Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Can anyone please fill in the details of the Bronze Helmet in 2012 and 2013? The challenges and winners over last season and so far this campaign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Derek, results for 2012 are thus: 08.05.12 Richie Worrall (Stoke) beat Paul Starke (Isle of Wight) ISLE OF WIGHT 21.07.12 Ashley Birks (Stoke) beat Tom Perry (Dudley) STOKE 05.08.12 Ashley Birks (Stoke) beat Cameron Heeps (Mildenhall) MILDENHALL 22.09.12 Ashley Birks (Stoke) beat Ben Morley (Rye House) RYE HOUSE 20.10.12 Stefan Nielsen (Mildenhall) beat Ben Reade (Stoke) STOKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted July 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Cheers MM!! This year I know Tom Perry took the helmet off Nielsen... Was that Nielsen's first defence in 2013..? And was that at Mildenhall or at Monmore Green..? Then at Kent in June Steve Boxall beat Perry: I know the details of that one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 If you guys want this as a sticky to try and keep tabs on who is racing for it where/when once you get the info, just give one of us a shout. Good to hear its still getting raced for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Cheers MM!! This year I know Tom Perry took the helmet off Nielsen... Was that Nielsen's first defence in 2013..? And was that at Mildenhall or at Monmore Green..? Then at Kent in June Steve Boxall beat Perry: I know the details of that one!!! Nielsen's first defence was the one against Perry at Mildenhall. Cheers MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedboy Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 And on june 4th perry bt lee smart (stoke) at the low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted July 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 results for 2012 ................ 22.09.12 Ashley Birks (Stoke) beat Ben Morley (Rye House) RYE HOUSE 20.10.12 Stefan Nielsen (Mildenhall) beat Ben Reade (Stoke) STOKE So why did Birks relinquish the helmet leading to Nielsen & Reade challenging for the vacancy..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 So why did Birks relinquish the helmet leading to Nielsen & Reade challenging for the vacancy..? If memory serves he wasn't at the meeting. Bronze helmet is run poorly IMO as it should be defended every meeting, against the top scorer, after heat 15. Why only defend it once a month? Ridiculous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builderbob Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 totally agree vog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted July 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 I agree - would revamp the event to go back to the old formula of being contested/defended every meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Helmet match races were keenly anticipated back in the 60's, all the shine has now gone and where have the original helmets gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmet Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Can anyone please fill in the details of the Bronze Helmet in 2012 and 2013? The challenges and winners over last season and so far this campaign? You can see all the Bronze Helmet results from 1948 to the present day, (plus Gold & Silver Helmets data,) including this season's NL winners on the 'British MRC' page of the Speedway Champions website. Helmet match races were keenly anticipated back in the 60's, all the shine has now gone and where have the original helmets gone? As regards the last trophy helmets, we know where the GH went (the Jansson family,); on the same webpage as given above you can see the last purpose-made Silver Helmet, (1990 NL,) posed today on a lounge table somewhere north of the border,); one early Silver Sash (also shown) is now in the Channel Isles and another (or 2) are in Scotland. But as they became no more than functional commercial helmets sprayed according to division, - Gold, Silver or Bronze - , I guess they've got repainted at the end of each season by the recipient and put to standard use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinuteWarning Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Can anyone help update the 2014 Bronze Helmet results and fill in the gaps? I have : 15.3 Devon S Lambert (Kent) beat L Smart (Devon) 6.4 Leicester S Lambert (Kent) beat J Serjeant (Leicester) 2.5 Coventry S Lambert (Kent) beat J Serjeant (Coventry) 3.5 Stoke B Wilson (Stoke) beat S Lambert (Kent) 4.5 Buxton B Wilson (Stoke) beat T Atkin (Buxton) 16.5 King's Lynn D Mallett (K Lynn) beat B Wilson (Stoke) 30.6 Kent B Morley (Kent) beat Marc Owen (K Lynn) 7.7 Kent S Lambert (Kent) beat Josh Bates (Mildenhall) 16.8 Stoke L Chessell (Devon) beat Jon Armstrong (Stoke) 3.9 K Lynn S Worrall (Cradley) beat Marc Owen (K Lynn) 30.9 Cradley S Worrall (Cradley) beat Daniel Halsey (Mildenhall) Edited October 25, 2014 by TwoMinuteWarning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I think it was Jul 5th Morley beat Widman Stoke v Kent (NLKOC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Can anyone help update the 2014 Bronze Helmet results and fill in the gaps? I have : 15.3 Devon S Lambert (Kent) beat L Smart (Devon) 6.4 Leicester S Lambert (Kent) beat J Serjeant (Leicester) 2.5 Coventry S Lambert (Kent) beat J Serjeant (Coventry) 3.5 Stoke B Wilson (Stoke) beat S Lambert (Kent) 4.5 Buxton B Wilson (Stoke) beat T Atkin (Buxton) 16.5 King's Lynn D Mallett (K Lynn) beat B Wilson (Stoke) 30.6 Kent B Morley (Kent) beat Marc Owen (K Lynn) 7.7 Kent S Lambert (Kent) beat Josh Bates (Mildenhall) 16.8 Stoke L Chessell (Devon) beat Jon Armstrong (Stoke) 3.9 K Lynn S Worrall (Cradley) beat Marc Owen (K Lynn) 30.9 Cradley S Worrall (Cradley) beat Daniel Halsey (Mildenhall) 5.10Paul Starke beat Joe Jacobs at Mildenhall Edited October 25, 2014 by martin_t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmet Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 2MinWg:. . . . You've a few that I haven't, and I a few you're missing. Put them together ( mine with @'s ) and I get this, - noting that there were several intended that were lost to curfews, eg July 11th & 14th. . 5.3 Devon S Lambert (Kent) beat L Smart (Devon) 6.4 Leicester S Lambert (Kent) beat J Serjeant (Leicester) 2.5 Coventry S Lambert (Kent) beat J Serjeant (Coventry) 3.5 Stoke B Wilson (Stoke) beat S Lambert (Kent) 4.5 Buxton B Wilson (Stoke) beat T Atkin (Buxton) 16.5 K. Lynn D Mallett (K Lynn) beat B Wilson (Stoke) 30.6 Kent B Morley (Kent) bt Marc Owen (K Lynn) 5.7 @Stoke: Ben Morley (Kent) bt. C.Widman (Stoke) 6.7 @Mldhll: Joe Jacobs(Mldhll) bt. Ben Morley (Kent) 7.7 Kent S Lambert (Kent) bt Josh Bates (Mildenhall) 4.8 @Kent: *J.Armstrong(Stoke) bt. Dave Mason (Kent) 16.8 Stoke L Chessell (Devon) bt Jon Armstrong (Stoke) 2.9 @ Crad/Wtn: Steve Worrall bt. Luke Chessell (Devon) 3.9 K Lynn S Worrall (Cradley) bt Marc Owen (K Lynn) 9.9 @ Crad/Wtn: S.Worrall (Cradley) bt. Jon Sargeant (Cov.II) 30.9 Cradley S Worrall (Cradley) bt Daniel Halsey (Mildenhall) . I can't reconcile a Starke v. Jacobs at Mildenhall in May, - ? ? . What might appear as anomalies, - where's Mallet's 'loss'? He was R/R'd in mtg of June 30th, - and Jacobs 'loss'? He was riding EL at W'ton on 7th July. . With these explanations the trail is continuous. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_t Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 2MinWg:. . . . You've a few that I haven't, and I a few you're missing.Put them together ( mine with @'s ) and I get this, - noting that there were several intended that were lost to curfews, eg July 11th & 14th..5.3 Devon S Lambert (Kent) beat L Smart (Devon)6.4 Leicester S Lambert (Kent) beat J Serjeant (Leicester)2.5 Coventry S Lambert (Kent) beat J Serjeant (Coventry)3.5 Stoke B Wilson (Stoke) beat S Lambert (Kent)4.5 Buxton B Wilson (Stoke) beat T Atkin (Buxton)16.5 K. Lynn D Mallett (K Lynn) beat B Wilson (Stoke)30.6 Kent B Morley (Kent) bt Marc Owen (K Lynn)5.7 @Stoke: Ben Morley (Kent) bt. C.Widman (Stoke)6.7 @Mldhll: Joe Jacobs(Mldhll) bt. Ben Morley (Kent)7.7 Kent S Lambert (Kent) bt Josh Bates (Mildenhall)4.8 @Kent: *J.Armstrong(Stoke) bt. Dave Mason (Kent)16.8 Stoke L Chessell (Devon) bt Jon Armstrong (Stoke)2.9 @ Crad/Wtn: Steve Worrall bt. Luke Chessell (Devon)3.9 K Lynn S Worrall (Cradley) bt Marc Owen (K Lynn)9.9 @ Crad/Wtn: S.Worrall (Cradley) bt. Jon Sargeant (Cov.II)30.9 Cradley S Worrall (Cradley) bt Daniel Halsey (Mildenhall).I can't reconcile a Starke v. Jacobs at Mildenhall in May, - ? ?.What might appear as anomalies, - where's Mallet's 'loss'? He was R/R'd in mtg of June 30th,- and Jacobs 'loss'? He was riding EL at W'ton on 7th July..With these explanations the trail is continuous...sorry Starkie beat Jacobs on 5th October.at Mildenhall Steve Worrall wasn't there to defend it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmet Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) sorry Starkie beat Jacobs on 5th October.at Mildenhall Steve Worrall wasn't there to defend it. Thanks for that Martin. I do feel that little capital is made of this event, little coverage or mention made in mtg previews or match reports, which could otherwise benefit the sport (sic) - which it definitely needs! . . Witness this current thread, i.e. the difficulty in finding/following the championship! With several Bronze Helmet MRCs lost this season, both to weather, (when for match-by-match challenges will always be last race of the night,) and today's scourge, the Curfew, it demonstrates the counter-arguments to last season's discussions (2013, above.) Mr. M must surely consider re-introducing nominated challenges, monthly or twice-monthly, for 2015, when they'd be first on the programme. Then, unlike this season, promoters will know its coming, and therefore can hype it up for the benefit of their gate, (an aspect they've previously ignored.) British MRCs, - Gold, Silver, Bronze . . Edited October 26, 2014 by britmet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Shaleman Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 . Thanks for that Martin. I do feel that little capital is made of this event, little coverage or mention made in mtg previews or match reports, which could otherwise benefit the sport (sic) - which it definitely needs! . . Witness this current thread, i.e. the difficulty in finding/following the championship! With several Bronze Helmet MRCs lost this season, both to weather, (when for match-by-match challenges will always be last race of the night,) and today's scourge, the Curfew, it demonstrates the counter-arguments to last season's discussions (2013, above.) Mr. M must surely consider re-introducing nominated challenges, monthly or twice-monthly, for 2015, when they'd be first on the programme. Then, unlike this season, promoters will know its coming, and therefore can hype it up for the benefit of their gate, (an aspect they've previously ignored.) British MRCs, - Gold, Silver, Bronze . . National League probably needs a better title for the match-race championship. Bronze Helmet doesn't set the pulse racing like the thought of the Golden Helmet MRC championship coming to your track in 60s/70s. I can't think of a new title at the moment but something that sounds great is needed. Agree totally about tracks needing to know if they will have the championship (or not) - for publicity reasons alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinuteWarning Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) 15.3 Devon S Lambert (Kent) beat L Smart (Devon) 6.4 Leicester S Lambert (Kent) beat J Serjeant (Leicester) 2.5 Coventry S Lambert (Kent) beat J Serjeant (Coventry) 3.5 Stoke B Wilson (Stoke) beat S Lambert (Kent) 4.5 Buxton B Wilson (Stoke) beat T Atkin (Buxton) 16.5 K. Lynn D Mallett (K Lynn) beat B Wilson (Stoke) 30.6 Kent B Morley (Kent) bt Marc Owen (K Lynn) 5.7 @Stoke: Ben Morley (Kent) bt. C.Widman (Stoke) 6.7 @Mldhll: Joe Jacobs(Mldhll) bt. Ben Morley (Kent) 7.7 Kent S Lambert (Kent) bt Josh Bates (Mildenhall) 4.8 @Kent: *J.Armstrong(Stoke) bt. Dave Mason (Kent) 16.8 Stoke L Chessell (Devon) bt Jon Armstrong (Stoke) 2.9 @ Crad/Wtn: Steve Worrall bt. Luke Chessell (Devon) 3.9 K Lynn S Worrall (Cradley) bt Marc Owen (K Lynn) 9.9 @ Crad/Wtn: S.Worrall (Cradley) bt. James Sargeant (Cov.II) 30.9 Cradley S Worrall (Cradley) bt Daniel Halsey (Mildenhall) 5.10 Mildenhall P Starke (Cradley) bt Joe Jacobs (Mildenhall) Many thanks for all the help The above now seems to be complete to mid-October. 2 races were cancelled due to meetings being abandoned (30.3 Scunny and 23.9 Cradley) 4 races were cancelled due to curfews (12.5 Kent, 11.7 Devon, 29.8 & 26.9 Coventry) Paul Starke was due to defend the Helmet 21.10 at Cradley (the play-off Final), can't see any record of him having done that. If successful, he would have ridden again at King's Lynn 22.10. Have to say that this is an official NL competition, and as such results should appear on the BSPA website. P.S Sorry to change the subject but - did Cradley ever ride the 2nd Leg of the National Shield at King's Lynn? Edited October 26, 2014 by TwoMinuteWarning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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