Grand Central Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 The last couple of posts are probably spot on. It will all come down to what Tomasz and Greg want to do themselves. If they finish outside the top.8 of course they would get a wildcard if they wanted one. Can you imagine the bizarre situation of these two giants starting to go though the 2014 qualifying rounds because they still had the desire. And yet had been denied a Wildcard in favour of Chris Harris! No one at BSI or the FIM are that stupid. Are they? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Think the sad thing is that with the exception of 1 or 2 maximum, there aren't really any young guys coming through the ranks that can consistently match this pair... Is that a fantastic commendation to TG and GH for their outstanding performances meeting on meeting or a sad endigtment of the state of world speedway when we're still probably 3 or 4 years away from seeing the next breed of riders to match this pair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) THE big question is what else would they do? Cannot see Gollob going into media, for example, and both he and Greg genuinely love riding bikes. Would they get wild card picks if outside the top eight? Surely if they finish outside of the top 8, and they still want to ride in the GP's, a series Wildcard is a given? After seeing some of the crap riders they've given full time slots to over the years (Harris' unprecedented charity springs to mind) riders with the records of Gollob and Hancock would surely be certain to receive a place? As it is, I think one or both will retire with dignity anyway. Lindback aside, this is such a strong GP year (strongest by far for years), anybody who doesn't qualify by right would have a good shout for a wild card next year. JT. Edited July 4, 2013 by JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Both have been world champion within the last 3 seasons so they would surely get a wild card. But in some ways that would be a poor call as they are both on the downgrade due to age. Would it be a shame to see performance go further downhill. Gollob gives up when he is behind and only rarely shows his old brilliance whilst Hancock rides with his head and doesn't get mixed up with the younger lads who ride flat out 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Surely if they finish outside of the top 8, and they still want to ride in the GP's, a series Wildcard is a given? After seeing some of the crap riders they've given full time slots to over the years (Harris' unprecedented charity springs to mind) riders with the records of Gollob and Hancock would surely be certain to receive a place? As it is, I think one or both will retire with dignity anyway. Lindback aside, this is such a strong GP year (strongest by far for years), anybody who doesn't qualify by right would have a good shout for a wild card next year. JT. Therein lies the problem 3 are going to go to be replaced by the top 3 in the challenge final-best result from that would be for Zagar and NKI to finish in the top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 The young guns are coming through.... but after swapping everyones engines around a little I wonder if they are coming through at a faster rate than before? The old boys have kept on top of their machinery for years now and this is the first year in a very long time where that isnt happening. Greg, Tomasz & Nicki clearly are struggling to find the right engines and setup, but as fast as Tai & Emil can find their incredible machinery, so can the old boys and everything could change again next season. I'm still seeing the same old hunger in Greg & Nicki but I question how much fight there is left in AJ & Tomasz. It speaks volumes for me that Gollob is only riding in one league. He cant be needing the money that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthebuilder Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 Both Greg and Tomasz have a lot to offer the GP scene.The one thing that constantly niggles me, is both are referred to by their ages by the commentators,oldest men in the field etc etc. The constant how much longer can you go on is being disrespectful to both who remain world class speedway riders.Yes they're not getting the results like before but irrespective of age they are more than worthy of remaining in the series. Greg and Tomasz may well go out over the next couple of years,so lets enjoy them whilst they're still around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 The constant how much longer can you go on is being disrespectful to both who remain world class speedway riders.Yes they're not getting the results like before but irrespective of age they are more than worthy of remaining in the series.You've got it the wrong way around. The refering to their ages is pointing out how they're doing a great job at their ages. Lets be honest, most riders at there age have dropped of the proverbial cliff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 In my opinion both Hancock and Gollob have been great servants of the GPs. They are STILL competitive, and surely that is the main criteria. I think BOTH of them could have at least one more GP win left in the tank. I certainly hope they do anyway - they are still great to watch. The Sport of Speedway will be a lesser Sport when they do eventually retire. :sad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneylegend Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Both massive speedway heros of mine although theyre not currently top of their game i hope we have a few more years to watch them Yet!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised to see Gollob retire at the end of this season. I think he was going to either retire from the GPs or from speedway at the end of last season but changed his mind at the last minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised to see Gollob retire at the end of this season. I think he was going to either retire from the GPs or from speedway at the end of last season but changed his mind at the last minute. NOT true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 NOT true... But was it not said that Gollob was going to make a big announcement but it never happened?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 NOT that I know about. Spoke to both Gollob and his manager and at the end of last season several times and far from retiring he was fired up about another season. Both he and Hancock still love racing speedway bikes and as long as they feel they are competitive will probably continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Probably Mr Pearson and Mr Tatum talking nonsense as usual, as I think they may have mentioned something about it during one of the GPs last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Definitely then if Tantrum was involved!! Gollob definitely, is tied in with sponsors so will be around for a couple of seasons yet... With Hancock sponsored by the same major sponsor then as long as he's got the hunger then I don't see either of them bowing out short term... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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