foreverblue Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 A bit harsh SCB i hope you are right ,i like Barker he gives everything and won't give an inch but Cook should be a starter. Cook should not be a starter he has had his chance, King, Barker and Bridger are all better alternatives. Gets found out against class opposition like Kennett. It's where Barker excels, he can raise his game more than any other EL Brit IMO. Barker and Bridger won't be shoved around unlike Kennett, King, Cook and Worrall. Agree about Barker but personally would have used King. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I always take a drink into Cardiff. Its a good game to play, if they can find it they can have it. Next year they might need to wear gloves. Hope you don't drink straight from the bottle!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 So Cook who has been riding 4 and a half years gets binned after 1 match and "has had his chance". Barker has been riding 10-11 years and lags behind Cook in both EL and PL averages this year but he should be a regular? King is coming up to 12 years in the sport without hitting any great heights and he should be a regular? Bridger is in his 9th year and what has he achieved? He also lags well behind Cook in the EL averages but he should be a regular? Jeez - give me strength. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 So Cook who has been riding 4 and a half years gets binned after 1 match and "has had his chance". Barker has been riding 10-11 years and lags behind Cook in both EL and PL averages this year but he should be a regular? King is coming up to 12 years in the sport without hitting any great heights and he should be a regular? Bridger is in his 9th year and what has he achieved? He also lags well behind Cook in the EL averages but he should be a regular? Jeez - give me strength. Harsh on Cook, and I feel Team GB management have made huge mistakes, but right now lets all get behind Barker and Bridger and support them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Harsh on Cook, and I feel Team GB management have made huge mistakes, but right now lets all get behind Barker and Bridger and support them. I don't know where your getting the HUGE mistakes from. I mean, its not as though they have a great depth of riders to choose from who are all international class. But like you say, Bridger and Barker deserve a run out, lets hope they put their best foot forwards.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Dont mind Barker getting a go,but not Bridger IMO if he has a poor 1st ride his confidence goes,his head drops and he seems incapable of salvaging something for the rest of the night.Maybe this could expain why he hasnt made any significant steps forward in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 But you could buy Monster from the Pit-Stop Cafe for just £2.50 a can when you got inside! Seriously, it's not surprising is it? If people took free cans in with them, then they'd take a massive hit on drink sales in the bar/cafe. I don't blame them, it happens at Cardiff too but it a sure way to pee off bsi biggest sponsor for years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Shaker Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 I don't know where your getting the HUGE mistakes from. I mean, its not as though they have a great depth of riders to choose from who are all international class. But like you say, Bridger and Barker deserve a run out, lets hope they put their best foot forwards.. Exactly, such small pool to choose from, and he still managed to choose the wrong ones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Harsh on Cook, and I feel Team GB management have made huge mistakes, but right now lets all get behind Barker and Bridger and support them. Leaving out Cook wasn't a mistake, the mistake was having Kennett in the team in the first place and Cook only rode to see if he was up to the task and came up a little short, he has a future in the gb team and i am sure he will be back but going with more experienced young riders now in a world cup race off is the right thing to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Shaker Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Leaving apart the errors made in selection. Do you really think that Middlo has handled and "Managed" the team well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Leaving apart the errors made in selection. Do you really think that Middlo has handled and "Managed" the team well? Bearing in mind, he has even got the paperwork to do the job so has to do the job through Phil Morris. It's like being a delivery driver but not having a driving license! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Bearing in mind, he has even got the paperwork to do the job so has to do the job through Phil Morris. It's like being a delivery driver but not having a driving license! Does that matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Does that matter? It's say it's a pretty important part. But do you want more reasons? I'm happy to repeat them for the 50th time if you like? Time after time he played the joker on a rider in the heat. Time after time he played the joker on Scott Nicholls who failed every year. What about the time he claimed, "I'm giving youth a chance", days before sacking Simon Stead and going with Chris Louis who failed spectaculary? What about having been given the best team in the league 3 times (2010, 2012 and 2013) he messed up the play-offs when it come down to it and this season has failed from day 1? What about having been given a poor team in 2009 could do nothing with it? So I'll ask Shale Shakers question again, Do you really think that Middlo has handled and "Managed" the team well? And I'll add my own bit to it, what has/does Middlo do that makes him worthy of the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 In my profession, as in most, regulations have changed an awful lot over the years. Retraining, accreditation, health and safety, licensing. Many changes. To be legal and above board I have had to move with the times. Do the courses, pay the fees. I wish I had a mate called Phil who did all that. So I didn't have to bother. But then again, to so many here. Does it matter? Some of us are just wasting our time doing the right things. Who gives a toss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) It's say it's a pretty important part. But do you want more reasons? I'm happy to repeat them for the 50th time if you like? Time after time he played the joker on a rider in the heat. Time after time he played the joker on Scott Nicholls who failed every year. What about the time he claimed, "I'm giving youth a chance", days before sacking Simon Stead and going with Chris Louis who failed spectaculary? What about having been given the best team in the league 3 times (2010, 2012 and 2013) he messed up the play-offs when it come down to it and this season has failed from day 1? What about having been given a poor team in 2009 could do nothing with it? So I'll ask Shale Shakers question again, Do you really think that Middlo has handled and "Managed" the team well? And I'll add my own bit to it, what has/does Middlo do that makes him worthy of the job? When i said does it matter, i was referring to the manager not having the paperwork to manage therefore letting the assistant manager have the title which has nothing to do with any so called mistakes he has made. But while we are on the subject who is praising him for the right tactical call on the joker this time? You will probably say that's the only decision he has got right in all his time as GB manager, i suppose the time we nearly won it in 2004 was his fault too. Don't why you brought up Poole's bad luck in losing the league which was not Middlo's fault. Edited July 18, 2013 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 But while we are on the subject who is praising him for the right tactical call on the joker this time?Well Done Middlo on that tactical change. Better? He was doing his bloody job FFS! Finally get a tactical joker rider, it's only take a decade! But yes, it was right, IMO it was 100% spot on. So much so that I posted on facebook during the heat before it had to happen. BUT why was Kennett kept in his next ride? 7 down, we could have/should have put Harris down. Why wait until we were about 10 down to put him in? Claw back the points ASAP. Again, I said this on facebook as the meeting was happening and not with hindsight. You will probably say that's the only decision he has got right in all his time as GB manager, i suppose the time we nearly won it in 2004 was his fault too.I don't remember any issues that season tbf. He also made a superb call to give Norris and Barker a chance in 2003. And yes, having he correct licensing is kind of a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Well Done Middlo on that tactical change. Better? He was doing his bloody job FFS! Finally get a tactical joker rider, it's only take a decade! But yes, it was right, IMO it was 100% spot on. So much so that I posted on facebook during the heat before it had to happen. BUT why was Kennett kept in his next ride? 7 down, we could have/should have put Harris down. Why wait until we were about 10 down to put him in? Claw back the points ASAP. Again, I said this on facebook as the meeting was happening and not with hindsight. I don't remember any issues that season tbf. He also made a superb call to give Norris and Barker a chance in 2003. And yes, having he correct licensing is kind of a big deal. Don't all riders have to have 3 rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Don't all riders have to have 3 rides. AFAIK they don't but I don't see the issue, he'd have had his 1st, 4th and 5th rides. He was taken out of his 2nd and should have been taken out of his 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 AFAIK they don't but I don't see the issue, he'd have had his 1st, 4th and 5th rides. He was taken out of his 2nd and should have been taken out of his 3rd. Don't see it would have made any difference, Harris would have only scored a point more as Pedersen and Hancock were in that race and anyway probably thought he had more chance of beating MJJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Don't all riders have to have 3 rides. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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