What about the 15 years and 364 day old girl having sex with the 16 year and 1 day old boy? They've just broken the law, is it wrong? What about the laws that were broken in the past but the law has subsequently been changed/removed and that person is subsequnetly given a pardon? Was it right then? Or wrong now? Or did it change from being right to wrong just because some arbiatary people changed the law? Edited July 26, 2013 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Is the poster's name supposed to be Heathen1, or, Heath Hen1? This is surely the most important question here. Edited July 26, 2013 by BritPete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 It's pretty simple. A guy is at home on a Friday evening after a hard week at work, he smokes some weed. How is that wrong? And "Because it's the law" is not a valid answer as the discussion now is, "is the law wrong". If they bring in a law that says, "TheReturn has to give everything he owns to SCB" is it right? While the law is in the majority of cases a very good guide, it's not perfect. What about the 15 years and 364 day old girl having sex with the 16 year and 1 day old boy? They've just broken the law, is it wrong? What about the laws that were broken in the past but the law has subsequently been changed/removed and that person is subsequnetly given a pardon? Was it right then? Or wrong now? Or did it change from being right to wrong just because some arbiatary people changed the law? It's ever so simple really in BOTH Scenarios. They are BOTH currently AGAINST THE LAW and yes - they are WRONG. Until the Law is changed it will stay that way. Personally I hope they never change the Law regarding both. I know you will probably say that I am an old fuddy duddy - but - it is my belief that the Law is right most of the time and that it is definitely right in these instances. This is only MY opinion - others may differ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGT Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Headline news: Worldwide Full Stop Shortage Hits Speedway Forum. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 At Mildenhall (and probably elsewhere) he was looked upon as someone who didn't hide from his past, and who turned his life around. No matter what anyone thinks to the seriousness of his crime, he can never be looked on in the same way again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 It's pretty simple. A guy is at home on a Friday evening after a hard week at work, he smokes some weed. How is that wrong? And "Because it's the law" is not a valid answer as the discussion now is, "is the law wrong". If they bring in a law that says, "TheReturn has to give everything he owns to SCB" is it right? While the law is in the majority of cases a very good guide, it's not perfect. What about the 15 years and 364 day old girl having sex with the 16 year and 1 day old boy? They've just broken the law, is it wrong? What about the laws that were broken in the past but the law has subsequently been changed/removed and that person is subsequnetly given a pardon? Was it right then? Or wrong now? Or did it change from being right to wrong just because some arbiatary people changed the law? So does that make it ok for a rider to have his recreational got home after the match joint, followed by an amphetamine or two to keep him going so as he can see to his bike in readiness for the next evening's match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 So does that make it ok for a rider to have his recreational got home after the match joint, followed by an amphetamine or two to keep him going so as he can see to his bike in readiness for the next evening's match?Grey area. Probably not as it could potentially lead to the bike being unsafe I guess. But then how is it any different to some amateur having a go? Or someone playing about with something they're not comfortable with? Or a rider being rushed in the pits by the 2 minutes to get his bike back together and forgetting to do something important (tighten some but/bolt to stop something falling apart) Drinking is legal and it would be wrong for a rider to have a few pints and do the same. I just don't see how a bag of weed = someones life falling apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Grey area. Probably not as it could potentially lead to the bike being unsafe I guess. But then how is it any different to some amateur having a go? Or someone playing about with something they're not comfortable with? Or a rider being rushed in the pits by the 2 minutes to get his bike back together and forgetting to do something important (tighten some but/bolt to stop something falling apart) Drinking is legal and it would be wrong for a rider to have a few pints and do the same. I just don't see how a bag of weed = someones life falling apart. Pleased to see you included the few pints there. We all know that the effects of the beer will wear off quite shortly and, by the next evening the rider should be ok riding. Not so the weed, that stays in the system a considerable while longer - up to seven days, if I remember what a fellow forumite (working in the offender system on the drug side of things) told me. Maybe that's why the law is as it is, because of the length of time the stuff stays in your system and impairs reactions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Is the poster's name supposed to be Heathen1, or, Heath Hen1? This is surely the most important question here. Good point...or is Heat Hen1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Dont worry about the pensioner being mugged or other violent crime just worry about something as minor as this. Muggers,people involved in drugs are both of the criminal fraternity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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