Edinburgh Monarchs V Leicester Lions (pl) 28 June 2013

[jim the whipper]

I wouldn't know how much she knows about speedway but that doesn't mean she can't learn and being a woman she will probably learn a darn sight faster.

Thats correct but like all women talk first learn second , first thing she needs to learn is to keep her mouth shut for the sake of her husbands business .

Putting the sexist nonsense aside, one of the problems at Leicester is that for the last three years Mr Hemsley has been learning how to be a speedway promoter. The evidence continually shows he has learned very little. Maybe the BSPA were wrong to licence someone with no previous speedway background. Maybe the BSPA should have supported him more.

The Bspa probably took him at face value .but those who knew him from his cycle speedway days knew what he was like , unfortunately amid the euphoria of a Lions return after 28 years very few of his new acquaintances could see the real Hemsley . some still defend his appalling behaviour now and continue to delude themselves that he is the only and best option, that is far from the truth at present but for how much longer before Leicester speedway is so run down that no-one will take it on and use it's obvious potential to take it forward ?.

[Glennylion]

Again why shouldn't Julia Hemsley engage with the team at the end of the day it's her investment as well as it is a family business. one thing I haven't seen is DH give the team a dressing down on websites and the SS like other promotions calling their riders best part of useless etc.....

 

Very logical. I am sure the Thais at the KP, Cohen at the Tigers, Glazers at Man U and Abramovich all adopt such a policy, or better still the wives do (At the KP it probably would help). I'll walk into a local Santander and tell them what to do in a business that I have never had any involvement in...but I have shares. A manager is hired to manage. The moment the wife or the promoter gets involved on the basis that it's a family business then it is time to pack up, as the manager has been undermined and the riders or players dependant on the sport haven't got a scooby as to what is going on. She may be learning and may know her speedway inside and out but she isn't the promoter and isn't the manager. Luke and the Thompson Twins are also learning but I wouldn't have then in gates 1 and 3 on a Saturday.... just yet.

[TMW]

Do we actually know that any of this actually happened or have people just heard something and just kept adding their own bits!!!!!.

 

Let see what happens Friday. Shall we!!!!!!!!.

[Elephantman]

 

Absolutely bang on , Why shouldn't Julia Hemsley have her say , In fact on a similar theme why not have a competition in the local paper to be team manager for the evening or track curator , these speedway riders think they have a right to do as they please. Just because they are risking life and limb and have reached a high standard , They think they can just do as they please regardless of any advice given to them by a russian woman who knows as much about speedway as the checkout girl at Wilko ,

 

Which checkout girl at wilko? Or did you mean John Lewis after all your tag line should read, "never knowingly missed an opportunity to slag off the Leicester Promotion". Bit long I know but sums up all your posts.

 

 

Thats correct but like all women talk first learn second ,

And you wonder why speedway can't attract new support?

[neb]

Absolutely bang on , Why shouldn't Julia Hemsley have her say , In fact on a similar theme why not have a competition in the local paper to be team manager for the evening or track curator , these speedway riders think they have a right to do as they please. Just because they are risking life and limb and have reached a high standard , They think they can just do as they please regardless of any advice given to them by a russian woman who knows as much about speedway as the checkout girl at Wilko ,

and why shouldn't julia hemsley have her say ( to a point ) i am sure its as much her business as it is david's.david's actions on sat night in my book was unacceptable and i am sure he has had plenty of time to sit down and think it over and i doubt very much if we will see it repeated. julia i dare say knows more about speedway than anyone will give her credit for and personally i have found her a very pleasant woman when ordering my drink in the bar after the meeting.to paint her with the same brush as davids is wrong knocking lumps out of her on here is also wrong and the fact she is russian shouldn't make a blind bit of difference.

[Leicester Lion]

and why shouldn't julia hemsley have her say ( to a point ) i am sure its as much her business as it is david's.david's actions on sat night in my book was unacceptable and i am sure he has had plenty of time to sit down and think it over and i doubt very much if we will see it repeated.

According to public records, David Hemsley is the sole director of Leicester Speedway Limited. Whether he's learned from his error remains to be seen.

 

It may be Mr Hemsley's business, and some will say he can run it how he likes. To some extent that's true, but running a speedway club is different to running other businesses. A speedway club needs, and encourages, an emotional buy-in from its customers. That attachment will inevitably lead the club's supporters to hold and express strongly held views about the way the club is run.

[wandersome]

and why shouldn't julia hemsley have her say ( to a point ) i am sure its as much her business as it is david's.david's actions on sat night in my book was unacceptable and i am sure he has had plenty of time to sit down and think it over and i doubt very much if we will see it repeated. julia i dare say knows more about speedway than anyone will give her credit for and personally i have found her a very pleasant woman when ordering my drink in the bar after the meeting.to paint her with the same brush as davids is wrong knocking lumps out of her on here is also wrong and the fact she is russian shouldn't make a blind bit of difference.

 

dont disagree Neb, She's always seemed very nice when she's spoken to my family. Not sure if she comes across as the speedway team talk type though but there you go!

[jim the whipper]

and why shouldn't julia hemsley have her say ( to a point ) i am sure its as much her business as it is david's.david's actions on sat night in my book was unacceptable and i am sure he has had plenty of time to sit down and think it over and i doubt very much if we will see it repeated. julia i dare say knows more about speedway than anyone will give her credit for and personally i have found her a very pleasant woman when ordering my drink in the bar after the meeting.to paint her with the same brush as davids is wrong knocking lumps out of her on here is also wrong and the fact she is russian shouldn't make a blind bit of difference.

Russian woman would be expected to know about speedway in depth much the same as she would be expected to know about Morris dancing that's all . And it would appear that you see no harm in her having an input , so no more to be said really everything is rosy at Leicester speedway and no need for further debate ,

[neb]

Russian woman would be expected to know about speedway in depth much the same as she would be expected to know about Morris dancing that's all . And it would appear that you see no harm in her having an input , so no more to be said really everything is rosy at Leicester speedway and no need for further debate ,

thats not what i am saying she has a right like you and me to voice an opinion weather its right or wrong or anyone takes any notice is another thing and i didn't say its a good thing for her to have an input but what i do think is its unfair to pull her to bits on hear and to keep making the point about her being russian i dont grasp the connection.if she well up on morris dancing then fair play to her,and no everything is not rosy at leicester far from it.

[TMW]

Sorry to go off topic but. Do we know who is guesting for Edberg? It wont be Sarj as the Storm are riding at Cov.

[Elephantman]

Things will never be rosy at Leicester because even if DH was to do everything that some of these posters suggest it would not be good enough. It is clear that DH is far from perfect however the constant criticism on this forum, much of it quite vitriolic, means he probably feels painted in to a corner.

 

I do believe that some on here would be happy to see the sport fail in Leicester than survive under the ownership of DH.

[MiddleRubberBruver]

 

 

dont disagree Neb, She's always seemed very nice when she's spoken to my family. Not sure if she comes across as the speedway team talk type though but there you go!

 

Don't know how true it is about Yulia having an input Into team affairs but you never know, she could be a really good motivator. As for her picking the riders for heat 15, I would argue that Glyn has the final say and most weeks there's not really much of a decision to be made. Maybe only gate positions rather than riders.

[jim the whipper]

Russian woman would be expected to know about speedway in depth much the same as she would be expected to know about Morris dancing that's all

and to keep making the point about her being russian i dont grasp the connection.if she well up on morris dancing then fair play to her

Someone explain to him please ,

[cyclone]

Review on Official Edinburgh website lists Edberg at no. 6 and no reference to him being unavailable.

 

Tommy Fenwick at no. 6 for Monarchs

[Nickj37]

No Bjerre he has been gifted the wild card for the world u21 final round 1.

Alex Edberg is also missing at the moment with ligament damage so a guest is availble which is TBC

 

Major rider revolt at Leicester. The rumours that Yulia Hemsley is the new team manager are untrue. Yulia is purely doing the team talks & making suggestions for heat 15 picks which if Glyn doesn't agree with he will get sacked.

 

Nothing surprises me about Leicester 1 drama to another life is certainly not boring following the lions

where the hell have you heard suck drival....I have it on a very good source Yulia Helmsley has no such say in team talks or heat 15 suggestions.

[neb]

Someone explain to him please ,

Someone explain to him please ,

i understand what you are saying but your posts are starting to sound a little raciest,correct me if i am wrong and if i am then i apologize but you might as well say russian women know how to drink vodka better than anyone else, i just dont get where your trying to go with this.

[TMW]

Review on Official Edinburgh website lists Edberg at no. 6 and no reference to him being unavailable.

 

Tommy Fenwick at no. 6 for Monarchs

 

There is a post on FB saying Glynn Taylor is awaiting a fitness report from Edberg maybe he will give it a go

[robert72]

Things will never be rosy at Leicester because even if DH was to do everything that some of these posters suggest it would not be good enough. It is clear that DH is far from perfect however the constant criticism on this forum, much of it quite vitriolic, means he probably feels painted in to a corner.

 

I do believe that some on here would be happy to see the sport fail in Leicester than survive under the ownership of DH.

 

I think under the ownership of DH the club will fold unless he puts the club up for sale for the sake of speedway excisting in leicester.

 

I just hope the riders turn up at edinburgh and give it there best and hemsley keeps out of the way and let glyn and the team do there job.

[Mr Blobby]

So back on Topic instead of this Leicester promotion nonsense, which there is a topic about so if you want to post about them there please do!

 

Line ups for Friday:

 

Edinburgh Monarchs

1. Craig Cook
   
2. Derek Sneddon
   
3. Claus Vissing
   
4. Joe Tabaka
   
5. Theo Pijper
   
6. Tommy Fenwick
   
7. Max Fricke
   

 

Leicester Lions

1. Kauko Nieminem
   
2. Jan Graversen
   
3. Kevin Doolan
   
4. Lasse Bjerre R/R
   
5. Magnus Karlsson
   
6. Alex Edberg
   
7. Robert Branford
   

[lionking]

Alex right ankle is double its usual size but according to facebook he is going to see how it is before deciding if he will ride or not

Sorry to go off topic but. Do we know who is guesting for Edberg? It wont be Sarj as the Storm are riding at Cov.

 

It is called being sarcastic after the rumours you hear on here of YH taking team talks (which i know for a fact a few weeks ago she did speak to the riders before a match)

 

where the hell have you heard suck drival....I have it on a very good source Yulia Helmsley has no such say in team talks or heat 15 suggestions.

 

Good leicester will run R/R at no 2 with Jan Graversen at no 4.

That is usually how Glyn decides to run when he has to run R/R

So back on Topic instead of this Leicester promotion nonsense, which there is a topic about so if you want to post about them there please do!

 

Line ups for Friday:

 

Edinburgh Monarchs

1. Craig Cook
   
2. Derek Sneddon
   
3. Claus Vissing
   
4. Joe Tabaka
   
5. Theo Pijper
   
6. Tommy Fenwick
   
7. Max Fricke
   

 

Leicester Lions

1. Kauko Nieminem
   
2. Jan Graversen
   
3. Kevin Doolan
   
4. Lasse Bjerre R/R
   
5. Magnus Karlsson
   
6. Alex Edberg
   
7. Robert Branford