semion Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Reading Dale Allitts Column last night it appears The Kings Lynn Young Stars had all sorts to put up with at their recent trip to Stoke. Track in its worst ever state, and dangerous, riders not happy to race on it. No lighting in the changing rooms or toilets. The Stoke Promoter threatening to punch someone from the Kings Lynn team in the face. It appears Lynn are not prepared to ride in the 4's meeting at Stoke, and have applied to have it moved to another track. To think Stoke where once a respected Prmier League outfit. I am surprised a good old Norfolk boy like Malc Vasey wants to be involved with a club like that. Or is it all a storm in a teacup ? Edited June 13, 2013 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 track was dreadful. meeting was dreadful, i for one wont be going back in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Its not like Dale to make comments like that. He's as passionate about his speedway as anyone I have met but in contrast with some of the others he's very fair too. Mildenhall weren't impressed either, apparently. I am due to go on Saturday (weather permitting) so I'll say my piece then. Edited June 13, 2013 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Interesting. Track wasn't at its best, but those who attacked it got their rewards, as proven with Kyle Hughes posting quick times. To say it was in its "Worst state ever" is a bit much. From a fans PoV, the falls mainly came about through inexperience, other than potentially the heat 12 incident where both KL riders lifted on bend 3. Unfortunately for KL, most of the time Stoke were out of the gate quicker, and they didn't seem able to pass. Lewis Kerr had a terrible meeting, with two EF's (Of which I am sure the track was to blame...) and a fall, but it was a team who just wasn't at the races. I can't comment on the pits situation, because I am not privy to what goes on there, other than to say I presume Mr Allitt has offered to pay for the telephone that he broke in the pits? My thoughts on the Stoke promotion have been made clear in other threads, so I'm not going to go back over them here. As for Saturday, given that it currently appears to be monsoon season outside, it may not be possible to judge for yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 it wasnt just the track, the whole presentation was poor. the stadium is a dive, the facilities are terrible. the tractor broke down on track, then the air fence collapsed as well/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 it wasnt just the track, the whole presentation was poor. the stadium is a dive, the facilities are terrible. the tractor broke down on track, then the air fence collapsed as well/ Stoke has never been comparable to the ritz, and given that our normal centre green announcer was in the box doing the results, the presentation wouldn't be the best. However, the air fence didn't just magically collapse, if you remember someone hit it (I think it was Payne in heat 12, and it was going down just before heat 13) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 According to Alllitt it was Nigel Crabtree who described the track as the worst its been. Allitt went on to describe the track as dangerous. Does anyone know who The Stoke promotor threatened ? What really surprises me is Malcolm Vasey has anything to do with it there. I always had a lot of respect for this particular gentleman. He also had a long association with Boston at Saddlebow road. Shame if he gets tared with the same brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosetash64 Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 The track was a joke. I'm surprised the riders didn't get seasick going down the straights, there where that many bumps in the track. Bend 3 was particularly bad in that there was a ridge halfway across the track that was impossible to miss and if you did then you would have ended up in the fence anyway. The track has gone downhill a lot in the last 2 years or so and its a real shame as the view of the track is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordslider Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 The track was a joke. I'm surprised the riders didn't get seasick going down the straights, there where that many bumps in the track. Bend 3 was particularly bad in that there was a ridge halfway across the track that was impossible to miss and if you did then you would have ended up in the fence anyway. The track has gone downhill a lot in the last 2 years or so and its a real shame as the view of the track is great. You are right the last two years the track has gone right down hill, last Saturday the track was awefull as was the racing. infact it wasnt racing it was more like survival. I think you will find it was Dale that was threatened and the people that witnessed it said the Stoke promoters behavour was disgusting. Its a shame as the racing used to be good there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGER69 Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Its not on to put notes in the programe . Complain to the SCB. What was the refs opinion?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craftman Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Will the track be another reason why Stoke beat the IOW tonight ? It's the same for both sides FCS ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) I am no expert but I didn't think there was anything wrong tonight. Indeed, I thought it was a good meeting with several entertaining races. Good to see Smarty scoring a few points, but the two I was impressed with were Ritchings and Payne. Ritchings certainly had no fears about the track and attacked it at every opportunity, whilst I haven't seen Payne before but he looked like a very useful reserve indeed. Edited June 15, 2013 by Halifaxtiger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffo Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 I am no expert but I didn't think there was anything wrong tonight. Indeed, I thought it was a good meeting with several entertaining races. Good to see Smarty scoring a few points, but the two I was impressed with were Ritchings and Payne. Ritchings certainly had no fears about the track and attacked it at every opportunity, whilst I haven't seen Payne before but he looked like a very useful reserve indeed. Correct in your post where you say that IOW.attacked the track and produced good racing , that being the fact ,K L did not attack the track where as the Stoke riders did, and as a previous poster has said the track is the same for both teams,last night the programme went through without any moaning from the I.O.W. management unlike the previous week. Cheers Griffo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Perhaps some track work had been done before last nights meeting and on wednesday stoke will see what a proper track is like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaptooth Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 lets not pretend the track was good last night,. It wasn`t, it was shiiite. Any track with a set of woops on the back straight isn`t good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffo Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 lets not pretend the track was good last night,. It wasn`t, it was shiiite. Any track with a set of woops on the back straight isn`t good. Nobody is saying the track was perfect what I was saying was that the tracks the same for both teams, whatever the state,and that on Saturday the Isle road the track and attacked it as well as Stoke did and as a Result the match was good right up to the last heat decider. Where as previosly K.L. didnt and because of it moaned instead of getting on with it Cheers Griffo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I can't comment ontnd other night but the previous time IOW were there I picked up shed loads of nuts and bolts, bits of sharp metal, broken glass and god knows what else off the track The management were busy screwing back the outside boards and attattching the air fence after being instructed to by the referee and woe betide anyone who dared put a front wheel inside the track as the kerbstones were all over the place and there was a foot deep drop on the inside. It was my first visit to the place and its a dump. Pure and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) I can't comment ontnd other night but the previous time IOW were there I picked up shed loads of nuts and bolts, bits of sharp metal, broken glass and god knows what else off the track The management were busy screwing back the outside boards and attattching the air fence after being instructed to by the referee and woe betide anyone who dared put a front wheel inside the track as the kerbstones were all over the place and there was a foot deep drop on the inside. It was my first visit to the place and its a dump. Pure and simple. I really don't think that a judgement can be made wholly based upon past experiences. I went to the NL fours at Stoke last season and the track was an absolute disgrace, the worst I have seen anywhere for several seasons. But Saturday was nothing like that. There was some good racing, which usually indicates that the riders are confident enough to attack the track and try and pass the opposition. It could be that it was recognised that the track the week before wasn't good enough and that measures were taken to improve it. Lets give a bit of credit to Stoke for that and trust that it continues. Loomer Road has a superb shape - in my opinion, one of if not the best in the country. Prepared properly, it would be one of the best racing tracks too. Edited June 18, 2013 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ommer Mon Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I agree with Halifaxtiger that the shape of the track is really good and when we were there in '96 there was some excellent racing especially when Mr Hamill missed the occasional start. I know from comments made at the time by Les Pottinger and Jan O just how difficult it was to get the track into shape after a stock car meeting. They used to pick up all sorts of bits and pieces and I remember one occasion when they had to drag a car axel out after it had been rammed in to the surface. The place hasn't been the same since Dudley started racing there again and we have had numerous delays, track lights failing, paramedics not arriving for two hours etc etc. I limit my visits to when Dudley are racing there because I don't have the confidence that meetings are going to be completed in a reasonable time. It's sad that it seems to have derteriorated lately but I'm not sure how much of that is down to the Speedway folks as they don't own the Stadium and could be trying to put on a show under difficult circumstances. I'm sure more would go more regularly if the track and, therefore, racing improved but that may take money that isn't readily available (a common theme in our sport). I don't want to get too gloomy here. Let's hope that the Potters can turn things around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 No thats true the Speedway management dont own the Stadium, but Dave Tatum has a pretty much free hand, if you want to put on Stock Car racing, or any event there it has to go through Dave Tatum, so i am pretty sure he pays a flat rate for the rental from Corbetts the local Bookmakers who ARE the owners of the Track, but Dave Tatum it is who does changes to the Track, so its his "baby" to improve the facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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