Lioness Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 That can never happen: football and speedway are 'estranged bed fellows'. Basically, football clubs do not like speedway tracks round their piches. Berwick and Glasgow have both managed to get into bed with football clubs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 (edited) Berwick and Glasgow have both managed to get into bed with football clubs... I think you might find that the Wembley Stadium had a Speedway track round the outside of the footbal pitch and greyhound track as well. Edited July 19, 2013 by mickthemuppet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 I think you might find that the Wembley Stadium had a Speedway track round the outside of the footbal pitch and greyhound track as well. Yes - but - in Wembley's case they put a stop to it as soon as they could after Sir Arthur Elvin died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 I think you might find that the Wembley Stadium had a Speedway track round the outside of the footbal pitch and greyhound track as well. Thanks Mick - so did Shawfield and Hampden at one time. I think perhaps St Mirren Park as well? I thought he meant currently though which was why I mentioned those two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stadia Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 I think if AFC Wimbledon are now the "darlings of Merton Council", then it is something that's long overdue. In the past the council have treated the football fans of Wimbledon pretty shabbily, so hopefully they plan to redress the balance. Remember Wimbledon were a first division / premier league team in 1991, when their owner decided to move them across London to Crystal Palace. Then in 2002, as a Championship team (2nd tier of English football) they were reallocated to Milton Keynes. So what did their fans do? Whinge about it on Fans Forums, petition the local council? ......yes of course they did. But some of them were not going to be beaten. They got off their backsides and did something about it. They formed a new club, and joined a league in the 9th tier of English football. Through sheer hard work they fought their way back to regain their league status. All this with little or no support from the local council. So personally I think those AFC Wimbledon fans deserve the right to play once again in the borough, and to have a Plough Lane address would be magical. All sterling stuff and can understand your passion, but this is a speedway forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brujas Espanolas Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I notice that that once again the anonymous and pusillanimous hand of moderation has been in action again. Of course these faceless guardians of good taste and morality, have not shown the common decency to explain why they found it necessary to edit the post. I understand that when you join a club you accept the rules of that club, but having checked the Forum Posting Guidelines, I cannot understand what rules I've breached. This time it was felt necessary to edit and delete the phrases: Now without an explanation one can only speculate. Was it just ignorance, a fear of what they didn't understand or some perverse form of xenophobia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Surely this 'campaign' should become the remit of the newly formed 'Speedway Parliamentary Group' announced by BSPA this week!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brujas Espanolas Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I fully understood your two Spanish quotes: Buenos tardes - good evening, and vamos azul! - let's go blue. Nothing offensive in them at all. I fail to understand why they were deleted but I assume that's the final perogative of being a moderator. They have a job to do and all things considered do cope admirably in their task. Adios Amigo! I agree being a moderator isn't the easiest task, but why do they seem to get their knickers in a twist over such an inconsequential issue. Once again the words Buenos tardes, vamos azul have been removed, as has hasta la vista now. I'm surprised that your adios amigo has remained intact!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Esta muy bien! Now let's get back to debating on the Wimbledon Stadium issue. "Ándele! Ándele! Arriba! Arriba! Epa! Epa! Epa! Yeehaw!". :rofl: :rofl: (Speedy Gonzales - 1953) Edited July 20, 2013 by The White Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Just for the record,Cowdenbeath and Newtongrange were also active football venues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Even if they did get an agreement to share with the football, Wimbledon AFC would want the speedway out once the bigger leagues are entertained. The lease terms would make Oxford sound viable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brujas Espanolas Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Just for the record,Cowdenbeath and Newtongrange were also active football venues. For the record, south of the border I can think of the following venues were football and speedway co-existed: Ashingdon Eastville Kingsmead The Shay Somerton Park Stamford Bridge Lea Bridge Seedhill Owlerton Brooklands I'm feel sure there are many other examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obrien48 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Sent my emails, hope it has an effect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boywonder Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 For a decade from the late 80s I was a non league football referee and member of LONSAR, the refs society, as was a younger Stephen Alambritis, now Mayor of Merton. My first love is speedway, his is football and he is very strong on non league and I expect he will be massively sympathetic to AFC Wimbledon as he will have moved in those circles for years and years. The best tactic is to court the rich Irish greyhound supporters and owners, research who Risk Capital actually are and hope the Irish can buy out the developers and Galliard Homes, as money talks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 That can never happen: football and speedway are 'estranged bed fellows'. Basically, football clubs do not like speedway tracks round their piches. Neither do they go well around football pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Aside from mispelling of pi(t)ches, I assume you mean that when a track is laid round a football it does not offer a good racing oval for the bikes? Your comment is most thought provoking and one which I tend to agree with. I can't agree with it though.......the Canterbury track was laid around the local football teams pitch and was one of the best tracks I've ever seen (and I've been to almost 100!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I am not sure but do think that these days the Football League is opposed to speedway tracks round their member clubs pitches while the lower leagues have no objection. I do stand to be corrected on this. Maybe, maybe not, but I thought the point of discussion was the quality of a speedway track around a football pitch Wembley World Finals always seemed fairly well received too.......and that track surrounded probably the most famous football pitch in the world !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Maybe, maybe not, but I thought the point of discussion was the quality of a speedway track around a football pitch Wembley World Finals always seemed fairly well received too.......and that track surrounded probably the most famous football pitch in the world !! I totally disagree with that statement. I believe that the Football Pitch was in the centre of the World's most famous Speedway Track. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Maybe, maybe not, but I thought the point of discussion was the quality of a speedway track around a football pitch Wembley World Finals always seemed fairly well received too.......and that track surrounded probably the most famous football pitch in the world !! The speedway track did not 'surround' the football pitch at Wembley. Only the bends were visible when the the full sized pitch was put down over the rest of the track on the straights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted July 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 For the record, south of the border I can think of the following venues were football and speedway co-existed: Ashingdon Eastville Kingsmead The Shay Somerton Park Stamford Bridge Lea Bridge Seedhill Owlerton Brooklands I'm feel sure there are many other examples. Well there was Custom House - the track went round the pitch of the infamous Thames Assoc's pitch there originally. Don't think you're right about Lea Bridge though. The dog track/Speedway NOT the same as Clapton Orient's nearby football ground. And the track at Crystal Palace was around the ground used for FA Cup Finals pre-Wembley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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