Newcastle Diamonds Vs Somerset Rebels 21st July Pl 6.30

[NJC71]

Another twist in this rather crazy season but not a surprising one. Always thought this would be tough for the Diamonds without Henry and so it proved. That said I thought we again threw this one away. Richie too keen to gate against Doyle twice moved, the second time through the tapes with unbelievably his replacement Lewis doing exactly the same thing. That 5-1 to Somerset was crucial.

 

We then dropped, at least on the face of it, an absolute clanger in not replacing Schramm with Kerr in heat 14. I feel sure Kerr would have beaten both the poor Davies and Blackbird giving us a match winning 5-1. I just cannot understand why that change wasn’t made.

At least Richie made amends with a storming win in heat 15.

 

We are generally brilliant away but vulnerable at home with not enough riders winning heats to back up Richie. Ludo finished well but had another poor home night while Robbo I’m afraid doesn’t gate well enough to ride at number 1.

Edited July 21, 2013 by NJC71

[diamond_ren]

We surely can't carry on using R/R until the end of the season? I'd much rather sign someone to bring us back to a 7 man team

[Arson fire]

Another twist in this rather crazy season but not a surprising one. Always thought this would be tough for the Diamonds without Henry and so it proved. That said I thought we again threw this one away. Richie too keen to gate against Doyle twice moved, the second time through the tapes with unbelievably his replacement Lewis doing exactly the same thing. That 5-1 to Somerset was crucial.

 

We then dropped, at least on the face of it, an absolute clanger in not replacing Schramm with Kerr in heat 14. I feel sure Kerr would have beaten both the poor Davies and Blackbird giving us a match winning 5-1. I just cannot understand why that change wasn’t made.

At least Richie made amends with a storming win in heat 15.

 

We are generally brilliant away but vulnerable at home with not enough riders winning heats to back up Richie. Ludo finished well but had another poor home night while Robbo I’m afraid doesn’t gate well enough to ride at number 1.

george is one of the most experienced there is but keeps doing this and it's costing us points IMO.... We need to be more ruthless in these situations, any other team manager would be....The way robbo is dropping points he will be 3rd in our averages before long and not at number one.... Meaning everyone could take a rr, but it's asking for trouble if we get another injury or someone has an off night.

[The White Knight]

I could not believe the decision to leave Schramm in Heat 14. I rarely, if ever criticise George on his Team Management because, I believe, he is VERY good at it. Tonight however I think he made a mistake - I too, in common with others on here, would have had Lewis Kerr out in Schramm's place. Nobody can say the Chris did not try hard - he did - too hard probably.

 

Exciting Meeting though - Good to see an Elite? League Number One riding as a Premier League Number One. Interesting 'ONE' that.

Edited July 21, 2013 by The White Knight

[Supersteady1984]

Good result if your a comets fan 😃

[Lord Lucan]

Exactly Mike, which is why "2pts" is all I can allow at this juncture!!!

Although, 1pt is even better!!!

[jackofdiamonds]

I like much of the crowd had pencilled Lewis in heat 14. It will be interesting to read Georges' programme notes next week. The enigma that is Ludvig Lindgren appeared again. After a terrific performance at Edinburgh, he returned to novice mode. Too slick for Robbo.

Somerset were well served by Doyle, Morris and Grajczonek, they certainly deserved a point, Diamonds gifted them the other.

[mike7164]

Although, 1pt is even better!!!

Depends on your rule book or mine although IMO we blew it tonight and we will continue to do so until we sign a 7th rider (or till Henry is fit to return) and we get a propper number one, which we have needed all season long.

 

Thats not having a go at Stuy as I like the guy a hero of mine, however I think some of his low scores of late is happening because IMO he is trying to hard and if he keeps doing it I fear he will come a nasty cropper on himself, so if you read this Stuy please ease up abit and stay safe!

 

As for the meeting well done both sides but IMO Somerset had the edge throughout the meeting, and may I also add my thoughts of the heat 14 reserves and I go against a lot of posters on here and I'm not Georges biggest fan regarding him as team manager, but I agreed with him leaving Chris in over Lewis, as in Lewis's last outing judged he broke the tapes, and although Ludvig won the heat before I would of maybe made a case for putting in both reserves as Ludvig had not done a lot before that race.

 

Just an opinion though.

[Lord Lucan]

Depends on your rule book or mine although IMO we blew it tonight and we will continue to do so until we sign a 7th rider (or till Henry is fit to return) and we get a propper number one, which we have needed all season long.

 

Thats not having a go at Stuy as I like the guy a hero of mine, however I think some of his low scores of late is happening because IMO he is trying to hard and if he keeps doing it I fear he will come a nasty cropper on himself, so if you read this Stuy please ease up abit and stay safe!

 

As for the meeting well done both sides but IMO Somerset had the edge throughout the meeting, and may I also add my thoughts of the heat 14 reserves and I go against a lot of posters on here and I'm not Georges biggest fan regarding him as team manager, but I agreed with him leaving Chris in over Lewis, as in Lewis's last outing judged he broke the tapes, and although Ludvig won the heat before I would of maybe made a case for putting in both reserves as Ludvig had not done a lot before that race.

 

Just an opinion though.

Judging by your opinion Mike I would suggest that the only team out of this weekends matches whom are happiest would be Somerset!! If Kyle Newman had not packed up at our place Saturday the Reb's would have had two off us as well? Wasn't expecting Robbo to turn in such a low score, normally one of your most reliable scorers tho if he was carrying an injury then that wouldn't have helped matter's, for what it's worth I like to see Robbo trying too hard, but only at our place, really flies round it, plenty of room!! Anyway it could have been worse, you could have lost as well!! All the Best.

[dantodan]

I don't mind so much losing league points if I have watched a great match and this match wasn't great. We may have had a last heat decider but the racing was poor. The track looked to have plenty dirt on it but no-one came from the back apart from lap 1 second bend, usually a Somerset rider. I cannot understand how we do so well in away meetings and then struggle at home. Our riders are pretty good so what is the reason?Gating: we have a team that can beat home teams from the gate on our travels but at Brough our lads are often beaten I missed the reason for Richies first tapes exclusion. It just looked like he beat the ref so why was he stopped?

Edited July 22, 2013 by dantodan

[mike7164]

Judging by your opinion Mike I would suggest that the only team out of this weekends matches whom are happiest would be Somerset!! If Kyle Newman had not packed up at our place Saturday the Reb's would have had two off us as well? Wasn't expecting Robbo to turn in such a low score, normally one of your most reliable scorers tho if he was carrying an injury then that wouldn't have helped matter's, for what it's worth I like to see Robbo trying too hard, but only at our place, really flies round it, plenty of room!! Anyway it could have been worse, you could have lost as well!! All the Best.

Lucan I agree with you about Somerset being the happiest LOL and for what it is worth I like to see Robbo flying around as well, as he is Mr entertainer and a good team rider, but what I don't want to see is him trying over hard and making mistakes, as any rider getting injured is not good news however for Stuy to get any more injuries at all is bad as they are all servear where he is concerned IMO.

 

All the best to you and Workington for the rest of the season exept when racing against us home or away

[StevePark]

Depends on your rule book or mine although IMO we blew it tonight and we will continue to do so until we sign a 7th rider (or till Henry is fit to return) and we get a propper number one, which we have needed all season long.

 

Thats not having a go at Stuy as I like the guy a hero of mine, however I think some of his low scores of late is happening because IMO he is trying to hard and if he keeps doing it I fear he will come a nasty cropper on himself, so if you read this Stuy please ease up abit and stay safe!

 

As for the meeting well done both sides but IMO Somerset had the edge throughout the meeting, and may I also add my thoughts of the heat 14 reserves and I go against a lot of posters on here and I'm not Georges biggest fan regarding him as team manager, but I agreed with him leaving Chris in over Lewis, as in Lewis's last outing judged he broke the tapes, and although Ludvig won the heat before I would of maybe made a case for putting in both reserves as Ludvig had not done a lot before that race.

 

Just an opinion though.

 

I'd rather see Stuey (or anybody) trying his damndest to overtake somebody. If he (or anybody) settled for 3rd/2nd or whatever, you'd then get folk accusing him (or anyone else for that matter) of "not trying".

 

Robbo will give his all to get as many points as he can, for himself and the team. Long may that continue.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

To mike7164 - you do have a proper no1 at Newcastle - he rides at no5!!

[Tsunami]

I'd rather see Stuey (or anybody) trying his damndest to overtake somebody. If he (or anybody) settled for 3rd/2nd or whatever, you'd then get folk accusing him (or anyone else for that matter) of "not trying".

 

Robbo will give his all to get as many points as he can, for himself and the team. Long may that continue.

 

Very true. Robbo was injured at Edinburgh and only rode last night as we were already down by one with Christian. His hand and wrist had flipped back at Edinburgh, and he then landed on it which very nearly broke both. It was extremely painful last night but he was prepared to give it a go. The usual Robbo will return soon when he heals.

Thought it would be tight and, if Robbo hadn't been riding injured, I think we would have won by about 6. In the event, after the heat 11 and heat 14 fiasco's, I was greatful we got the draw.

Somerset heatleaders did their bit by winning races, but received poor backing with just the occasional piece of support. Luddi not a happy buddy with his bike setup in the first two races and his camp knew about it. Got better, but still not the rider of the last couple of months at home. Schramm, after some tasty scores and performances, last night reverted to the Schramm of old and overrode especially in vital heats 11 and 14, where I was starting to feel a bit concerned for the health of Davies.

The thing that IMO we got wrong last night, was requesting the team asking the track to be changed at 5.45. There was nothing wrong with the way it had been prepared by Jonny and his crew, but to rough it up was not the answer. Perhaps these decisions and requests could be made a bit earlier and follow some logic.

Anyway 5 points from the two weekend matches I would have settled for before Friday. It is still championship form. Somerset themselves must have been pleased with their returns with a 3 point haul away from two of their main challengers, three more match points and it could have been 6. As someone else has eluded to, how come there seems to be some advantage to be riding away from home for most of the top teams. Very strange.

 

Nice to meet Pirate Nick again, along with his noisy mates(just kidding), Keith and Kyle. Looks like we could be meeting again come the playoffs, lets hope so.

[mike7164]

To mike7164 - you do have a proper no1 at Newcastle - he rides at no5!!

dontforgetthefueltapsbruv thanks for your post but IMO although Richie is a VERY good rider he is not a number one in my view both in terms of the rolling avrages as well as the way he at times fades off towards the end of some meetings.

 

However if he keeps making good progress he could soon hold it down full time IMO

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

dontforgetthefueltapsbruv thanks for your post but IMO although Richie is a VERY good rider he is not a number one in my view both in terms of the rolling avrages as well as the way he at times fades off towards the end of some meetings.

 

However if he keeps making good progress he could soon hold it down full time IMO

Pull the other one!!

 

Richies 'real average' would put him at No 1 at all but a few clubs.

 

His rolling average has allowed you to field 4 7 pointers that in turn has made r/r more manageable where you have (unfortunately) had to use all year.

 

 

[mike7164]

Pull the other one!!

 

Richies 'real average' would put him at No 1 at all but a few clubs.

 

His rolling average has allowed you to field 4 7 pointers that in turn has made r/r more manageable where you have (unfortunately) had to use all year.

I don't dissagree with you at all but the fact is still he like other riders has to use a rolling average so with that as evedence as well as some of his races being below par he is not in my view a true no 1 although as I did say earlier a very good rider on the up, getting better week by week.

[Lord Lucan]

Lucan I agree with you about Somerset being the happiest LOL and for what it is worth I like to see Robbo flying around as well, as he is Mr entertainer and a good team rider, but what I don't want to see is him trying over hard and making mistakes, as any rider getting injured is not good news however for Stuy to get any more injuries at all is bad as they are all servear where he is concerned IMO.

 

All the best to you and Workington for the rest of the season exept when racing against us home or away

Thank's for that Mike and yes I agree, Stu is prone to bad injuries a bit like Adam Roynon and his all action style could be a contributory factor in that!! As I said, DP is the best place for his flat out racing style not the tight turns of Brough, but as your co respondents have stated, what do you do if he doesn't try "as" hard to get the points? Maybe once you get a full house back and the averages allow it, a drop to No3 or 5 would yield more consistency with a little less pressure to do well all of the time, he is getting on a bit so perhaps time for the young guns to step up to the plate and allow him to enjoy himself a bit!! I could have clicked that "like this" icon but I'm assuming it's a Facebook thing and for obvious reasons, I'm not on that!!!

[mike7164]

Thank's for that Mike and yes I agree, Stu is prone to bad injuries a bit like Adam Roynon and his all action style could be a contributory factor in that!! As I said, DP is the best place for his flat out racing style not the tight turns of Brough, but as your co respondents have stated, what do you do if he doesn't try "as" hard to get the points? Maybe once you get a full house back and the averages allow it, a drop to No3 or 5 would yield more consistency with a little less pressure to do well all of the time, he is getting on a bit so perhaps time for the young guns to step up to the plate and allow him to enjoy himself a bit!! I could have clicked that "like this" icon but I'm assuming it's a Facebook thing and for obvious reasons, I'm not on that!!!

I fully agree with everything you have said in this above post, I still wish you all the best exept against us and as of Facebook I avoid that like the plage I don't believe in it or twitter.