PHILIPRISING Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 THERE is prize money in the SWC. As previously stated, the Swedes split it amongst their squad. The better the team performs the more money they get. I am not suggesting it is a fortune, it clearly isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Nicholls refused to ride didn't he? Where's his pride in riding for his country? For how many years has Nicholls given his all fot the GB cause? This year Nicholls wanted to enter the FIM European Championships, and at €500 per point before prize money who could blame him? A nice little earner in the twilight of his career. The BSPA threatened to ban him if he took part. That's their thanks for putting his body on the line for the GB cause all those years. That's why he told the BSPA to stick it. I for one don't blame him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 THERE is prize money in the SWC. As previously stated, the Swedes split it amongst their squad. The better the team performs the more money they get. I am not suggesting it is a fortune, it clearly isn't. And quite right, so there should be Phil. enough to cover expences and a decent bit on top. Marky is quite right, you work hard to get to the top of your profession, and it doesn't come easy in any sport, you should be rewarded accordinly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorset delight Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I really hope the Middlo does quit the job because whoever takes over we can all pick holes in them whoever it may be.Because one thing is certain we only have one world class rider in Woofy the rest are just not up to it,Harsh but true but they are the facts. Let's have Rosco,Morris or whoever take over, the end result will be the same.There have been a lot names bandied about who should have ridden last night,any quartet would have struggled last night.I don't see that Bridger and Barker will make a great difference come Thurs and then it will be why did Middlo pick them. If we are not careful we are going to go the way the Usa team have been for a few years now.Because the way i see it the only way we are going to be in the world cup final is if we are the host nation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) I really hope the Middlo does quit the job because whoever takes over we can all pick holes in them whoever it may be.Because one thing is certain we only have one world class rider in Woofy the rest are just not up to it,Harsh but true but they are the facts. Let's have Rosco,Morris or whoever take over, the end result will be the same.There have been a lot names bandied about who should have ridden last night,any quartet would have struggled last night.I don't see that Bridger and Barker will make a great difference come Thurs and then it will be why did Middlo pick them. If we are not careful we are going to go the way the Usa team have been for a few years now.Because the way i see it the only way we are going to be in the world cup final is if we are the host nation. I see absolutely no reason why Neil should quit, but you are right. But you try explaining that to some on here, they suddenly cop a deafn. Must be a Poole thing... Edited July 16, 2013 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) NOT I am not. I said quite clearly that his injury is genuine. But he had previously intimated that he, like the Laguta brothers, would not ride as a protest against the Russian federation. As things turned out he did not need to secure a dubious medical certificate which is what, I am led to believe, has happened with Grigorii and Artem who both rode in Sweden last Tuesday. Well you did and you didn't you clearly said the Lagutas were drumming up excuses not to ride in the meeting and Emil was drumming up a medical certificate. You made a nudge nudge insinuation. Why would he have had to secure a 'dubious' medical certificate when he had a broken foot? So you are now saying the Laguta's secured dubious medical certificates but it was announced on July 7th on Polish TV that they were not riding in protest at the lack of funding. Seems a bit insane when everybody knew they were not riding and the reason for it. Did Scott Nicholls have to get one to commentate for Eurosport? Because he did the same as the Laguta's and was not in the England team. YOU are missing out the bit where BSI/IMG pay the FIM a considerable sum of money for the commercial rights and to provide the prize money. So What? I once bought a watch in George at ASDA! Edited July 16, 2013 by pandorum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Are you thick. Ive already explained it was a farce meeting. What was his first score at Brandon for Peterborough?? A "farce" meeting, Stop embarrassing yourself. Regardless of whether it's a "farce" meeting, It still requires huge skill to score a maximum and even more skill to score a maximum in tricky conditions that don't allow passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 No you didn't you clearly said the Lagutas were drumming up excuses not to ride in the meeting and Emil was drumming up a medical certificate. Why would he have had to secure a dubious medical certificate when he had a broken foot? So you are now saying the Laguta's secured dubious medical certificates but it was announced on July 7th on Polish TV that they were not riding in protest at the lack of funding. Seems a bit insane when everybody knew they were not riding and the reason for it. I thought the Laguta brothers situation was clear, much in the same way as Emil wouldn't have rode if he was fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 THE difference between Emil and the Laguta brothers as against Scott Nicholls is that Scott was never chosen and named in the GB team whereas Emil, Grigorii and Artem were selected and in the Russian team provided to the FIM. The only way they could 'legitimately' withdraw without consequences was to have a medical certificate stating that they were unfit to compete. Pandorum ... you need to read what I actually wrote. Emil did not have to fabricate a medical certificate but, had he not broken his foot, I have no doubt that he would gone down the same route as his Russian colleagues. There is no bigger fan of Emil than I, he is an absolute pleasure to watch and work with, but the FIM need to step in and sort out the situation regarding the Russian federation and their riders. The Czestochowa promoter says that he lost at least 5,000 fans when Emil dropped out of the opening SWC round and a few thousand more when Grigorii and Artem followed suit. He said that the Russians would have got bigger support there than the Poles. Then, of course, Tomasz Gollob also pulled out with a 'bad back.' Finally, uk martin, I think the 500 euros a point plus prize money you quote for the European Championship is way off beam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I see absolutely no reason why Neil should quit, but you are right. But you try explaining that to some on here, they suddenly cop a deafn. Must be a Poole thing... Middleditch has proved himself to be a decent manager at club and international level,I dont see Rossitor or Havelock or anyone else for that matter getting more from the riders selected,no matter who they are. Lets face it,things could get worse before they get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Serves the Czechstowa promoter right for funding the BSI. An organisation that's killing league racing all over Europe, The GP series is a parasite living off the league's. Edited July 16, 2013 by THJ Racing Fans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 It was 7. It was 2. August 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Serves the Czechstowa promoter right for funding the BSI. An organisation that's killing league racing all over Europe, The GP series is a parasite living off the league's. Or are most leagues doing well & the British League continually shoots itself in the foot & therefore struggling? Think the Poles, Swedes, Danes & Czechs are quite happy with how their leagues are doing. Edited July 16, 2013 by Tex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Or are most leagues doing well & the British League continually shoots itself in the foot & therefore struggling? Think the Poles, Swedes, Danes & Czechs are quite happy with how their leagues are doing. Both in Poland and Sweden their are riders being owed tons of money, Zagar's owed thousands by his club Gzieno Swedish speedway is in a major mess, They have no talent coming through Danish and Czech league isn't taken seriously by anyone, no TV station broadcasts it and Kanal sport show Danish league meetings for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 That is down to Economic conditions and bad money management, nothing to do with BSI & the GPs. There are many football & Rugby clubs that are in debt and owning players money - is that BSI's fault too? No it's cos they tried to buy success and the sums didnt add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 It is their fault, They are leeching off the leagues rather than paying their own way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Middleditch has proved himself to be a decent manager at club and international level,I dont see Rossitor or Havelock or anyone else for that matter getting more from the riders selected,no matter who they are. Lets face it,things could get worse before they get better. Thank you. Top post.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 It is their fault, They are leeching off the leagues rather than paying their own way Excellent reply. You win the argument bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Finally, uk martin, I think the 500 euros a point plus prize money you quote for the European Championship is way off beam. You may find it hard to believe because you are used to the twopence ha'penny prize money in this country but this has a Polish promotions company with Polish and other European sponsorship and TV deals. It's serious money over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Cook having a go at barker on twitter?? Surely he can't be blaming barker for his poor performance on Monday?? Or that he's been dropped?? Rather arrogant and bitter really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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