PHILIPRISING Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 BSI also have nothing to do with whoever gets wild card pick for GP Challenge. For all I know, or you, just as many if not more people agreed with Harris getting Cardiff wild card than not. He certainly got a huge reception at the Milllennium. Chris is a frustrating enigma because there is no doubt he has huge ability, although not from the gate which is the root cause of many of his problems. But whatever he might be accused of, not caring about riding for GB is not one of them. As far as I know he has never actually informed Neil Middleditch (or Rob Lyon previously) that he wasn't prepared to race for his country. He may have said something in the heat of the moment but I am sure it was just that. One thing you always get from Chris is 100 per cent effort even if that doesn't always translate into the points he or we would like to see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 BSI also have nothing to do with whoever gets wild card pick for GP Challenge. For all I know, or you, just as many if not more people agreed with Harris getting Cardiff wild card than not. He certainly got a huge reception at the Milllennium. I'm not having that Phil. The place would have been rocking regardless of who had the GB flag on their chest. You could throw Kelvin Tatum out there as Wildcard and the place would still be jumping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Woffinden..Harris..Cook..King You have to pick the top 4 riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Woffinden..Harris..Cook..King You have to pick the top 4 riders. KIng you are joking! Gate sometimes from behind not a hope! he has had his chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 my thoughts are, tai, worrall, bridger, barker tai, speaks for himself, worrall,esp at lynn rising talent not phased by anyone bridger, this year really has sorted himself out a lot wont give him their vote due to previous antics/actions but i do believe he has shown enough to warrant it. barker, again like worrall not phased is riding well at the moment against everyone and will give it his all left out cook, feels he is nearly there but if doesnt gate not always the most committed, as proved at cardiff harris , sorry past it, should never have been w/c at cardiff, not the same guy i cheered on to win cardiff years ago, the past is the past auty, like him in league racing but sorry not going to get any better and gating is shocking something he should have corrected by now howarth, shouldnt be in the squad, lawson and birks at this time are way ahead of him but he will possibly get there in couple of years kennett, earlier in season i would of put ed in but has gone off boil lately, king, again like autyin league but never going to get any better time to move froward, a bit like the danes have done, a lot wont give us much hope anyway so use it to blood some young guys like lewis and richie, cook just needs to harden up a bit and is there then, a lot of youngster (u25) that are showing promise for the future and imo it is a shame more of them are not being used in the gb / aus tests that are taking place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 cook, feels he is nearly there but if doesnt gate not always the most committed, as proved at cardiff Spoken by someone who clearly has not seen him race much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) Worrall but no Cook? Can't agree with that, or that you are judging Cook from a couple of rides on a ploughed field when he was a reserve.i Whoever is picked lets hope that the squad gets a practice session at Lynn some time before the meeting to give them the best chance. Edited June 30, 2013 by Bagpuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 no not just from gp performance on craig, just looking at him in general, i just think at times he is not hard enough and can roll it at times when he could push like i say that is my only critisiscm of him other than that he has got it, just the others as i say imo are more forceful when needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 no not just from gp performance on craig, just looking at him in general, i just think at times he is not hard enough and can roll it at times when he could push like i say that is my only critisiscm of him other than that he has got it, just the others as i say imo are more forceful when needed Worrall is the same in that respect. Seems to easily shoved out of the way IMO. Id; say Cook has a slight edge over Worrall at the moment but both are very similar riders. Good gaters, not the best at passing (but can) and a little too easily moved out of the way. Minor criticisms int he scheme of things though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Middlo has announced it will be Tai Woffinden, Chris Harris, Craig Cook and Edward Kennett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 What a disgrace that Kennet is in the team over Worral or Barker. Joke decision. Hope GB get stuffed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy17 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Barker, Worrall, King, Bridger should all be infront of Kennett on EL and PL form, and also on Kings Lynn experience. Not to mention the fact he's a convicted cheat. Woeful choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Middleditch has said that it was a 'hard call' to pick Kennett. I bet. Imagine how much easier it would have been if he had been riding well enough. . Edited July 1, 2013 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Barker, Worrall, King, Bridger should all be infront of Kennett on EL and PL form, and also on Kings Lynn experience. Not to mention the fact he's a convicted cheat. Woeful choice. Based on the actual EL racing averages for this Season that appear in the Speedway Star, as at 25/6, they were :- Woffinden 10.55, Kennett 8.63, Cook 8.00, King 7.71, Harris 7.15, Barker 7.04, Bridger 6.86, Worrall 6.56, Howarth 4.35 If Middleditch based his selection mainly on these, then the stats vindicate including Kennett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Based on the actual EL racing averages for this Season that appear in the Speedway Star, as at 25/6, they were :- Woffinden 10.55, Kennett 8.63, Cook 8.00, King 7.71, Harris 7.15, Barker 7.04, Bridger 6.86, Worrall 6.56, Howarth 4.35 If Middleditch based his selection mainly on these, then the stats vindicate including Kennett. But it would also make the job of a Manager choosing obsolete. And Harris would have to be dropped in favour of King, by the same logic. . Edited July 1, 2013 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 But it would also make the job of a Manager choosing obsolete. And Harris would have to be dropped in favour of King, by the same logic. . You seem to have missed I said mainly, not exclusively - there is a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 You seem to have missed I said mainly, not exclusively - there is a difference Not missed. Just misunderstood. You did say mainly, that is true. But it seems that you really meant 'ONLY where it makes my point,' 'Disregard all other information and make no other inferences of your own. You must work by my rules.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Barker, Worrall, King, Bridger should all be infront of Kennett on EL and PL form, and also on Kings Lynn experience. Not to mention the fact he's a convicted cheat. Woeful choice. Must agree, its a disgraceful choice, but not surprised. Its the sort of team all 50yr olds are picking these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Would you have picked Edward Kennett? Personally, I don't think he is international class. The British team have no chance of winning the thing but we have some very good prospects coming along, they need experience at this level, much as the Danes have done recently. My choice would have been Worrall (surely a big future) or Barker (guaranteed effort). But who would YOU have picked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red5 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Guess Eddie has been on his knees again before the old boys network. If this is what Middlo wants to pick so be it, but has made the choice for me easier.Dont want to watch, Dont need to watch and can spend my money elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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