Brujas Espanolas Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 No apology to the injured party?? The injured party was the referee. He had gone to do a job. He acted decisively in respect of the initial incident. Unfortunately, whether due to a lack of intellectual capacity or anger management issues, Cook refused to accept what the referee was trying to tell him. Instead of behaving as most sensible people would in those circumstances, in a magnanimous contrite manner, the yobo in Cook came out and a torrent of foul abuse and criminal damage ensued. So this weaselly statement he issued should of at least included an unreserved apology to the referee that had suffer his loutish behaviour. Fortunately the referee has acted impeccably. Both riders were fined for their part in the initial incident. Apart from removing him from the meeting, the referee did not impose further sanctions on Cook. This gives the authorities the opportunity to impose further sanctions against the miscreant Cook. A ban until the end of the season may provide him with the opportunity to reflect on his anger management issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Fishing trip's on I see! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 The injured party was the referee. He had gone to do a job. He acted decisively in respect of the initial incident. Unfortunately, whether due to a lack of intellectual capacity or anger management issues, Cook refused to accept what the referee was trying to tell him. Instead of behaving as most sensible people would in those circumstances, in a magnanimous contrite manner, the yobo in Cook came out and a torrent of foul abuse and criminal damage ensued. So this weaselly statement he issued should of at least included an unreserved apology to the referee that had suffer his loutish behaviour. Fortunately the referee has acted impeccably. Both riders were fined for their part in the initial incident. Apart from removing him from the meeting, the referee did not impose further sanctions on Cook. This gives the authorities the opportunity to impose further sanctions against the miscreant Cook. A ban until the end of the season may provide him with the opportunity to reflect on his anger management issues. And when they grant your visa application back to your own little world, be sure to catch the first available flight!!! Cook reacted to provocation like any of us would. I'm not saying it's right, Its not. And if he's reacted sufficiently angry then the ref has done the right thing to stop anything worse possibly happening on the track. If this had have been rugby, both would've been removed from the meeting which is what should have happened here. Even Ipswich fans we talked to last night said that he's had a situation coming to him like this for a while - so when you're own are saying it, then it tells a story. Cook has issued an apology to all concerned apart from one person which I'm pleased about. Now lets see if Barker can string two words together and issue something of his own? I doubt it... Truth hurts doesn't it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Cook has issued an apology to all concerned apart from one person which I'm pleased about. What about an apology to the Referee after the abuse he got, that makes two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) What about an apology to the Referee after the abuse he got, that makes two. What did he say to the Ref? What did Barker say to the Ref? Note: Facts only please! Edited July 26, 2013 by Nutz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 exactly. Im an Ipswich fan and he is dislike thats obvious so why the heck did Middlo pick him? Tai has even gone on Twitter to congratulate Cook! Yet again poor decision making from Middlo .........Cant be true I have just read on here that Tai is a reformed character and that Cookie should emulate him...........that is a classic :rofl: On the second point Not really on thread but I'm afraid with each incident Middlo seems to be a bigger part of the problem he has to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Got to feel sorry for Cook for falling for Barkers usual verbal abuse. I must say I wouldn't put up with it and if I got fined £300 for standing up for myself I might lose it, especially if I'd just finish riding a bike with no breaks at 70 mph, adrenaline rush and all. The Aces connection wouldn't have helped as I've seen riders argue with the ref on Sky and smash up track property (usually the 'phone) but not been ejected from the meeting. Was he wearing his Aces kevlars by chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Can tell that Monarchs management have urged him to say this.... and move on, quietly and quickly. So what if they have, bit of responsibility in the sport long overdue. Having done that a wise policy would be least said soonest mended. That's for all parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Now lets see if Barker can string two words together and issue something of his own? I doubt it... How do you know, do you know him personally! Note: Facts only please! Edited July 26, 2013 by Bash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejam Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 What about an apology to the Referee after the abuse he got, that makes two. Can Foxhall stadium have their heater back too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bagpuss Posted July 26, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Whatever anyone thinks of Barker, and I don't for one minute think he is any sort of angel, I'm afraid Cook has let himself and his club/country down pretty badly over the last week or so. As one of our best prospects its very disappointing to see, hopefully he will learn from being chucked out of the meeting last night and sort himself out. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 You must have missed that both of them were fined for the altercation in the pits. Cook was ejected from the meeting for what occured behind closed doors in a meeting with the ref (and others). Wrong. Cook was officially removed from the meeting for ungentlemanly and violent conduct as was announced over the tannoy. So unless he assaulted the referee, it must've been for the altercation in the pits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemphizzx Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I found this whole episode so very sad for the sport i love i have met both people involved found one pleasant and kind the other a dickhead - and i am guessing its not the way round people would think Right from the childish tweets after the WC qualifying round thru to this ..its pathetic so many people say ahh it happens a lot .. well it shouldnt happen a lot ..and doesnt happen a lot in other sports i really fear for speedway in this country if this is the level of proffessionalism and intelligence some of our your riders have ..Dakota north and some others tweets are hugely embarassing and bring the sport into disrepute i have long thought speedway has a real issue with some people riders and fans who seem to treat it as a war .. the reality is league speedway in this country is anything but teams made up of guest riders from other clubs riding at 70% most of the time and lots of kids (the future) watch it GP speedway is another level completely i find it so sad we seems to have riders who have achieved nothing in this sport at the top level refer to themselves as star ! sad pathetic and embarassing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Wrong. Cook was officially removed from the meeting for ungentlemanly and violent conduct as was announced over the tannoy. So unless he assaulted the referee, it must've been for the altercation in the pits. I dont know one way or the other Nutz but I interpret that differently - if as has been said he tore a heater off the wall or did any other material damage and swore vehemently and the referee in the closed doors meeting I dont see how you say thats not ungentlemanly and violent - I dont think you have to actually assault a person to be classed as violent. Sounds ungentlemanly and violent to me even though it wasnt on track, it was still within the confines of the meeting surely? Maybe Im wrong but thats just my interpretation 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brujas Espanolas Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) And when they grant your visa application back to your own little world, be sure to catch the first available flight!!! Cook reacted to provocation like any of us would. I'm not saying it's right, Its not. And if he's reacted sufficiently angry then the ref has done the right thing to stop anything worse possibly happening on the track. If this had have been rugby, both would've been removed from the meeting which is what should have happened here. Even Ipswich fans we talked to last night said that he's had a situation coming to him like this for a while - so when you're own are saying it, then it tells a story. Cook has issued an apology to all concerned apart from one person which I'm pleased about. Now lets see if Barker can string two words together and issue something of his own? I doubt it... Truth hurts doesn't it. What did he say to the Ref? What did Barker say to the Ref? Note: Facts only please! Facts are difficult as there were only three people in the room where the incident occurred. However from those that I have spoken to who were in earshot, suggest it was Cook's voice was the one the could be heard. Not sure exactly what was said....although he was "emotional" suggesting he was having no LUCK as a result of NatWest being unhelpful bunch of BANKERS, and was off tho relax on the Cam in a PUNT. Of course it could all be a wicked conspiracy cooked (excuse the pun) up between Messrs Barker & Holt to discredit Cook. The facts are that the referee dealt with the initial incident, and correctly punished both riders accordingly. Now if Cook had an IQ slightly above that of a retarded hedgehog, he would have listened to what the referee had to say. The appropriate response would have been "Yes Sir", "Sorry Sir", "Won't happen again Sir". Instead he goes off on one, and gets himself disqualified from the meeting. Now Barker (whom I'm no particular fan of) at least had the good sense to keep his gob shut, and as result his team are now in the final in convincing style. To draw a simple analogy let's say you get involved in an altercation outside a pub. A police officer witnesses the whole affair, and pulls you and the other party aside for "a natter". He says he going to issue a fixed penalty notice and caution both of you. At that news you go off on start swearing and in a fit of temper throw a dustbin to the ground. Can you really be surprised that the other fella is off home, whilst you spend the night in the cells? I've no idea if Cook is an imbecile or has anger management issues. Either way an individual who can't control his behaviour, is hardly the sort of bloke you want in charge of a 500cc motorcycle with no brakes in the company of others. Hopefully a suspension until the end of the season will allow him to reflect on his issues / demons. Wrong. Cook was officially removed from the meeting for ungentlemanly and violent conduct as was announced over the tannoy. So unless he assaulted the referee, it must've been for the altercation in the pits. Swearing and pulling a heater off the wall can easily be described (by most right thinking people anyway) as ungentlemanly and violent conduct. Edited July 26, 2013 by Brujas Espanolas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Wrong. Cook was officially removed from the meeting for ungentlemanly and violent conduct as was announced over the tannoy. So unless he assaulted the referee, it must've been for the altercation in the pits. Wrong, Cook wouldn't take the punishment metered to him, ie £300 fine which they both got. Barker accepted this, Cook didn't then, proceeded to carry out criminal damage. Fact!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I found this whole episode so very sad for the sport i loveSad? It's brilliant! Everyone loves a bit of agro. I bet you're one of the people who bemoans the lack of characters left in the sport. The sport should be using this to sell itself not the usual sweep it under the carpet and a few people on the internet get all high and mighty about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Whilst Cook has issued a statement on his own site, Barker has tweeted: @benbarker88: Everyone can hear my version of the events in The Sun newspaper tomorrow #TheSun He really makes a pratt of himself. How does he feel he is going to help speedway by going to a seedy newspaper thats always full of lies and letting everybody know how violent our family sport can be? And he wonders why hes so disliked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemphizzx Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Sad? It's brilliant! Everyone loves a bit of agro. I bet you're one of the people who bemoans the lack of characters left in the sport. The sport should be using this to sell itself not the usual sweep it under the carpet and a few people on the internet get all high and mighty about it! Its pathetic and if think a couple of kids slagging each other off on twitter and then punching someone on the back of the head is good for the sport fair enough People go to watch speedway i love characters in sport ..i like them to actually have achieved something in the sport or have something to back up this character .. not famous or being a character simply for being idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw40 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Or maybe the sun have offered to pay his fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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