iris123 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37155008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ommer Mon Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 So one sport's gain is several sports' loss! Footy wins again - nothing else seems to matter. I've enjoyed many meetings at Plough Lane. Nothing for me will beat the sight of Ronnie Moore in full flow. Poetry in Motion. Sad day for the dogs, stocks and speedway fans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 So one sport's gain is several sports' loss! Footy wins again - nothing else seems to matter. I've enjoyed many meetings at Plough Lane. Nothing for me will beat the sight of Ronnie Moore in full flow. Poetry in Motion. Sad day for the dogs, stocks and speedway fans. My friend, you are so very correct in your assertion. My loathing of football is immense. Just my opinion, obviously. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Shoe Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I don't loathe any sport. If i don't like a sport i don't watch it but the problem is that football at Premier League and Football League means money nowadays and that attracts people like investors and developers. I'm not sure why a football club with attendances of 3,500 to 4,000 needs such a big stadium but the developers obviously like the flats and retail outlets that go along with it. The football bubble will inevitably burst one day and it will probably all end up as a flats one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I don't loathe any sport. If i don't like a sport i don't watch it but the problem is that football at Premier League and Football League means money nowadays and that attracts people like investors and developers. I'm not sure why a football club with attendances of 3,500 to 4,000 needs such a big stadium but the developers obviously like the flats and retail outlets that go along with it. The football bubble will inevitably burst one day and it will probably all end up as a flats one day. The trouble is, Hot Shoe, there is only so much money to go round whether it be in the form of corporate/tv money or Joe Public money. Football sucks up so much that there is not much left for the less favoured sports such as speedway. There comes a point when something stops being primarily a sport and instead becomes a money-generating business where the bulk of the money flows upwards to the few rather than downwards to the many. Football and Formula 1 motor sport are probably the worst offenders and I suppose that is why I have no interest in either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUFC_Brummie Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Wimbledon only get 3.5k to 4k because that's the capacity of their current stadium. Away support is restricted to c.900 tickets, there are plenty of teams even in the bottom 2 divisions that would take over 1.5k there for a game. At their current level I have no doubt AFC Wimbledon would get 7-8k on average in a new facility, numbers speedway can't get close to at club level. The reality is that football will draw in crowds across the country, at all levels of the game, that other sports can only dream of. Bigger crowds doesn't only mean more money into the local area on a matchday, it means bigger stadiums, which means more quality non-matchday facilities available to business and the community. Plough Lane has been falling into disrepair for years, there must've been ample opportunities for it to be redeveloped for the benefit of greyhound and speedway racing long before AFC Wimbledon first started properly proposing to use the site, but like most speedway clubs and facilities, nothing was done and the price has been paid. The hope for speedway is that Belle Vue is the catalyst for other areas to take on similar projects, far too long in coming (in the sense of British speedway as a whole) and far too late for Plough Lane though. Edited August 23, 2016 by CUFC_Brummie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 The hope for speedway is that Belle Vue is the catalyst for other areas to take on similar projects, far too long in coming (in the sense of British speedway as a whole) and far too late for Plough Lane though. Well, that's a nice idea but can you think of any other authority which might be open to this idea? Manchester has always been a bit of a pioneer when it comes to spending it's money on sporting facilities but I'm struggling to think of anywhere else in England that this idea might gain traction? Perhaps you know something that I do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Shoe Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 The trouble is, Hot Shoe, there is only so much money to go round whether it be in the form of corporate/tv money or Joe Public money. Football sucks up so much that there is not much left for the less favoured sports such as speedway. There comes a point when something stops being primarily a sport and instead becomes a money-generating business where the bulk of the money flows upwards to the few rather than downwards to the many. Football and Formula 1 motor sport are probably the worst offenders and I suppose that is why I have no interest in either. I presume by 'football' you mean the Premier League and Football League as there are hundreds more football clubs that struggle to survive week to week. The fact that football 'sucks up so much' shows how successful the game has become. I'm sure speedway would like to suck up the same amount football does if they could but speedways demise has nothing to do with the success of football. If speedway ever became a money generating business do you think that the bulk of the money would flow anywhere but upwards because i don't. Rather than being a less favoured sport i'd say it was more like unpopular. It's a shame but that's the way it is. Plough Lane has been falling into disrepair for years, there must've been ample opportunities for it to be redeveloped for the benefit of greyhound and speedway racing long before AFC Wimbledon first started properly proposing to use the site, but like most speedway clubs and facilities, nothing was done and the price has been paid. ...and like nearly every stadium is/was held in the speedway promotion don't own the stadium which has been a major reason why speedway has never had a solid footing in the world of sport in the UK. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I presume by 'football' you mean the Premier League and Football League as there are hundreds more football clubs that struggle to survive week to week. The fact that football 'sucks up so much' shows how successful the game has become. I'm sure speedway would like to suck up the same amount football does if they could but speedways demise has nothing to do with the success of football. If speedway ever became a money generating business do you think that the bulk of the money would flow anywhere but upwards because i don't. Rather than being a less favoured sport i'd say it was more like unpopular. It's a shame but that's the way it is. ...and like nearly every stadium is/was held in the speedway promotion don't own the stadium which has been a major reason why speedway has never had a solid footing in the world of sport in the UK. Yes Hot Shoe, those are two very well-made points. I thank you for your insight, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Football isn't the enemy here. The second that Luke Johnston and his gang at RCP got their hands on the GRA, Wimbledon was always going to developed. Up until recently the RCP website had a load of old tosh about its plans to re-energise the dog tracks, whereas the more prosaic truth was that they just borrowed a load of money to buy GRA knowing that there would be nice profits when they knocked them down for development. Seeing as Speedway has been lost to Plough Lane for over a decade it is the greyhound fraternity that will feel the loss the most. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tyrrell Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 The Wimbledon situation is just the latest reflection by a bunch of greedy bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ommer Mon Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 I enjoy my footy too, Little Thumper, but I believe that there should be a balance in sports offered in an area. I think this takes care of the last dog track in London doesn't it? All very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 End of the road? http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/14767011.AFC_Wimbledon_cleared_for_Plough_Lane_return/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Incredibly sad, but fully expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I went past the old place yesterday, it did look a site for sore eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I went past the old place yesterday, it did look a site for sore eyes. Such a shame as I remember the first time I rode there I thought wow what a great stadium and a nice shaped track. It was a great speedway venue, sad loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 RIP Wimbledon Speedway. Sadly, it had no chance once the football got involved, because that empty sport is controlled solely by money. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 The stadium is and was always sadly destined for bigger and better things, speedway was always reliant on the graft and money of the likes of the greyhound and football fraternity, sadly only one would to a degree would work with them in this respect and the end result is a football stadium. Speedway had little or no chance of continuing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Save Wimbledon Stadium Action Group 1 hr · Time is running out. Please sign the petition https://www.change.org/p/stop-the-bulldozers-save-the-last-… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Such a shame as I remember the first time I rode there I thought wow what a great stadium and a nice shaped track. It was a great speedway venue, sad loss. That's interesting to know that you rode at Wimbledon robert72. You say 'first time' which indicates more than one outing at Plough Lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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