Triple.H. Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 The council could just send someone suitably qualified at 7pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Shaker Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 I very much doubt that Sheffield City Council employ anyone who is "suitably qualified" to inspect something as specific as a speedway safety fence with any authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Regardless of whether or not it has to be inspected, doesn't the problem remain that there isn't enough time between the dogs finishing and the speedway starting to erect an air fence due to the size/length of sheffield's bends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Have a very large task force of volunteers to get it set up? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobs Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Rather than having this endless discussion on what will happen at Sheffield, there are other PL tracks where there will have to be a "soft barrier" installed if they are to run speedway in 2014. Â Somerset shouldn't have a problem, nor might Redcar nor Plymouth. These are speedway facilities, where installation can be achieved -- not cheaply, but achieved. If it was felt the fence had to be hung on the existing outer fence, their inside lines might be reduced to maintain track width. Â Edinburgh and Newcastle have the problem of adjusting fencing to suit sight-lines for greyhound patrons, but again might be expected to find a way around this long-overdue regulation coming in, as they have the places such as Wolverhampton or Belle Vue (with similar stadiums) to model on. Â Glasgow and Workington have the problem of being unable to widen their tracks by taking the inside line in after installing a barrier because of rugby or soccer ground-sharing. Glasgow are also known to be financially embarrassed. Â Then there are the two tracks most-discussed on this thread, Rye House and Sheffield. Â Interesting times ahead, I predict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 The only comment I can make on this thread is that I have seen several high speed hits on the new polyfoam fence that are very similar to previous hits. Without fail, every rider has been able to walk back to the pits (no, I don't mean every spill, before anyone decide to mis-interpret what I am saying). Â To take one example, when Jac Rempala hit the 3rd bend fence square on with his back, he was badly injured: I think broken back. There was an almost exact hit last year (I forget who) and they walked back to the pits. Â It has undoubtedly saved a large number of nasty injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 The council could just send someone suitably qualified at 7pm and there would be a obvious charge everytime they came to inspect it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I think by not giving notice the this new rule will be in force in 2014 (if in fact this is the case) they have not been very fair on the clubs in this situation. A seasons notice would be minimum IMO . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I think by not giving notice the this new rule will be in force in 2014 (if in fact this is the case) they have not been very fair on the clubs in this situation. A seasons notice would be minimum IMO . Berwick were told in 2010 and i presume every other club would be that air/foam fences would become mandatory in the next 3 to 4 years, which as we now know has come to fruition. Also i think common sense say's it had to happen  I think by not giving notice the this new rule will be in force in 2014 (if in fact this is the case) they have not been very fair on the clubs in this situation. A seasons notice would be minimum IMO . Berwick were told in 2010 and i presume every other club would be that air/foam fences would become mandatory in the next 3 to 4 years, which as we now know has come to fruition. Also i think common sense say's it had to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 This is not just for PL tracks it applies to all tracks staging league racing. Will be hard for most tracks to finance in the PL but I believe they will be staging a meeting/s to help fund them as the EL did. Not sure how the NL can afford them as riders would have to ride for nothing for most of if not all season!!!!. An air fence at Buxton will cost around £18000 - not sure where we can get that sort of money from but we will be trying our best through various fund raising activities. We found out less than a week ago so not much time to get organised for March 1st 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited)  Berwick were told in 2010 and i presume every other club would be that air/foam fences would become mandatory in the next 3 to 4 years, which as we now know has come to fruition. Also i think common sense say's it had to happen   Berwick were told in 2010 and i presume every other club would be that air/foam fences would become mandatory in the next 3 to 4 years, which as we now know has come to fruition. Also i think common sense say's it had to happen Is there an official statement regarding this matter and from whom.you can't say to a club in the next 3-4 years without giving a statement surely.Where is the statement regarding next season? Have just read that Jayne who is the Buxton Promoter found out last week,no wonder Speedway is going down the tubes,!! Edited June 11, 2013 by Fromafar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 If only some of the sky cash had been set aside for such tracks. Instead of giving it in inflated wages to elite "stars" :-( 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Is there an official statement regarding this matter and from whom.you can't say to a club in the next 3-4 years without giving a statement surely.Where is the statement regarding next season? Have just read that Jayne who is the Buxton Promoter found out last week,no wonder Speedway is going down the tubes,!! Â Every promoter got the news from the ACU/SCB at the same time. This is an FIM edict, and surely wasn't unexpected. Â Full marks to clubs like Berwick who acted in good time, avoiding an emergency fund-raising situation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Â Â Every promoter got the news from the ACU/SCB at the same time. This is an FIM edict, and surely wasn't unexpected. Â Full marks to clubs like Berwick who acted in good time, avoiding an emergency fund-raising situation Come on your trying to tell me that telling promotions they have 3-4 years before something might happen is the way to run Speedway .Surely at least 1full seasons notice should have been given when something has been confirmed.we all know Berwick are the way forward but this issue should have been dealt with better IMO.This has serious financial issues for some Clubs to raise the funding in such a short timescale.I believe some clubs will close unless there are some very good sponsors out there.Clubs certainly rely on sponsors more and more these days with attendances falling at most Clubs.Ps What was the attendance at Berwick at the Week-end.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Come on your trying to tell me that telling promotions they have 3-4 years before something might happen is the way to run Speedway .Surely at least 1full seasons notice should have been given when something has been confirmed.we all know Berwick are the way forward but this issue should have been dealt with better IMO.This has serious financial issues for some Clubs to raise the funding in such a short timescale.I believe some clubs will close unless there are some very good sponsors out there.Clubs certainly rely on sponsors more and more these days with attendances falling at most Clubs. Ps What was the attendance at Berwick at the Week-end.? Â For a regular poster who usually makes some sense, might you have a head-in-the-sand attitude to the soft barrier issue here? Â It was well enough known, and well-discussed, by promoters at their meetings that this was coming, even if the official confirmation was only presented to everyone earlier this month. Â PS: I don't know, as I wasn't too well and couldn't go on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Â Â For a regular poster who usually makes some sense, might you have a head-in-the-sand attitude to the soft barrier issue here? Â It was well enough known, and well-discussed, by promoters at their meetings that this was coming, even if the official confirmation was only presented to everyone earlier this month. Â PS: I don't know, as I wasn't too well and couldn't go on Saturday. In your opinion. You seem to be well informed regarding what has been quoted"behind the scenes" the point I am making is that in the circumstances and importance of the matter regarding air fences the arrangements should be dealt with on a more professional level from the people that run the sport.Jayne is the Promoter at Buxton and she echoes your comments regarding only being informed in the last few weeks which IMO is shoddy.I do not have a"head in the sand "attitude to Air Fences that's just your opinion.Maybe on of your friends could give you an estimate on the attendance.Hope you are feeling better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluthetiger Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Have it on good authority that Glasgow cannot under any circumstances install an air-fence at Ashfield, although -- if funding was available -- a foam-fence might be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbogge Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Buxton`s track was being mesured on the bends last Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vog Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 For a regular poster who usually makes some sense, might you have a head-in-the-sand attitude to the soft barrier issue here? Â It was well enough known, and well-discussed, by promoters at their meetings that this was coming, even if the official confirmation was only presented to everyone earlier this month. Â PS: I don't know, as I wasn't too well and couldn't go on Saturday. Â Don't forget, NL promoters aren't at the PL/EL meeting (Unless they promote a PL/EL club as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevL Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Another money making scheme by the big wigs, final nail in the coffin for most speedway clubs, would like to see what evidence they do have to say the airfence are safer than wire mesh fences, most of injuries are caused by the wayward BIKES or landing on SOLID floor got nothing to do with fences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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