Willowman Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) What an absolute shambles!!! I hope Somerset have to forfeit this now! Surely the track could have been identified as unusable earlier!!! Furious I hope you posted this from the track? If not then you can't really comment can you? If you did then I see this differently to you. I think that riders from both sides should have taken a spin to see what the track was really like. I think supporters of both sides and the Somerset promotion have been shafted by the riders. We have definately had worse track conditions than tonight after the grading. For goodness sake, the riders had already decided to call it a day before Ez had finished his remedial work. As you say Willowman speedway can do without this sort of thing, really like Somerset as a track but at the pairs the track was poor and now this,makes the sport a laughing stock ( pleased Sky weren't there) I think you misunderstand my point. The meeting should have continued. I would bet a pound to a penny the track would have been perfect after 2 or 3 heats. Even they would not have been dangerous to ride. I have followed speedway for many years and it should have gone ahead. I feel very sorry for all the fans, Ez and Debbie. RIP British Speedway! Edited June 18, 2013 by Willowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Can't see how the Worky lads would be happy to travel all that way for 1 heat then give it up so easily, must have been a serious issue. Flawed logic Willowman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemoc Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) I hope you posted this from the track? If not then you can't really comment can you? If you did then I see this differently to you. I think that riders from both sides should have taken a spin to see what the track was really like. I think supporters of both sides and the Somerset promotion have been shafted by the riders. We have definately had worse track conditions than tonight after the grading. For goodness sake, the riders had already decided to call it a day before Ez had finished his remedial work. I think you misunderstand my point. The meeting should have continued. I would bet a pound to a penny the track would have been perfect after 2 or 3 heats. Even they would not have been dangerous to ride. I have followed speedway for many years and it should have gone ahead. I feel very sorry for all the fans, Ez and Debbie. RIP British Speedway! So I take it you were there Willowman, if so and you feel the meeting should have gone ahead who ( in your opinion) is at fault here? Edited June 18, 2013 by stemoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Can't see how the Worky lads would be happy to travel all that way for 1 heat then give it up so easily, must have been a serious issue. Flawed logic Willowman Did I say the Worky riders? I think it was all the riders to be fair. As I said they had already decided to call it a day before Ez had finished the remedial work. They didn't even give the rectified track a go. I'm all for rider safety but this was just taking the Mick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 A sad day in the history of Somerset Speedway, track looked wet before start of heat 1 (due to watering not rain). I have seen it wetter, but there was extra shale on tonight and riders filled in after a lap. Only good things were it wasn't the SKY meeting and Stefan recovered from what looked a certain hospital visit crash. You could see by 8-30pm that the blading was not going to make much difference. I usually judge people by how I would act myself, and if I was a promoter I would have been on that centre green to make the abandonment announcement myself and apologising to the fans, many who would have travelled a lot further than myself. A poor show, and hopefully matters will be corrected by a free programme and car parking at a future match for those holding rain off tickets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoobie Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 What an absolute discrace, Somerset speedway hang your head with shame!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietbowers Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) I don`t turn up and look what happens... ,Willowman,are the three Amigos in agreement here,the Amigos being your good self,Najjer and Statman,the meeting should`ve continued or are you fighting a lone battle? Edited June 18, 2013 by Dietbowers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 So I take it you were there Willowman, if so and you feel the meeting should have gone ahead who ( in your opinion) is at fault here? All the riders. Simple as. Our crowd were absolutely bemused by the decision to call it off. We have definitely seen track conditions much worse at the beginning of a meeting than what the they were like after the remedial work and the meeting progressed as normal. After a few heats the track would settle down well and produce great racing. Yes the track was bad to start with but didn't end up that way. They did not even entertain giving it a go. Something smells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemoc Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Did I say the Worky riders? I think it was all the riders to be fair. As I said they had already decided to call it a day before Ez had finished the remedial work. They didn't even give the rectified track a go. I'm all for rider safety but this was just taking the Mick. So why would the home riders not want to continue, 5-1 in heat 1 the meeting was going in there favour why would they not want to ride? Surely the promotion must take some responsibility for this, it can't all lay at the door of the riders Edited June 18, 2013 by stemoc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 What an absolute discrace, Somerset speedway hang your head with shame!! Like I said previously, I hope you were there to justify your comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 If the track is viewed as not safe under any circumstance the riders should not ride. There was obviously enough concern to decide this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 So why would the home riders not want to continue, 5-1 in heat 1 the meeting was going in there favour why would they nor want to ride? Surely the promotion must take some responsibility for this, it can't all lay at the door of the riders I can only comment on what I observed. The track in my opinion and others was fit for racing. I don`t turn up and look what happens... ,Willowman,are the three Amigos in agreement here,the Amigos being your good self,Najjer and Statman,the meeting should`ve continued or are you fighting a lone battle? Of course the meeting should have continued. The blading did its job.PS Had a splendid week off on holiday in Mid Wales. You are not too bad a bunch really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemoc Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I can only comment on what I observed. The track in my opinion and others was fit for racing. What a shame for all concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneylegend Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Very sad a big shame Come on Somerset enough is enough , we can let "that pairs" watering incident in the semi final go..... but an abandoned meeting when no rain is involved..?! As stemoc and prob alot of other people say somerset is one of the best tracks in the country but if they unable to provide a raceable track on a dry day then this NEEDS to be taken further for the wellbeing of the sport. Sorry Somerset fans not good enough, BSPA PLEASE STEP FORWARD Edited June 18, 2013 by stoneylegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyre bel1 Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 just one of them things cant blame track staff management weather the bottom line is riders safety they are the ones putting there life on the line and if they think the track is unsafe so be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 If the track is viewed as not safe under any circumstance the riders should not ride. There was obviously enough concern to decide this. Well I would argue as the promotion that it was raceable and safe after the remedial work. As I have repeated, the decision to call it a day was made before Ez had finished the work. They did not come out and inspect the track after the work had finished because Ez hadn't finished when the announcement was made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemoc Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 just one of them things cant blame track staff management weather the bottom line is riders safety they are the ones putting there life on the line and if they think the track is unsafe so be it Sorry cant agree with that, Workington have done all they can to complete this fixture even changing our race night to avoid bad weather, how can you say it is just one of them things when clearly the track has been overwatered making it unracable ( riders views not mine). Then we have all the fans some who have traveled many miles to take in this meeting no doubt at at a considarable cost. This incident reflects all that is wrong with our sport it should not be classed as just one of those things. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 ... we can let "that pairs" watering incident in the semi final go..... A mechanical malfunction. Unfortunate but no case to argue. Did not effect anything as Scunthorpe commented. A for tonight it was rider power that made the decision. Wrong in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldswindonsupporter Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Ok, arrived at 7.20 and couldn't believe how wet the track was, puddles on the start / home straight and lots of surface water going into bend three. During the practice it was clear just how much water there was on the track , however, we got underway with heat 1 and after a re-start after Kyle N had a flier or exceptional reactions it was obviously going to be a visibility problem for the riders unless you were in front. Onto heat 2 and the crash between Stefan and Ashley - was the track to blame well I don't now but all riders interviewed stated it was a problem, Rich Lawson went a bit further saying it was very slippery , a fact confirmed by Stefan after he amazingly re-appeared after a ambulance ride on the spinal board! So, what to do, eventually out came the blade and the amount of dirt taken off was quite surprising however, as time went on, no sound of bikes being warmed up and called off at half eight. Whether they should have tried to ride it I don't know but the curfew obviously had a hand to play, at the time of call off the bends looked better, the straights not. Probably was never going to be on after the heat 2 crash. Now, what I do not understand is why didn't someone try the track out before the first race / parade? Surely the promotion could see the problem and yet failed to do anything about it until far too late, why? Why didn't the referee intervien earlier or did he and was persuaded to see how it rode? A PR disaster this for Somerset in my view regardless of any debate on whether it was rideable, there is a difference between rideable and raceable of course, after the blading. And as mentioned in a previous post, nothing from the management which is unexcuseable. Sure we have readmission tickets for a future meeting although the only meeting they mentioned they were valid for was the Newcastle one on Friday week 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Sorry cant agree with that, Workington have done all they can to complete this fixture even changing our race night to avoid bad weather, how can you say it is just one of them things when clearly the track has been overwatered making it unracable ( riders views not mine). Then we have all the fans some who have traveled many miles to take in this meeting no doubt at at a considarable cost. This incident reflects all that is wrong with our sport it should not be classed as just one of those things. I totally agree with you. But the track was sorted. Blame the riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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