Jonny the spud Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Marmande for the Long track GP....was expecting ten euros or something silly, when we got there there were boxes piled up, help yourself to a programme and a pen to fill the thing in. Ok it was full of adverts but it had a race card, points chart, competitors photos, up to date standings and list of officials all for nought. What more do you need, so the French resisted cashing in, perhaps its a culture thing i don't know but it winds me up to have to pay two quid for the rubbish Rye House programme every week and the tenna for the Cardiff prog is robbery. An official score card would probably cost five pence and would do a job Marmande own their own track, the pens are sponsored, only put on one international meeting a year, revieve a large subsidy from the FFM (French ACU) and entry is €25. I've been many times, once when there was 22,000 spectators so money isn't really a problem there ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
refereerick Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 This is part of what i've said before, rip off the last few supporters. Rather than try to bring in new support by providing a great product, promotions in general provide a poorer product year on year and just charge the the dwindling fan base more and more to cover their costs. It'll get to when the last two fans left on the terraces get charged something like £5,000 to get in! Imagine if Tesco's customer base was dropping like a stone and instead of trying to get more shoppers through the door they just put a loaf of bread up to £10 to make up for selling less than they used to! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I just find it difficult to take from Peterborough, especially when it's a local derby knowing full well more away fans will purchase a programme. Programmes are always in the season budget. If the fixture isn't a rearranged one like Friday (Peterborough v King's Lynn) Promoters should issue the relevant programme, not a postponed Belle Vue one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Marmande own their own track, the pens are sponsored, only put on one international meeting a year, revieve a large subsidy from the FFM (French ACU) and entry is €25. I've been many times, once when there was 22,000 spectators so money isn't really a problem there ! But why do they have crowds of 22,000? Probably because they dont try and take £2 of fans for a programme and ekk another few ££ for the car park when no alternative is available and generally try and squeeze every last penny out of the fans/customers. It's all the little things that add up to having a good experience and British Speedway seems intent on relying on the "oh, but they need our money so don't complain or there will be no speedway" approach. No other business works like this - well, no successful business! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucks Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 This is part of what i've said before, rip off the last few supporters. Rather than try to bring in new support by providing a great product, promotions in general provide a poorer product year on year and just charge the the dwindling fan base more and more to cover their costs. It'll get to when the last two fans left on the terraces get charged something like £5,000 to get in! Imagine if Tesco's customer base was dropping like a stone and instead of trying to get more shoppers through the door they just put a loaf of bread up to £10 to make up for selling less than they used to! i or my nearest friends have never been to a meeting with r.r riders as we feel your getting ripped of. you pay top dllar you want a fullteam of riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Quite simple really, you go onto speedway plus and print off your own race card, been doing that myself for last few years, programmes to my mind are not value for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hoddesdon Town FC, the nearest senior football club to Rye House produced a 116 page programme last year for £1.50. Blimey, 116 pages?! Would take the whole 90 minutes to read that much!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 But why do they have crowds of 22,000? Probably because they dont try and take £2 of fans for a programme and ekk another few ££ for the car park when no alternative is available and generally try and squeeze every last penny out of the fans/customers. It's all the little things that add up to having a good experience and British Speedway seems intent on relying on the "oh, but they need our money so don't complain or there will be no speedway" approach. No other business works like this - well, no successful business! Because its a well established once a year fixture. The free pens is a little thing but I recall its an insurance company or something that supplies them ( no cost to the club ) They have a big stack of speakers in the centre green pumping out music to get the crowd going ... Commentators going wild ( a la kelvin ) during the heat. ( although I've never heard WWWWOOOOAAAAH SUPER SPEEDWAY. Yet) During a UK meeting there's none of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmuffe Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Blimey, 116 pages?! Would take the whole 90 minutes to read that much!! .......something to do if the match is crap!! Edited July 17, 2013 by seanmuffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Would you think its acceptable if you went to a restaurant and they served up day old food that they hadn't sold the previous day? This is another example of promoters taking the piss out of their paying customers. Mattk , how little you know of the catering industry. Do you seriously think that a restuarant throw the food away at the end of the day if they have not sold it. That's why they have refrigerators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ore Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Blimey, 116 pages?! Would take the whole 90 minutes to read that much!! Front cover only took 2 seconds to read. .......something to do if the match is crap!! Would have filled in for the delays in the 4s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewrunagall Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 To save myself a few pounds, I've started using this on my phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.krygiel.speedway.programme&hl=en it's an app for Android phones and tablet PC's which was released only last week, just before the start of the World Cup, at the moment it features all the teams from all three of Poland's leagues, the British Elite League as well as formats for the World Cup and Grand Prix. I have been in contact with the maker of the programme app as he wanted to know about the teams in the Premier and National Leagues too. I highly recommend using it, however, just be careful not to get your phone/tablet PC stolen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 I always used to be keen on collecting programmes, there was a program I really would have liked to have got last season but they sold out and never done a reprint, I think being a lakeside fan you will all know the meeting I'm referring to. A few weeks back I turned up for a meeting a despite only a fairly average crowd they had sold out of programmes so I improvised and used my phone to keep track of results, in the end I figured what's the point in wasting £2.50 every time so now I don't bother, that's at least £35 a season the club has now lost. The trouble is programmes in general are a rip off and promoters rely on people wanting to collect them and refuse to publish team line ups to try and prevent fans making their own ahead of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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