Steve Shovlar Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Hearing on Five Live that Sport England might not give the millions of pounds a year to the Lawn Tennis Association as they are not clear on how the money will be spent. urely speedway could benefit from some of these handouts to train British youngsters. Is anyone applying to Sports England for some of this lottery dosh? If the rich kids and snobs of tennis can get some of the loot, surely a working class sport like speedway can get some cash to get a few oiks off the street and into sport? Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Hearing on Five Live that Sport England might not give the millions of pounds a year to the Lawn Tennis Association as they are not clear on how the money will be spent. urely speedway could benefit from some of these handouts to train British youngsters. Is anyone applying to Sports England for some of this lottery dosh? If the rich kids and snobs of tennis can get some of the loot, surely a working class sport like speedway can get some cash to get a few oiks off the street and into sport? Thoughts? Is speedway a working class sport any more than tennis? There's lots of working class people I know who play the sport, some from ethnic backgrounds. In south London several tennis clubs have special coaching schemes to help young people play the game. These people are far from being "rich kids and snobs of tennis". I also think anyway you will find there are guidelines in regard to the type of sport that qualifies for Sport of England cash and somehow I have an idea - I COULD BE WRONG - that motorised sports do not fall within the qualifying criteria for donations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Got no chance, they give money to Iranian domino clubs and the like instead!! Stinks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I would imagine if a club could get a set up like Scunny (training track, track access 24/7/365 and amateur meetings) and then got a tie in with the Jan O Pedersen type apprenticeship thing they may be able to get a bit of cash. But too many will say, "we can't get the cash, no point" rather than, "what needs to be done to get the cash" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Got no chance, they give money to Iranian domino clubs and the like instead!! Stinks!! Are you sure of that. It looks a good story for one of the tabloid dailies if that is the case angled on the fact about this organisation getting cash but its with=held from speedway. The "Sunny Bun" will love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Got no chance, they give money to Iranian domino clubs and the like instead!! Stinks!! You are posting utter tosh. Obtaining grants is about following the rules by writing an application that meets the criteria of Sport England. Instead of posting nonsense why don't you do something useful go study the rules and devise a way for speedway to benefit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 You are posting utter tosh. Obtaining grants is about following the rules by writing an application that meets the criteria of Sport England. Instead of posting nonsense why don't you do something useful go study the rules and devise a way for speedway to benefit? really?? Ok then..... Study the rules?? I'm quite aware of them, in fact very aware of them... I'm very aware also of the way sport England has allocated funds and to whom.... It's a bit more balanced nowadays but wasn't initially IMO, put it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) I would suspect that any money forthcoming would disappear into the BSPA's murky depths. Unfortunatly British Speedway doesn't have a governing body or any organ that's main interest is the furtherment of that sport. Edited June 21, 2013 by pugwash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephantman Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 really?? Ok then..... Study the rules?? I'm quite aware of them, in fact very aware of them... I'm very aware also of the way sport England has allocated funds and to whom.... It's a bit more balanced nowadays but wasn't initially IMO, put it that way. For this subject the facts are available and opinion not based on the facts is exactly that; just some persons thoughts without any substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Got no chance, they give money to Iranian domino clubs and the like instead!! Stinks!! Are you sure of that. It looks a good story for one of the tabloid dailies if that is the case angled on the fact about this organisation getting cash but its with=held from speedway. The "Sunny Bun" will love it. really?? Ok then..... Study the rules?? I'm quite aware of them, in fact very aware of them... I'm very aware also of the way sport England has allocated funds and to whom.... It's a bit more balanced nowadays but wasn't initially IMO, put it that way. A well said last Post. But you still have not explained how the Iranian domino clubs get Sport England finance - perhaps in preference to speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymondbudd Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 I agree with SCB, packaged correctly something based around training / community could have as good a chance as any other sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) For this subject the facts are available and opinion not based on the facts is exactly that; just some persons thoughts without any substance. believe what you want...sport England isn't just about funding someone or somewhere to put kit on and play sport you know.... It maybe is a bit more that way now but certainly wasn't in the beginning. A well said last Post. But you still have not explained how the Iranian domino clubs get Sport England finance - perhaps in preference to speedway? not in preference to speedway, it was a club within a club Actually a club within a resource centre that have been given 2 grants that I know of.... The grant is for the resource centre which promotes sport and exercise but also well being, inclusion and aims to stop isolation. Edited June 21, 2013 by Arson fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conkers in Gravy Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) A great idea, but speedway would have to prove it has the potential to include far more youngsters than it does now. Far from being a "posh snobs" sport, tennis is pretty easy to get into for anyone - all you need is a racket and a couple of balls, municipal courts are inexpensive (free in some towns) and even club membership is generally cheap for children and a fraction of the cost of getting involved in speedway. For any funding application to work speedway must convince Sport England that it's not just a sport for boys with rich mummies and daddies. Good luck with that one Edited June 21, 2013 by Conkers in Gravy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 It's a nice thought, but with the best will in the world, it just aint gonna happen is it. Speedway is only recognised by Sport England through the Acu, so you'd need to get in bed with them for a start, Then like RaymondBudd says, you'd need to probably ease off on the speedway bit, and push the community bit and getting kids more active or something. Didnt Kings Lynn do something along these lines before ? Going 100% on improving british speedway as the be all and end all will get nowhere. Team GB enter how many tournaments ? One ? How can you sell that to Sport England ? Their little statement is something along the lines of encouraging recreation and sporting excellent in england or something. Getting a few kids to represent their country at speedway once a year in a sport that encourages zero recreation will be a hard old sell. Good luck whoever fancies that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasta la vista Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Just to correct the above post on 1 point. GB do not just enter 1 event, you have to include individuals competing in the GP's, entering the GP qualifiers and also competing in the World U21 qualifiers. it's not all about team competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Just to correct the above post on 1 point. GB do not just enter 1 event, you have to include individuals competing in the GP's, entering the GP qualifiers and also competing in the World U21 qualifiers. it's not all about team competition. I did say Team GB... I'm quite aware that individuals enter qualifiers, and there are obviously competitors in Gp's etc, but those riders are riding in them as individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasta la vista Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 They still have to be selected by the governing body, so represent GB not themsleves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 They still have to be selected by the governing body, so represent GB not themsleves. We're getting into semantics now, because the federation don't get the prize money do they ? My point is that they are going for individual glory, and if they succeed or not, imo, it in no way reflects on the country the rider rides in. If Sayfutdinov becomes World Champion this year, people wont say cor look how good Russian speedway is now.. Anyway, its never gonna happen. Nice idea from Shovvy but sadly a no go for many reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Money desperatley needed by most PL/NL clubs next year for Air/Foam fences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Money desperatley needed by most PL/NL clubs next year for Air/Foam fences. Perhaps they might make Grant Money available on Health and Safety grounds? Personally I would doubt it - a lot of the time they use Health and Safety Regulations when it is PAIN in the bum - not for anything REALLY dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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