Starman2006 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Sorry what has that got to do with not picking the best side ? Neil picks the side on who he thinks will do the best job on the night. Sadly, it didn't happen. Yes i said ages ago that Barker should have been included in the team, but neil picks it. Also posibly Danny king should have been included, he's just starting to find a bit of form. But what some people on here fail, to understand we don't have the strength in depth of some nations, and some people fail to remember 2004, when we came within a point of winning the dam thing. Im sure that Hans Anderson would agree!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Neil picks the side on who he thinks will do the best job on the night. Sadly, it didn't happen. Yes i said ages ago that Barker should have been included in the team, but neil picks it. Also posibly Danny king should have been included, he's just starting to find a bit of form. But what some people on here fail, to understand we don't have the strength in depth of some nations, and some people fail to remember 2004, when we came within a point of winning the dam thing. Im sure that Hans Anderson would agree!!!!! No they said Neil picked the wrong the side the same as you have ....that's hard to do if we have not strength in depth as you say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Craig cook has just tweeted to say hes been dropped and sounds bitter about it,middlo gave him a chance and he blew it , what reason would middlo have to keep him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Another <removed> on here who doesn't understand we don't have the strength in depth of some nations.. As for what Neil does at poole, an awful lot more than you could shake a stick at.. No need for personal abuse boy . Don't say on a keyboard what you wouldn't have the guts to say face to face. My point wasn't about strength in depth it was about Middlo picking an out of form rider in Kennett. His league form has been woeful and below that of Barker, Bridger. Kennett's been in SWC's before and has failed before when he's been in better form coming into the tournament I sympathise for Kennett. He was only given 3 from 5 rides which is, in part, an admission by the management that he shouldn't have been picked in the first place. They should have showed some guts and changed the team before lowering Kennett's confidence to an even lower level. Another admission of a poor pick is that he's been dropped for the race off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Come on then team GB fans, who do we take to the race-off? 1) Chris Harris 2) Tai Woffinden 3) 4) Res. Would of brought in King & Bridger. Firstly i would replace Middlo with Rosco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Can't see the logic of dropping Cook. Give him the experience in Prague wth a view to the future. Its unlikely we will win the play-off, so we mght as well use it to give some less experienced riders a go. He surely has more to offer in the next few years than Bridger and Barker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamber Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Saw travis mcgowan in the america team pits..take it the uk border patrol didnt search herbies van lol It ai Saw travis mcgowan in the america team pits..take it the uk border patrol didnt search herbies van lol It aint Travis buddy.Saw travis mcgowan in the america team pits..take it the uk border patrol didnt search herbies van lol Saw travis mcgowan in the america team pits..take it the uk border patrol didnt search herbies van lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 No need for personal abuse boy. Don't say on a keyboard what you wouldn't have the guts to say face to face. My point wasn't about strength in depth it was about Middlo picking an out of form rider in Kennett. His league form has been woeful and below that of Barker, Bridger. I sympathise for Kennett as he was on a one way ticket. Appologies for the remark. but theres no need to slag our manager off. Neil is very limited on his choice of riders, we are not Denmark or Poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Poor advert for speedway tonight. Had two folk new to the sport watching. No passing, endless replays, tediously slow pace, weaker teams getting double points. All capped-off with that "game of bingo" for the last 4 heats. Come on, we can do better than this for our sport, surely? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G the Bee Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Neil picks the side on who he thinks will do the best job on the night. Sadly, it didn't happen. Yes i said ages ago that Barker should have been included in the team, but neil picks it. Also posibly Danny king should have been included, he's just starting to find a bit of form. But what some people on here fail, to understand we don't have the strength in depth of some nations, and some people fail to remember 2004, when we came within a point of winning the dam thing. Im sure that Hans Anderson would agree!!!!! I can't agree with that at all. You must be on a wind-up. I doubt there is a poster on here who does not recognise that GB does not have the strength in depth of the Danes and the Poles. However, it is only those two nations who do have strength in depth. The teams Australia, Sweden and Russia fielded shows that once their top few riders are unavailable, they are also struggling to match the Poles and Danes. I suspect both Poland and Denmark could have put their reserve teams in both meetings and still qualified directly to the final! You need to put your Poole bias to one side. Middlo made a huge howler in picking Eddie Kennett. Most posters on here believed this to be the case, and they were proved correct today. I'm no particular fan of Danny King but I suspect that had he been included he would have picked up solid points tonight. That said, I would probably have gone with Worrall on his home track. Again, I suspect he would have done ok against the Americans and Swedes. I think we need to move on from 2004 now. It was 9 years ago. Edited July 15, 2013 by G the Bee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamber Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 It ai It aint Tavis buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowmicktiger Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Yes it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I can't agree with that at all. You must be on a wind-up. I doubt there is a poster on here who does not recognise that GB does not have the strength in depth of the Danes and the Poles. However, it is only those two nations who do have strength in depth. The teams Australia, Sweden and Russia fielded shows that once their top few riders are unavailable, they are also struggling to match the Poles and Danes. I suspect both Poland and Denmark could have put their reserve teams in both meetings and still qualified directly to the final! You need to put your Poole bias to one side. Middlo made a huge howler in picking Eddie Kennett. Most posters on here believed this to be the case, and they were proved correct today. I'm no particular fan of Danny King but I suspect that had he been included he would have picked up solid points tonight. That said, I would probably have gone with Worrall on his home track. Again, I suspect he would have done ok against the Americans and Swedes. Ive already mentioned that Ben should have ridden and Danny is just starting to find a bit of form, but even with that, would it have been enough to turn over the Danes?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Can't see the logic of dropping Cook. Give him the experience in Prague wth a view to the future. Its unlikely we will win the play-off, so we mght as well use it to give some less experienced riders a go. He surely has more to offer in the next few years than Bridger and Barker. The logic is we could win the race off without him, with him we have no chance. He clearly hasnt the ability to mix it with the better riders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Appologies for the remark. but theres no need to slag our manager off. Neil is very limited on his choice of riders, we are not Denmark or Poland Apology accepted. I'm not 'slagging off' your manager. I'm making a judgement on the side he picked based on league form. If we are limited then surely he should pick in form riders who are riding with confidence and not one who has hardly won a race for two months. His scores have been poor in the Elite league home and away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamber Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Yes it was. Sorry but it aint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 The logic is we could win the race off without him, with him we have no chance. He clearly hasnt the ability to mix it with the better riders He's beaten some decent riders home & away in the EL & mixed it pretty well for a guy 4 years out of motocross - or maybe I just imagined it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Appologies for the remark. but theres no need to slag our manager off. Neil is very limited on his choice of riders, we are not Denmark or Poland When you say 'our' manager, is that in reference to GB or Poole? If Poole he's had the financial backing to make him look better with World class rider's. If it's in reference to GB he's been an utter disaster. 2004 is 9 years ago. If living off that is keeping him in the job, British Speedway on the World stage has no hope what so ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Apology accepted. I'm not 'slagging off' your manager. I'm making a judgement on the side he picked based on league form. If we are limited then surely he should pick in form riders who are riding with confidence and not one who has hardly won a race for two months. His scores have been poor in the Elite league home and away. I agree with you. Eddie has been in poor form recently, and im sure that Neil knew that, but he took the chance on Eddie performing tonight, but Neil could have gone with Ben or Danny, hindsight is a wonderful thing. The problem is, we are never, going to have the scope or strength in depth of the Poles Danes or the Aussies come to that. Edited July 15, 2013 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G the Bee Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Ive already mentioned that Ben should have ridden and Danny is just starting to find a bit of form, but even with that, would it have been enough to turn over the Danes?? That's not the point. You mentioned that Neil picks the riders he thinks can do the best job. My point is that Neil's opinion on riders who can do 'the best job' was massively removed from what, I suspect, the vast majority of posters on here believed. And the posters on here were proved correct. Without wanting to be harsh, if Neil really thought Eddie Kennett was the best option for the final place in the team (especially over Worrall, Bridger, Barker and King) then I personally have no confidence in him as our national team manager. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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