TheReturn Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 On 7/22/2013 at 7:42 PM, Starman2006 said: Neil is a very good manager, In recent years how do we know? It's so easy to appear to be a good manager when your club team includes Holder, Ward etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 On 7/22/2013 at 7:47 PM, TheReturn said: In recent years how do we know? It's so easy to appear to be a good manager when your club team includes Holder, Ward etc. What happened before Holder and ward? We still won championships K O Cups League cup craven shields... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 On 7/22/2013 at 7:49 PM, Starman2006 said: What happened before Holder and ward? We still won championships K O Cups League cup craven shields... And which star riders did you have back then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 On 7/22/2013 at 7:34 PM, yerropes said: Not true, you and me could have achieved what Middlo has done this year... He may be a nice bloke, but he's just a totem and not up to the job There is no 'team spirit' in Team GB (England) and his tactical skills are questionable at best. The riders available may not be good enough to win the WTC, but a passionate Manager that does more than fill in the program might help. Having said that, the powers that be in British Speedway seem not to be that bothered...(at all).. Some Brits have a attitude problem and big ego to try and cope with ,which is beyond them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) On 7/22/2013 at 7:42 PM, Starman2006 said: Mate that bottom line is probably more to the truth, Neil is a very good manager, but if bad vibes filter down from the top then no matter what is said then your not going to get full rider comitment hence why didn't Scott ride? yes i was pleased to see Bridger ride properly and not showboat But take away Tai and Bomber we are in dire trouble, and i don't care what anybody says, nobody, will improve things, not this year next year or the year after without the full backing of the powers that be. On 7/22/2013 at 10:10 PM, Fromafar said: Some Brits have a attitude problem and big ego to try and cope with ,which is beyond them Do you know them personally? or are you guessing!! Edited July 22, 2013 by sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 On 7/22/2013 at 7:35 PM, sidney said: Yeh right! are you for real? ask Ward,Holder(ect) and other ex Great riders i wont name them all and other endless top class riders he has dealt with.Ok he has made mistakes so what we all have ! but his record over a long period stacks up pretty favourably in his favour, yep Kevin Keegan was great at Newcastle and crap for England!! Just because you Poole fans think the sun shines from his backside doesn't mean he is right for the country. Oh and Keegan failed because he picked the wrong team and his tactics were crap! ring any bells??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) On 7/19/2013 at 9:34 PM, orion said: They might have but they are still miles behind the uk ...the bookies gave them little chance of beating the uk are nor did the fans . They got it wrong mate, and alot on here who know they're European speedway leagues knew it would be tough pretty even ! this is 2013 not 1969! orion' On 7/22/2013 at 10:20 PM, Gavan said: yep Kevin Keegan was great at Newcastle and crap for England!! Just because you Poole fans think the sun shines from his backside doesn't mean he is right for the country. Oh and Keegan failed because he picked the wrong team and his tactics were crap! ring any bells??? Na you talk total Crap,take a deep breath and talk about another sport Football and Speedway not your strongest point not alot of hope i am afraid! Edited July 22, 2013 by sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) On 7/22/2013 at 10:18 PM, sidney said: Do you know them personally? or are you guessing!! Just guessing!! But they have attracted my attention by their antics off track. Edited July 22, 2013 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Question as I have no idea. Was Middlo a team manager before Mart Ford came along and how did those teams do??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary moore Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 7/23/2013 at 7:46 AM, sidney said: <abusive personal posts by Gavan and Sidney removed> tut tut tut!! come on you two,this is supposed to be a `freindly` forum? weve all got views on this subject,some right,some wrong but lets not attack each other eh? PS Middlo out lol!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGER69 Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 If you look around at the team managers at the moment and Middlo went as stated who is there to take his place. Could we have a foreign manager in charge and would that be better in the long run because they seem to have more passion than Elite league managers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 7/23/2013 at 9:15 AM, badger1969 said: If you look around at the team managers at the moment and Middlo went as stated who is there to take his place. Could we have a foreign manager in charge and would that be better in the long run because they seem to have more passion than Elite league managers Do you think that Team Manager in Speedway really makes the difference,a wee bit rider juggling and the guts to drop an out of form rider could be done by most people,if it pays off a hero if not your a numpty.I would have thought that a recently retired rider with a bit of set-up knowledge would be more beneficial whoever that may be. Just a suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Shaker Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Scott Nicholls - Rider / manager - that's one solution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 7/19/2013 at 10:43 PM, foreverblue said: Funny how the best riders always wanted to ride for him, I remember crumpie saying the only person he wanted to ride for was middlo. He also said that Foxhall is his favourite track, doesn't make it the best available does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Perhaps the Team Manager should also have a experienced Pit Crew to offer advice on set ups during meetings if required.The riders seem to get into all sorts of bother with their own crew sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipswich Jules Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 7/22/2013 at 3:18 PM, Starman2006 said: And everybody is telling us he's a yes man.......NO... Whooooooosh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Gav, and tell me this, what has Neil got to work with? If he puts out the experienced riders and we get beat, people moan, if he puts out the kids and they get tailed off, which they will, people will moan, he's in a no win situation.. But of course there are many would be managers on here who obviously think they can do better,,, behind a keyboard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) On 7/23/2013 at 2:47 PM, Starman2006 said: Gav, and tell me this, what has Neil got to work with? If he puts out the experienced riders and we get beat, people moan, if he puts out the kids and they get tailed off, which they will, people will moan, he's in a no win situation.. But of course there are many would be managers on here who obviously think they can do better,,, behind a keyboard... He tried both an got totally muddled. He does not seem to know what he is doing. Everyone said EK was the wrong choice, yet our national manager chose him. Maybe us keyboard managers could do a better job when it comes to selection. Edited July 23, 2013 by TheReturn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 7/23/2013 at 2:55 PM, TheReturn said: He tried both an got totally muddled. He does not seem to know what he is doing. Everyone said EK was the wrong choice, yet our national manager chose him. Maybe us keyboard managers could do a better job when it comes to selection. Its his choice, not yours... I some how very much doubt it, its all very well shouting from behind a computer screen, but put you in the pits you would fall to pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 On 7/23/2013 at 3:05 PM, Starman2006 said: Its his choice, not yours... I some how very much doubt it, its all very well shouting from behind a computer screen, but put you in the pits you would fall to pieces. But he got it totally wrong, again, as he always does. Thus not a single person on this forum (even you!) could do any worse. Nothing to lose and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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