michaelcroucher Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 On Sat I took my wife to her first Grasstack meeting near Wimborne. We went for the weekend and stayed there camping. The sun was out and great racing for 2 day. The best thing about it, it only cost me £30 for the 2 of us and that was with camping. Lots of racing and my wife said she would go to another one. If we went to a league meeting of speedway it would of cost just a bit more and not so much racing. My wife said as someone like herself not really into bikes grasstrack was fantastic. We got to go away people were a lot friendlier than at speedway. She can’t wait to go to the next meeting. So to weigh it all up grasstrack is better value for money than speedway. It looks like less speedway meetings for me and more grasstrack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 I wouldn't argue with your basic premise, but my two immediate questions would be: Who won? And did you care? I've been to grasstrack and it's certainly a spectacle. But after the sixth or seventh race, I found it all a bit ho-hum unless I knew any of the riders involved. I enjoy the odd speedway meeting as a neutral, but am only really engaged when supporting one of the teams involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 i went to quite a bit of grasstrack in its heyday of the 1980's, at top venues like silverstone, the NEC, collier street, andover and the superb lydden hill. these events were okay as a one off but not something i could do on a regular basis. one of my mates still goes, but said the standard has declined in recent years. which is no suprise when the likes of the great simon wigg are no longer with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Surely it is just because you have overkilled speedway with your cyfra card.Watching every meeting you can amd then grasstrack just seems something different?Tbh grasstrack is just the same 10 or 20 riders all the time.No real variety,just a bit different once in a while.But no-one can really argue against your point.Value for money is an individual thing and if you want to see more grasstrack because the people are friendlier etc then so be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 There's no professional grasstrack league where you support a team, totally different sport and if you're only gonna support grasstrack you won't see many meetings in a season .................. I guess you won't get bored of it though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) I wouldn't argue with your basic premise, but my two immediate questions would be: Who won? And did you care? I've been to grasstrack and it's certainly a spectacle. But after the sixth or seventh race, I found it all a bit ho-hum unless I knew any of the riders involved. I enjoy the odd speedway meeting as a neutral, but am only really engaged when supporting one of the teams involved. The mind-set of watching grass track is very different to speedway. You must put aside any concept of comparing it to speedway. Grass track racing is an individual competitor sport not running as does speedway to team competition. At grass track the enjoyment comes from following the performance os one rider (or maybe a sidecar pairing). The interest then comes from following the results of your selection during the meeting - and at any further meetings you attend where "your favourite" is in action. Aside from that, many speedway people say they cannot understand "stock car" racing. As with grass track racing you need to have a formula you will enjoy watch - either contact on non contact - and identify with just one driver (best taken from the higher grade performers who are identified in the programme. If you attend a grass track meeting without having a particular rider to follow then it's no more than a lot of guys going very fast and spectacularly - no more than that. But to have a link to one or a couple of performers means that it is possible to gain much enjoyment from the racing proceedings. Edited July 3, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelcroucher Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 The thing I was trying to get across was not that grasstrack is better than speedway but value for money. I wouldnt go week in week out but when money is hard for some poeple then grasstrack is great for a weekend away and some action. Yesterday the racing was great and i know what you are saying about the simon wiggs. I can remeber the days when you had quite a few top speeway riders racing grasstrack but now only a few. But the topic is about value for money. You can pay £30 for a speedway meeting a see some great racing but you can pay £30 for a weekend and see some great racing to. Regards to who one and did i care well of course and i didnt know any rider. I dont know what you mean about the cyfra+ card, and with no variety then you must be silly. Well im glad that i dont listern to most people on here because you have your views and i have mine. I still think for £30 for a weekend of good racing is still money saving. The way i see it i still can get to see some great racing and save moeny. the money i save means i can go aborad and see some the big meetings like the World cup and GP. If went to speedway meetings in this country all the time i couldnt go abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 There's no professional grasstrack league where you support a team, totally different sport and if you're only gonna support grasstrack you won't see many meetings in a season .................. I guess you won't get bored of it though! The thing I was trying to get across was not that grasstrack is better than speedway but value for money. I wouldnt go week in week out but when money is hard for some poeple then grasstrack is great for a weekend away and some action. Yesterday the racing was great and i know what you are saying about the simon wiggs. I can remeber the days when you had quite a few top speeway riders racing grasstrack but now only a few. But the topic is about value for money. You can pay £30 for a speedway meeting a see some great racing but you can pay £30 for a weekend and see some great racing to. Regards to who one and did i care well of course and i didnt know any rider. I dont know what you mean about the cyfra+ card, and with no variety then you must be silly. Well im glad that i dont listern to most people on here because you have your views and i have mine. I still think for £30 for a weekend of good racing is still money saving. The way i see it i still can get to see some great racing and save moeny. the money i save means i can go aborad and see some the big meetings like the World cup and GP. If went to speedway meetings in this country all the time i couldnt go abroad. This is a fixture list for forthcoming grass track meetings. Have fun! http://www.grasstrack.net/grassfixtures.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Like i said each to their own.What you find vfm others won't.I certainly wouldn't want to travel to see for instance yesterdays meeting here where there were only 6 riders in the top class racing 5 heats against each other and the 1 rider won all 5 heats and 1 rider finished last in most and 1 rider finished 4th in most.No variety as it is the same riders most times finishing in the top 3.Same with the sidecar comps or junior comps.Pretty much same top 3 every meeting.Ok maybe once a season,but i couldn't be asked to watch that week in week out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 I value our league structure and will always attend league racing as opposed to GP or SWC racing. Without league racing and clubs riders would not reach GP or SWC level! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 I value our league structure and will always attend league racing as opposed to GP or SWC racing. Without league racing and clubs riders would not reach GP or SWC level! I think someone has staggered into the wrong thread. The direction of the 'anti-BSI ranting section' is clearly signposted. As you well know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 I value our league structure and will always attend league racing as opposed to GP or SWC racing. Without league racing and clubs riders would not reach GP or SWC level! I think someone has staggered into the wrong thread. The direction of the 'anti-BSI ranting section' is clearly signposted. As you well know. This does indeed seem a long way from why a forum member likes grass track racing. However, I am sure there is a fuller reason for the original message - it was not quite clarified perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 This does indeed seem a long way from why a forum member likes grass track racing. However, I am sure there is a fuller reason for the original message - it was not quite clarified perhaps? Yes there is, its because she is a half wit who no one takes any notice of. She can get her anti BSI/GP bile into any thread. Best just to ignore her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 I went to a grass track meeting about 5 years ago. An OK afternon out but frankly, the racing was non-existant. Paul hurry and Andrew Appleton shot off for wins while some no hoper rolled around at the back all well spread out. The novelty wore off after about 12 heats and I couldn't wait to go home. Not for me, not even if it was a fiver if I'm honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Oldace is rather rude isn't he B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Oldace is rather rude isn't he B-) Old, rude and a waste of space, Trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) Getting back to the point of the thread I used to go to grasstracks back in the day when motorcycling was the major part of my life, and yes. it is a good day out IMO but speedway is a different ball game with its teams, points and leagues. Its not a question of one being better than the other they are just different and each have their own attractive qualities. The point that I think needs to be made is that grass-track, like speedway, is struggling, and they are not the only outdoor spectator sports in that situation. That indicates to me that some of speedways problems (and I am not saying all) are outside the control of the BSPA and are indicative of a changing society. So in answer to the point of the thread, yes, grass-track is goes value for money for those who enjoy it, but reducing speedways admission to £10 or any of those puerile suggestions we keep getting on threads here is not going to transform speedway. The problems are much deeper than that and there is no easy answer. Edited July 2, 2013 by E I Addio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 Getting back to the point of the thread I used to go to grasstracks back in the day when motorcycling was the major part of my life, and yes. it is a good day out IMO but speedway is a different ball game with its teams, points and leagues. Its not a question of one being better than the other they are just different and each have their own attractive qualities. The point that I think needs to be made is that grass-track, like speedway, is struggling, and they are not the only outdoor spectator sports in that situation. That indicates to me that some of speedways problems (and I am not saying all) are outside the control of the BSPA and are indicative of a changing society. So in answer to the point of the thread, yes, grass-track is goes value for money for those who enjoy it, but reducing speedways admission to £10 or any of those puerile suggestions we keep getting on threads here is not going to transform speedway. The problems are much deeper than that and there is no easy answer. I must endorse much of what you say - especially the sections of your post which I have highlighted. Yes, times are changing and society generally is moving on to new fields of entertainment. Sadly, for us, speedway is among those who are and WILL suffer from this change of attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 The mind-set of watching grass track is very different to speedway. You must put aside any concept of comparing it to speedway. Grass track racing is an individual competitor sport not running as does speedway to team competition. At grass track the enjoyment comes from following the performance os one rider (or maybe a sidecar pairing). The interest then comes from following the results of your selection during the meeting - and at any further meetings you attend where "your favourite" is in action. If you attend a grass track meeting without having a particular rider to follow then it's n more than a lot of guys going very fast and spectacularly - no more than that. But to have a link to one or a couple of performers means that it is possible to gain much enjoyment from the racing proceedings. Well, yes, that's what I said the first time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Well, yes, that's what I said the first time! I thought I'd read it before. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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