Arson fire Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 You either have it or you don't. you haven't a scooby. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Auty hasnt 'stood still'. His average has improved by 2 points since 2011! I dont hink Auty will ever be World Class but i think in future he can be a dependable and solid rider for GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Auty hasnt 'stood still'. His average has improved by 2 points since 2011! I dont hink Auty will ever be World Class but i think in future he can be a dependable and solid rider for GB. his EL average maybe has, but we all know how bad that has become with the majority of riders PL riders or a similar standard, don't get me wrong,he's a decent rider and entertaining...but not good enough or consistent enough for to be classed good enough for GB. It's only that we are so bad with a shortage of riders that his name is mentioned in that bracket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 his EL average maybe has, but we all know how bad that has become with the majority of riders PL riders or a similar standard, don't get me wrong,he's a decent rider and entertaining...but not good enough or consistent enough for to be classed good enough for GB. It's only that we are so bad with a shortage of riders that his name is mentioned in that bracket. Spot on ,no disrespect to Josh but I think that sums it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 you haven't a scooby. Think we all take that as a given. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 North's inclusion would be a gamble but he's young and deserves the chance to get some experience. not if the aussies want to get through!! Auty can do something that 90% of British riders can't do. Pass riders! he can but not at this level! You can learn gating but you can't learn to pass! He has something to work with and that's the ability to generate speed, His style is similar to a raw Michael Jepsen Jensen can you learn gating? ask Mark Loram! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Are Barker & Woofy cool with each other now? I thought there was some major Beef there last season!!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 not if the aussies want to get through!! he can but not at this level! can you learn gating? ask Mark Loram! Thankfully Mark never learn't to gate and we were all very grateful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Thankfully Mark never learn't to gate and we were all very grateful. And PC to! both great racers gating is it a natural thing i believe so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Are Barker & Woofy cool with each other now? I thought there was some major Beef there last season!!? Is there anybody out there who hasnt had some kind of run in with Barker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Is there anybody out there who hasnt had some kind of run in with Barker. The search is on 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) I don't think Middlo done himself any favours the other night, judging by some of the decisions he made . To most people it was an ideal opportunity to include Worrall in his first international. Racing the NA most week would have used the good grounding and I am in no doubt he would have done well in this class field. But you elected to use Kennett and then sub him after one pathetic ride. He rode that race like a novice, but even he deserved the benefit of another go. The competition the other night was not about Denmark, they were always going to win, it was about beating Sweden and USA. To have use all your eggs by heat 7 is not my idea of a good manager. As it happened the competition was poor and we progressed through, but that was more to do with luck then the decision made by our management. I feel it was an opportunity missed and riders like Worrall would have benefitted big time. Also, I thought Cook equipped himself pretty good . he was not outclassed and I can understand his frustration of being dropped . I don't think his replacements will fear much better, after all we're not talking about a Michael Lee or a Peter Collins just a pair of the same PL standard riders.. And to think, we once had more class riders then all the other nations put together. How times has changed Edited July 17, 2013 by GRW123 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olga Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Middlo just drops Eddie and he'd be admitting his original selection mistake. He drops Cook and Eddie and it's "we're strengtheneneneneneening up for the play-offs". Yeah right. I agree completely with GRW123 ... Should have been Worrall and Cook at KL. After all, with these rules, you only need 2 top riders effectively when the oppo isn't strong as your strongest 2 can go for 18 and 21 points each. So we were reasonably assured of not being last. Having picked Kennett he was dumped after 1 ride (was it necessary to go all jokered up that early?) ... On his last ride his confidence was so blown he just slid off. Cookie aquitted himself quite well (despite not gating which surprised me). Having dumped Cookie ... god forbid we pick up an injury ... who would Middlo bring in if we make the final ... "Micky Dyer" (I'm joking here everyone .... I know he's an Aussie) Fingers crossed for Thursday anyway ... up the Brits Edited July 17, 2013 by Olga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 IMO theres no reason why the GB team cant get to saturdays final,Hancock is certainly capable of winning races but theres not much after that for the USA,Latvia showed in Poland last sunday they can be compeditive but I think the finals beyond them.Next come the Aussies,Ward of course is world class,and to a lesser extent Batchelor but theres points to be gained from Doyle and Watt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 IMO theres no reason why the GB team cant get to saturdays final,Hancock is certainly capable of winning races but theres not much after that for the USA,Latvia showed in Poland last sunday they can be compeditive but I think the finals beyond them.Next come the Aussies,Ward of course is world class,and to a lesser extent Batchelor but theres points to be gained from Doyle and Watt. Aussies are saying there's Tai and to a lesser extent Harris but there's points to be gained from Barker and Bridger .Hope the Latvians shock both of them which they may be capable.certaianly spoilers big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Middlo just drops Eddie and he'd be admitting his original selection mistake. He drops Cook and Eddie and it's "we're strengtheneneneneneening up for the play-offs". Yeah right. I agree completely with GRW123 ... Should have been Worrall and Cook at KL. After all, with these rules, you only need 2 top riders effectively when the oppo isn't strong as your strongest 2 can go for 18 and 21 points each. So we were reasonably assured of not being last. Having picked Kennett he was dumped after 1 ride (was it necessary to go all jokered up that early?) ... On his last ride his confidence was so blown he just slid off. Cookie aquitted himself quite well (despite not gating which surprised me). Having dumped Cookie ... god forbid we pick up an injury ... who would Middlo bring in if we make the final ... "Micky Dyer" (I'm joking here everyone .... I know he's an Aussie) Fingers crossed for Thursday anyway ... up the Brits If we made the final with the four out tomorrow, i think Neil will stick with them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 If we made the final with the four out tomorrow, i think Neil will stick with them.. And so he should,if we make the Final then its 3rd place at best for me on saturday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 And so he should,if we make the Final then its 3rd place at best for me on saturday. Probably thats realistic. But if we did, get there, then im sure the message would be we have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Team GB will be leaving the world cup after tomorrow night. Darcy Ward is just too good, Middlo knows it and unless Middlo locks Ward up in his bedroom, I can see a comfortable Aussie win by 10 points. If Team GB beat Australia tomorrow, I won't post on the forum until August and that's how confident I am of Mark Lemon's troops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 If Team GB beat Australia tomorrow, I won't post on the forum until August and that's how confident I am of Mark Lemon's troops. If there was ever an extra incentive for the GB boys thats this is it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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