pandorum Posted July 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) Russia in tatters by all accounts due to their version of the BSPA. The SWC needs to sort this out as a country who could have won the competition practically pull out because of money matters. We had/have the same problem and it makes speedways best competition look really Mickey Mouse. Not that the idea that the Czechs will be 4th in the world helps it particularly giving them a seeding they don't deserve . Edited July 7, 2013 by pandorum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Russia in tatters by all accounts due to their version of the BSPA. The SWC needs to sort this out as a country who could have won the competition practically pull out because of money matters. We had/have the same problem and it makes speedways best competition look really Mickey Mouse. What it needs is for decent prize money to be paid by IMG and then the National authorities might be able to hand out some decent money to those taking part. The prizes for the World Cup are a joke. With the Czechs seeded to the Final and Emil not racing probably the Russians were probably looking at 5th place at best. That would give them a prize of US$14,000, or €10,900 at current exchange rates. Out of that they have to pay for their own tyres at €65 each. Using a new tyre each race would set them back €2,600 for the 2 meetings. So they are now down to €8,300 for the team. Out of that €8,300, or €2,075 each assuming the same 4 riders race both meetings and the team manager isn't taking any payment, they have to pay their own travel expenses and accommodation costs, plus pay their mechanics and their accommodation costs...That's before even considering any expenses for the machinery being used... How the hell are they supposed to make any money out of that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 It's clearly an incentive to get other countries to stage it other than Poland, Sweden, England and Denmark. The big argument was always how do you sell a race off and final without the host nation likely to be in the final, the new seeding host to final gets by that. And had the SWC been held at the new Belle Vue as planned Team GB were going to make ample use of the ruling. And will, of course, if when it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 What it needs is for decent prize money to be paid by IMG and then the National authorities might be able to hand out some decent money to those taking part. The prizes for the World Cup are a joke. With the Czechs seeded to the Final and Emil not racing probably the Russians were probably looking at 5th place at best. That would give them a prize of US$14,000, or €10,900 at current exchange rates. Out of that they have to pay for their own tyres at €65 each. Using a new tyre each race would set them back €2,600 for the 2 meetings. So they are now down to €8,300 for the team. Out of that €8,300, or €2,075 each assuming the same 4 riders race both meetings and the team manager isn't taking any payment, they have to pay their own travel expenses and accommodation costs, plus pay their mechanics and their accommodation costs...That's before even considering any expenses for the machinery being used... How the hell are they supposed to make any money out of that? Exactly it's insane. I don't blame the lads. The millionaires that play football for England don't work for free or have to pay for their hotel so why should the riders. Someone must make a profit out of this week of speedway so why should those that make it a great event have to beg for scraps to make ends meet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 BSI/IMG pay the FIM, who determine the prize money. Each federation is responsible for its own team. If the federations think more should be coming back from the FIM then they are in a position to lobby for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 BSI/IMG pay the FIM, who determine the prize money. Each federation is responsible for its own team. If the federations think more should be coming back from the FIM then they are in a position to lobby for that. Sounds great in principle but does not really stop speedways showcase competition collapsing into a farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 As reported on Polish TV yesterday the Laguta Brothers have pulled out from competing for Russia-Does Philip Rising know the latest situation ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 I REPORTED in Speedway Star after the Gorzow SGP that Emil Sayfutdinov and the Laguta brothers were in dispute with the Russian federation and unlikely to ride. Apparently they get absolutely no help in any shape or form from their own federation so I can only suppose that they have carried out their threat along with Emil, who has a legitimate injury although not one that would stop him racing in an SGP round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 (edited) Emil and the Laguta's should be ashamed of themselves.. They earn hundreds of thousands in Poland and Sweden. They are riding for their country, Not their federation. If I was a Russian speedway fan, I wouldn't allow Emil or the Laguta's to ever step foot in a speedway stadium in Russia... I regard this as treason. I feel so bad for the Russian fans who had a genuine chance of an SWC win which would have been historic for their country. Edited July 8, 2013 by THJ Racing Fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Emil and the Laguta's should be ashamed of themselves.. They earn hundreds of thousands in Poland and Sweden. They are riding for their country, Not their federation. If I was a Russian speedway fan, I wouldn't allow Emil or the Laguta's to ever step foot in a speedway stadium in Russia... I regard this as treason. I feel so bad for the Russian fans who had a genuine chance of an SWC win which would have been historic for their country. EASY for you to say. If true they obviously feel that they have to make a stand and to get their federation to help not just themselves in SWC events, which are supposed to be funded by the federations not the riders, but also the many (according to Emil) young riders in Russia who are battling to make it without any assistance at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) EASY for you to say. If true they obviously feel that they have to make a stand and to get their federation to help not just themselves in SWC events, which are supposed to be funded by the federations not the riders, but also the many (according to Emil) young riders in Russia who are battling to make it without any assistance at all. Echo Phil completely! It's the same in the UK when riders refused to ride for Team GB. How can it be treason if they fight to get better conditions not only for themselves but those that follow them. Russia has a golden opportunity to win the SWC but needs to take the competition seriously and fund it's riders. The England football team don't pay for their own expenses and they could not win a tournement if they were the only team in it I doubt Riders earn as much as you say because of the expense of the sport at the top level so Emil and Co are hardly millionaires like our worthless footballers. They have put up with the Russian Federations incompetence before and have decided to say 'enough'. That is a principled stand rather than treachery. We in the UK would not have the freedoms we enjoy today if people had not stood up and been counted. Were they traitors? Rights are fought for never given and speedway riders have the right to expect that when they represent their country their governing body should show more than a mild interest. Edited July 9, 2013 by pandorum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Speedway riders have the right to expect that when they represent their country their governing body should show more than a mild interest. Indeed, nobody can accuse the BSPA of not encouraging the GB team can they. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) They are riding for their country, Not their federation. No. They are representing the Russian Federation. The MFR. Not Russia. . Edited July 9, 2013 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 So when England are at a world cup, they are representing the FA and not the country. What nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I told you a fact. About Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Does it matter WHO they are representing. The fact remains that they deserve to not incur a whole lot of expense while they are doing it. Surely they have a right to expect that they come out in the plus column after riding for their country. None of you sure as hell would not risk your life for nothing so why should they. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) Does it matter WHO they are representing. The fact remains that they deserve to not incur a whole lot of expense while they are doing it. Surely they have a right to expect that they come out in the plus column after riding for their country. None of you sure as hell would not risk your life for nothing so why should they. Yes, enormously. It is only the FMN that receives the prize money. And it is only from them that riders are paid. In the case of the Russian team they will be paid by the MFR. And it is them who decide how much they are paid. Emil and the others HAVE to do battle with the MFR. There is no one else. Edited July 9, 2013 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 And is this on Sky or Eurosport?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 And is this on Sky or Eurosport?? Eurosport sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Glad Eurosport have got it as coverage has been very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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