Swc, Event Two, King's Lynn 15/7

[Starman2006]

Starman, you are clearly not for real. I give you a reasoned argument to all the points you raise and you still say I have not read your posts.

 

So just to make it clear for you.

 

I (and I suspect most posters on here) do not believe we either had the strength in depth to compete with the Danes or were ever likely to beat them tonight no matter what team we put out.

 

However that does not mean that we cannot criticise what was clearly a poor decision by the team manager to include Edward Kennett.

 

Do you understand now?

 

You have spent the last I don't know how many posts defending Middleditch but when I ask a reasonable question about how he could possibly justify the selection of a rider in poor form domestically and limited international pedigree you reply with "Why don't you ask him?" Brilliant!

 

And you missed the bit convieniently, where i said, yes i know his form is not good and Neil was taking a chance and i thought Ben should get the chance,but Neil picks the team, not me you or anybody on here..

[Daniel Smith]

 

 

Yes i do agree with you. But if you take that approach then you will have the moaner police on here saying oh so and so was so far tailed off you need a pair of binoculars to see him, so, what are they supposed to do, ruin a riders confidence or take the flack from so called team managers on here?? Because the majority of our kids are way behind the Poles Danes and Aussies.

 

A rider only loses confidence from pressure. That's when good management comes into play. Arm round the shoulder or the bollocking in the bogs etc. You learn how rider's react from certain approaches from their own mental attitude. The problem with Middlo is he treats everybody the same regardless.

[Starman2006]

A rider only loses confidence from pressure. That's when good management comes into play. Arm round the shoulder or the bollocking in the bogs etc. You learn how rider's react from certain approaches from their own mental attitude. The problem with Middlo is he treats everybody the same regardless.

 

The problem is you can't turn average riders into world class riders. and putting an arm round them will not be enough if they continue to get tailed off, and you certainly can't give a kid a bollocking, otherwise if he wraps himself round an airfence it would be on your consience for the rest of your life. . And as i said, we are streets behind the Poles Danes and Aussies. So whats the answer?

[Animal]

From Lewis's website http://www.lewisbridger.com/news

[mdmc82]

 

 

It's not hindsight, look at his league form, you admit it's been poor. Why pick an out of form rider over others who are doing far better ?

 

All the team manager has done with his pick is ruin Kennett's confidence even more. He didn't even give him his 2nd ride. Bomber did well trying to pick the boy up but he was gone after that.

 

Going to make it hard for Swindon now as once Kennetts confidence drops, so do the scores.

Was good to see Harris doing a captains role & offering encoragement & support to Eddie.

Feel a big mistake was made putting Kennett in and it wasnt fair on him esp when Neil coukd see he was already struggling in the league let alone under the responsibility of the swc

[jimmy jimmy]

The BSPA need to get Cook, Worrall, Auty. Girls, Howarth more international experience and fast. Robert Lambert has more than those guys combined for Christ sake

[Haza]

The race off will be opertunuty missed we ain't going to beat the Aussies who I'd say almost certainly book there place in the final so rather than go down the Barker and Bridger route why not go with Woffinden Cook Worrrell Autey time to move on from riders who have failed in the past

[uk_martin]

Darcy Ward on twitter backed Middlo.

 

Says that Phil Morris should let Middlo run the side.

 

Middledick supported Ward after his criminal prosecution in Australia. Ward is now supporting Middledick after his criminal team selections. What else would you expect?

[castrolargh]

Poor form choice by Middlo (what does he do at Poole if Matt Ford picks the team ?) in picking Kennett. Hasn't scored many points in recent weeks, hardly won a heat.

 

Cook struggled but a tough call to drop him given his potential

 

3rd / 4th rider a toss up between Bridger as he's scoring loads of points or Barker who will give it his all.

Should have picked richie worrall for event 2, he has take some seriously big scalps around the NA recent weeks

[Woz01]

The race off will be opertunuty missed we ain't going to beat the Aussies who I'd say almost certainly book there place in the final so rather than go down the Barker and Bridger route why not go with Woffinden Cook Worrrell Autey time to move on from riders who have failed in the past

 

I think we can beat the Aussies,

 

Woffinden

Harris

Barker

Bridger

 

V

 

Ward

Batchelor

Doyle

Woodward

 

Those two teams are very even.

[Dornier]

Seeing as Muddlo had picked Kennett the least he could have done was given him a chance, it was too early to take him out after one ride, It was also a bad choice to put Woffy in his place on a Joker, Personally don`t think Muddlo has much idea he was very lucky the Joker came off. It was a shame the track was tricky early on think Cook would have done better but he obviously found it hard going. and I would have no problems if he was picked for the next round but Kennett has to go, should never have been picked but he`s one of Muddlo`s blue eyed boys..

Edited July 16, 2013 by dornier

[g13webb]

The BSPA need to get Cook, Worrall, Auty. Girls, Howarth more international experience and fast. Robert Lambert has more than those guys combined for Christ sake

Since when have the BSPA made the right decisions. I find all this talk of, this rider, or that rider, all quite tiresome and irrelevant . The bottom line is we are just not good enough. We don't encourage, development, we have no youth development or put any importance in a program of such. , we give no help at all and riders like Lambert has had to go abroad. We don't deserve success. If it wasn't for the other countries misfortunes, we wouldn't be in with a shout of sneaking in the back door. and until things change we will always be that way...

[salty]

Efforts are being made with the junior set up. Morris and Vatcher seem to have the attitude and determination to make a difference.

However, I would still argue that too many young Brits don't have the same drive to succeed as their counterparts in other countries.

We should be looking for every opportunity to give our youngsters experience abrad, but we costantly ignore the European championships and have only an ambivalent attitude towards the Under 21 events.

Was ridiculous that before his injury Garrity was not going to compete in under 21 qualifiers. Surely we should be looking to encourage the riders to get that type of experience. Perfect opportunity to give Cook a go on Thursday. Would surely pay off in the future.

 

 

[Gavan]

It's only Poole fans who can defend Middlo! The whole speedway world knew Kennett was the wrong choice except the manager! He needs to do the decent thing and step down. We get an up and coming rider like Cook and after one poor meeting on a crap track he is dropped! Poor poor management. Get Rosco in with Havvy alongside they can manage their clubs at the same time.

[LagutaRacingFan]

The question I ask

Regardless of the Edward Kennett selection, Did Team GB stand a chance of finishing ahead of Denmark?

 

The answer's no so Middlo has done the job he was expected to do.

[foreverblue]

It's only Poole fans who can defend Middlo! The whole speedway world knew Kennett was the wrong choice except the manager! He needs to do the decent thing and step down. We get an up and coming rider like Cook and after one poor meeting on a crap track he is dropped! Poor poor management. Get Rosco in with Havvy alongside they can manage their clubs at the same time.

Cook was brought to see if he was up to the job and he isnt so why persevere, cook claims he shouldnt be dropped to get older riders in but bridger and barker are younger than him! Personally would have picked danny king

[gary moore]

Hi all,

 

Just reading through this thread and felt strongly enough to register and post!

 

To me it is simple, GB aren't good enough to win the world cup this year, I think that is only 10 freak incidents in one night away from being fact. With that in mind I don't understand the support for riders like King, Bridger, Kennett who have all had their chance for a number of years at the top level and not really taken it, to me giving these riders the WC places is utterly pointless, literally.

 

I am dumbfounded that Ritchie Worrall has not been picked tonight, a rider who has proved this year that he can beat most riders, and on this track. Compared to Kennetts return even 5 points would have seen us run Denmark a lot closer.

 

It's simple, we aren't going to win it so give the youngsters the experience they need, Cook will come back a lot stronger for this experience and so would Worrall. It's time British speedway stopped living in the present with temporary measures and looked to the future.

 

Dead right,thats why Lyons quit as soon as he did!!

 

No foresight?

 

Cook will be better next time imo,get rid of Kennett and middledick.

 

Grates with me to see Nicholls commentating on the damn thing when he should stop behaving like a child and ride in the event

 

Just my view and I am sure he has his reasons even though I don't agree with them

 

Maybe the same reason that Rico had when he refused?

 

Didnt get paid all that was owed!!!!

 

I noticed Bridger in the pits helping out but not sure if hangin around in a Guns n Roses vest sets a great example to Team GB professionalism?...this is one of many differences between us and the rest....mind you is it me or is this World cup very shoddy so far?..even more so when thursday's victors are guaranteed saturday's bronze

 

Nothing wrong with Guns and roses.........

[SPEEDY69]

I think that with a full side including Scott instead of Kennett we could have got closer to the Danes but it was always going to be hard. I don't subscribe to youth is best in any sport - it should be the best ones that get picked irrespective of age. If a youngster wants to be involved then surely that's the motivation to get better! If you're good enough you'll be picked on merit (unless it's up to BSI of course )

 

The race off looks perfectly winnable for Team GB - who have the Aussies got bar Ward that is not beaten regularly in the EL. Tai cancels out Ward then it's Batchelor or Bridger, both are unpredictable and could win everything or lose everything. Next Harris or Doyle, fairly even and finally Barker vs Woodward/North, again honours even in my view. All to play for and this year is one of our better chances to get to the final of recent years as so many teams are very weak.

[pugwash]

It was travis when he was talking to hancock he was doing the talking out the side of his mouth thing he always does. Who was it then?

That guy from 'Scoobie Do'.

[BluPanther]

The result was never in doubt, the only point of last night was to find the 3rd place team, and well done USA. Barker and Bridger for the play off is an excellent choice, Cook is clearly not ready and Kennett was never a good choice. Thursday is basically a meeting to decide the bronze medal, Poland and Denmark are light years ahead...