PHILIPRISING Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 THINK this deserves a topic on its own ... what a fantastic performance by Greg Hancock at both King's Lynn and particularly Prague in the SWC. Young riders need an inspirational hero and who better than Greg. A classy rider and a classy person. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmas Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 Is this why team GB are rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 Greg was brilliant. put his heart & soul into the world cup and showed excellent support and shared knowledge with rest of the team. really did his country proud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 (edited) The biggest inspiration Greg showed to his younger riders was National pride. Something evidently lacking from British speedway by our riders for many many many many many many years Edited July 19, 2013 by screamer 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 The biggest inspiration Greg showed to his younger riders was National pride. Something evidently lacking from British speedway by our riders for many many many many many many years What riders would you be aiming that accusation at just out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 Great ambassador and role model for the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 What riders would you be aiming that accusation at just out of interest? All of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjm Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 All of them. That’s absurd. I appreciate that after a result last night it becomes the norm on forums for people to just get completely carried away and begin to say things that are emotion fuelled, and sure the riders deserve a slating but what you are saying is just nonsense. You are implying that riders like Richardson, Harris, Havelock, Loram, Louis, Screen and even the likes of Barker and Bridger don’t have passion and a want to ride for their country? For his limitations at the top level the one thing that can’t be levelled at Barker is a lack of National Pride. Even during last nights meeting (and I am not one to buy into this BS about who likes who, and who doesn’t, but I will go with it for the sake of this) Barker and Woffinden apparently don’t get on and based on their body language last night (not an expert on this field) it was easy to assume that they don’t, but they weren’t avoiding each other and clearly put their differences aside for the sake of the country, fair play to them for that. I would say any lack of “National Pride” has come about as a result of a feeling that the country (or the authorities at least) have turned their back on them, and if that happens often enough and the riders take the attitude of “if you don’t care, it makes it harder for me to” I can’t blame for that, that’s not a flaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main Man Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Herbie was superb and a great inspiration to his team mates. Working with him and Billy at Kings Lynn and Prague was an honour and I enjoyed each and every second .....well done Team USA --and that includes all mechanics and the backroom team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucks Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Herbie was superb and a great inspiration to his team mates. Working with him and Billy at Kings Lynn and Prague was an honour and I enjoyed each and every second .....well done Team USA --and that includes all mechanics and the backroom team. aye yer right a hero in my household long may he continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Great ambassador and role model for the sport. Indeed. Yanks have always been very proud of their nation.The Brits on the other hand, more so the younger ones are not. Could be as there are not many Brits left in Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Indeed. Yanks have always been very proud of their nation.The Brits on the other hand, more so the younger ones are not. Could be as there are not many Brits left in Britain. TBF, I don't think you can acuse Barker and Bridger of not being proud. In fact Barker got into a confrontation at Cardiff one year because someone was supporting the Poles and not the Brits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 TBF, I don't think you can acuse Barker and Bridger of not being proud. In fact Barker got into a confrontation at Cardiff one year because someone was supporting the Poles and not the Brits. But then Barker gets into all sorts of situations that he shouldn't do!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 TBF, I don't think you can acuse Barker and Bridger of not being proud. In fact Barker got into a confrontation at Cardiff one year because someone was supporting the Poles and not the Brits. Barker could start a confrontation in an empty room...Its really no ones business who an individual supports IMO.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I would say any lack of “National Pride” has come about as a result of a feeling that the country (or the authorities at least) have turned their back on them, and if that happens often enough and the riders take the attitude of “if you don’t care, it makes it harder for me to” I can’t blame for that, that’s not a flaw. Hmm.. The support for the British riders is first rate compared to the support the US team gets from their ruling body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Hmm.. The support for the British riders is first rate compared to the support the US team gets from their ruling body. Thats because only a few hundred people in the states know what speedway is ! Most would turn up expecting car racing :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Thats because only a few hundred people in the states know what speedway is ! Most would turn up expecting car racing :-) 6500 fans at the Monster Invitational between Xmas and New Year (when lots of Californians travel) would say otherwise. Ditto the same kind of crowd for the US National at Costa Mesa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegal Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 6500 fans at the Monster Invitational between Xmas and New Year (when lots of Californians travel) would say otherwise. Ditto the same kind of crowd for the US National at Costa Mesa. The difference is that British fans know what to expect from what's on offer...When they see a sub-standard outfit, they will stay away.....that's why the Elite League is rubbishe.....they simply cannot support with any genuine fervour a team of Mercanary's..and that's what the product is.Most americans will support without question a National team (as rare as Hens teeth), and given plenty of advertising they will turn out to watch good racing. Those who have sadly never been to California Speedway have missed what our sport is all about. Great racing, close racing, well promoted, expertly staged.The only answer for UK is for every Elite League Team to race 1 time a month with every top racer they can get hold of. For the rest of the season..ALL teams form a main British League and form teams with part Prem part National League..it will take 3 years but by then you will have your own stars and a genuine British League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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