Who Should Be In Gb World Cup Team?

[Bagpuss]

orion is right in that Kennett, Barker and King are much of a muchness but if the side is being chosen on form there's only one choice and thats Barker. He's hardly inexperienced either. Kennett is a strange and poor choice in that regard for me.

 

Its a year too soon for Worrall IMO.

[david2905]

Agree about Kennett being a poor choice, he may be doing alright for Swindon, but he always seems to go missing at the big events like the British Final and World Cups, while Harris and Nicholls are not worldbeaters, they would step up and have a go, Eddie generally seems anonymous, Personally I'd of gone for King, Barker while running into form now, has only turned the corner 4 weeks ago.

 

Agree with Cookie, and Woofy/Bomber were automatic picks.

 

Doint it with Kildemand V Eastbourne is one thing, with Harris against Australia is quite another.

Edited July 2, 2013 by david2905

[Cornishfisherman]

on current form he is so far behind Barker! Ben giving 110% round the boards at Lynn or Kennett hmm tricky one! Middlo has bottled it simple

 

And he doesn't have to have gates 3 or 4 to do the big one on bend one. He does it on any bend . I think Middlo hasn't been watching who is beating who !!Barker has hit a rich vein of form and for comparison purposes Kennett is a good Premier League rider, Barker is a top Premier League rider .

[foamfence]

I think some people are missing the point. GB have no chance of winning, so why not blood some up and coming improving riders?

Cook and Worrall would be top of my list, Harris has the experience both as a rider and an advisor, Woffinden will keep the score respectable.

Kennett (and he's not alone) is a proven flop, and very unlikely to improve to WC level. I would have picked Barker ahead of Kennett, at least you would get 100% effort from him.

[woofers]

I think some people are missing the point. GB have no chance of winning, so why not blood some up and coming improving riders?

Cook and Worrall would be top of my list, Harris has the experience both as a rider and an advisor, Woffinden will keep the score respectable.

Kennett (and he's not alone) is a proven flop, and very unlikely to improve to WC level. I would have picked Barker ahead of Kennett, at least you would get 100% effort from him.

 

Having seen both Worrall and Barker recently, it's a no brainer - Worrall out rode Barker all night.

 

And surely you'll get more than 100% effort from Barker, he tells you in every interview "he gives 110% and his job is to provide entertainment".....you'll also get get someone who appears out of control most of the time and a danger to himself and other riders.

 

I like Super Ted, but the fact is his best meetings are on the smaller tracks (Wolverhampton, Eastbourne, Lakeside ) so probably not the best choice for the Norfolk Arena, but I hope he proves me wrong and has a good meeting.

[kelvinht]

I think some people are missing the point. GB have no chance of winning, so why not blood some up and coming improving riders?

Cook and Worrall would be top of my list, Harris has the experience both as a rider and an advisor, Woffinden will keep the score respectable.

 

and I also don't understand how Richie Lawson wasn't at least in the squad. He's having a pretty decent run at the moment

 

Middloo seems too intent on looking and who has been good rather than having an real eye for the future. Cookie was a start but nowhere near enough....

[Gavan]

 

 

Having seen both Worrall and Barker recently, it's a no brainer - Worrall out rode Barker all night.

 

And surely you'll get more than 100% effort from Barker, he tells you in every interview "he gives 110% and his job is to provide entertainment".....you'll also get get someone who appears out of control most of the time and a danger to himself and other riders.

 

I like Super Ted, but the fact is his best meetings are on the smaller tracks (Wolverhampton, Eastbourne, Lakeside ) so probably not the best choice for the Norfolk Arena, but I hope he proves me wrong and has a good meeting.

how long have you been talking rubbish for? I like Worrall and think he is better option then Kennett but to say he outriders Barker you need you eyes tested! At Ipswich he beat Ben first time up. Next time Ben passed him and then in the last heat Tungate stopped Ben by nearly fencing him! At Newcastle Ben won first time up before Richie beat him and the last time they met Ben passed him on his home track. 3-3 in meetings but Ben passed him twice so to say Richie outriders him is laughable mate. As I say I like Worrall and either him or Ben should be in over Kennett

[Woz01]

I think some people are missing the point. GB have no chance of winning, so why not blood some up and coming improving riders?

Cook and Worrall would be top of my list, Harris has the experience both as a rider and an advisor, Woffinden will keep the score respectable.

Kennett (and he's not alone) is a proven flop, and very unlikely to improve to WC level. I would have picked Barker ahead of Kennett, at least you would get 100% effort from him.

 

Because we have to be at least competitive in this, its all very well throwing kids in but we still need experience in the side. As i said before id have picked Worrall ahead of Kennett the side would have had a bit of youth and experience.

[Mr Blobby]

Kennett proving his pick tonight with a fantastic performance.......

 

 

 

 

:rofl:

Edited July 3, 2013 by Mr Blobby

[Starman2006]

All i'll say is roll on 2014 and hopefully a team manager with some nads.

 

Woffinden

Cook

Worrall

Lambert

 

Who would you prefere rather than Neil then, who could do a better job? Please say it quietly, so i don't fall off my chair with laughter..

[Phil The Ace]

The future is bright for team GB. best its looked for a while

 

Give it 5-10 years and the team will look like this

 

Tai woffinden

Robert lambert ( two 21 point max's in a row)

Adam Ellis

Kyle Bickley (another super talent at only 11)

 

You also have Craig cook an another talent who I've just thought of Zach wajtknecht, this guy is super talented to

 

The future is bright

 

 

Eddie kennett take a bow mate. 1 point from 4 rides tonight. Thoroughly deserves his World Cup spot

[speedy17]

Who would you prefere rather than Neil then, who could do a better job? Please say it quietly, so i don't fall off my chair with laughter..

 

If the BSPA backed Rob Lyon with his plan for the future rather than, nah let's stick with the gash we have now and balls to the future then Rob would still be there and not picking Kennett, and possibly Harris.

 

However he won't be going back anytime soon, if you could tempt Peter Adams to do it then he'd be the man, next in line Phil Morris.

 

Hope you don't hit your head too hard.

Edited July 3, 2013 by speedy17

[SCB]

 

 

Who would you prefere rather than Neil then, who could do a better job? Please say it quietly, so i don't fall off my chair with laughter..

My 4 year old niece will do he job for a packet of Harribo every week. She can pick her favourites too, just like Middlo.

[Gavan]

Who would you prefere rather than Neil then, who could do a better job? Please say it quietly, so i don't fall off my chair with laughter..

about 80% of people on this forum who all said Kennett was a shocking choice BEFORE tonight. Middlo got this totally wrong unless he is told who to pick

 

plus its at Kings Lynn where Kennett isn't very good anyway!! If he misses the start he cant pass and if he makes it he will be passed. If the world cup was at Eastbourne he would be in

[orion]

If the BSPA backed Rob Lyon with his plan for the future rather than, nah let's stick with the gash we have now and balls to the future then Rob would still be there and not picking Kennett, and possibly Harris.

 

However he won't be going back anytime soon, if you could tempt Peter Adams to do it then he'd be the man, next in line Phil Morris.

 

Hope you don't hit your head too hard.

What was Lyon side when he was GB'S TM ?

[mdmc82]

Bit worrying watching Kennett struggle to pass reserves tonight, hows he going to be against Pedersen lol.

He started last season well and then dipped at around June

[Derwent]

What was Lyon side when he was GB'S TM ?

 

In his first season as GB manager he picked a very young 5 man team for the SWC - Harris was the oldest rider at 26, followed by King & Kennett (both 22), Bridger (19) and Woffinden (18).

[woofers]

how long have you been talking rubbish for? I like Worrall and think he is better option then Kennett but to say he outriders Barker you need you eyes tested! At Ipswich he beat Ben first time up. Next time Ben passed him and then in the last heat Tungate stopped Ben by nearly fencing him! At Newcastle Ben won first time up before Richie beat him and the last time they met Ben passed him on his home track. 3-3 in meetings but Ben passed him twice so to say Richie outriders him is laughable mate. As I say I like Worrall and either him or Ben should be in over Kennett

 

Thank you so much for your observation, the rubbish I was talking about is displayed in the facts below which is the meeting that I saw both Barker and Worrall ride in. I certainly don't need my eyes tested, I was there and saw a much better display of speedway from Richie Worrall than Ben Barker. Worrall also came over better in his trackside interview, articulate and noting that he has had a couple of really good meetings at Arlington.

 

I remain convinced that Barker is generally out of control on a speedway bike, and in that respect Worrall out rides him - laugh if you like.

 

Eastbourne Eagles = 35

 

1. Bjarne Pedersen 2, 3, 1, 1, 0 = 7

2. R/R

3. Simon Gustafsson 3, 2, 2, 2', 1, 2 = 12+1

4. Timo Lahti 0, 0, 3, 0 = 3

5. Cameron Woodward 2, 2, 0, 1, 0 = 5

6. Kim Nilsson 0, 3, 0, 1', 0, 2 = 6+1

7. Denis Gizatulin 2', 0, 0, 0 = 2+1

 

 

Poole Pirates = 55

 

1. Chris Holder 3, 3, 3, 2', 3, 3 = 17+1

2. Rohan Tungate 1, 2, 1, Ex = 4

3. R/R

4. Mikkel Bech Jensen 1', 3, 2', 2', 3 = 11+3

5. Ben Barker 1, 2, 1, 1, 2', 1 = 8+1

6. Anders Mellgren 0, 1', Ex = 1+1

7. Richie Worrall 1, 3, 3, 3, 3, 1 = 14

 

[CB252]

Regardless of who should or shouldn't be in the team, the main problem with the GB Setup is that we only have two meetings a year in the World Cup.

 

How ruddy difficult is it to organise a three match test series with Denmark or the Aussies (who are all based here anyway) or both, to blood guys like Worrall, Barker, Cook et al, without having to make a decision to omit them from a four man team for one meeting at King's Lynn.

 

Old style test matches with 6 man teams, plus two reserves that could be used freely, competing over 18 heats. Simple concept that worked perfectly well for years on end until it was scrapped, like most other good competitions in Speedway.

[Gavan]

 

 

Thank you so much for your observation, the rubbish I was talking about is displayed in the facts below which is the meeting that I saw both Barker and Worrall ride in. I certainly don't need my eyes tested, I was there and saw a much better display of speedway from Richie Worrall than Ben Barker. Worrall also came over better in his trackside interview, articulate and noting that he has had a couple of really good meetings at Arlington.

 

I remain convinced that Barker is generally out of control on a speedway bike, and in that respect Worrall out rides him - laugh if you like.

 

Eastbourne Eagles = 35

 

1. Bjarne Pedersen 2, 3, 1, 1, 0 = 7

2. R/R

3. Simon Gustafsson 3, 2, 2, 2', 1, 2 = 12+1

4. Timo Lahti 0, 0, 3, 0 = 3

5. Cameron Woodward 2, 2, 0, 1, 0 = 5

6. Kim Nilsson 0, 3, 0, 1', 0, 2 = 6+1

7. Denis Gizatulin 2', 0, 0, 0 = 2+1

 

 

Poole Pirates = 55

 

1. Chris Holder 3, 3, 3, 2', 3, 3 = 17+1

2. Rohan Tungate 1, 2, 1, Ex = 4

3. R/R

4. Mikkel Bech Jensen 1', 3, 2', 2', 3 = 11+3

5. Ben Barker 1, 2, 1, 1, 2', 1 = 8+1

6. Anders Mellgren 0, 1', Ex = 1+1

7. Richie Worrall 1, 3, 3, 3, 3, 1 = 14

so Ben at 5 and Worrall at reserve is a good comparison plus it's at a track that doesn't suit Barker. Worrall is going to be a good rider but to say Barker is out of control is absurd. Give him a racetrack and he will race. As I said either of these two over Kennett