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Well that was a badly run meeting as many are saying. Spoke to grajczonek after and he said that it was cookies fault and he probably had the best view of everyone tbh.

 

Well done edinburgh but I also have to say I'm proud of the rebels, missing doyle was a big blow so to reach the finals and be winning with two races left was brilliant.

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I wait till Cook comes charging under the GP riders to see what the outcome will be hope he has brakes fitted he will need them IMO.

 

What an irrelevant comment...gp racing is hard and riders like nickki pederson, Gollob etc wont throttle back if a gap is there. If a rider does that and it does unfortunately cause a crash that is where the referee has to make a call, if you pass the opponent, it's called a great move. It's racing.

 

Hope injured Boys are good

 

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Will there be a dvd of the meeting? Hopefully it can be fitted onto a 2hr dvdr though! ;)

They could produce a 'referees cut' version - Babs misses so much that it would fit comfortably into an hour slot!
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What an irrelevant comment...gp racing is hard and riders like nickki pederson, Gollob etc wont throttle back if a gap is there. If a rider does that and it does unfortunately cause a crash that is where the referee has to make a call, if you pass the opponent, it's called a great move. It's racing.

 

Hope injured Boys are good

Craig is a class act in the PL .Lets see what he can produce at GP level although tonight is not that high with injuries ect.Hope GB make the Final then we shall see.Its a forum why should I not be allowed to make comments whether you think they are irrelevant or not.
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He's a very lucky man think we all thought it was a serious injury .

Wonder if any of the comments on yesterday's meeting will be taken in by the powered that be or just ignored as usual

I've been told that he's back home in France with cuts and heavy bruising, nothing more. Apparantly he was out cold for 2 or 3 minutes, which would mean him out for a preiod of time, seven days?

 

Agree with the other comments about Cook. He is a class act, no doubt. Looking forward to seeing him continue his speedway education for Team GB tonight

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Although the meeting did drag on forever and the constant re-starts were part of that, I think Babs is getting a lot of undue stick over the Bellego/Tungate incident.

 

Cook came fast under Bellego, but it looked clean to me. It was Bellego who lost control (possibly distracted by Cook passing him where he hadn't expected), ploughing into the back of Tungate. Therefore, the correct rider was excluded.

 

All the best

Rob

The fact that Cook was going in too hard and caused the domino effect meant he was to blame and the Referee should be brave enough to make the call.
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Well I spoke to fans from Rye , Somerset , Leicester and Workington , everyone agreed it was Cook who caused the crash and he got off Scott free !

 

Of course Edinburgh fans will disagree but you only see what you want to , its simple , he didn't like being passed and went into 1st bend too hot and created the domino effect .

 

It's just a shame that a certain referee didn't see it , well she couldn't have could she ?

 

At least one mare of a decision per meeting is her average so why should this have been any different .

 

Bless her , she was probably having her afternoon nap at the time !

She usually takes her knitting up to the box with her, so you can imagine she might miss a few things, not to mention dropping a stitch or two. She could've knitted a large jumper in the time it took to run that yesterday

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The fact that Cook was going in too hard and caused the domino effect meant he was to blame and the Referee should be brave enough to make the call.

correct... It was a desperate move...not one person I spoke to thought it was bellegos fault.. Still he was so fast compared to anyone else apart from one race maybe when he just spun off gate 4.

gate 4 is shocking at the show ground, with riders out there having little or no chance early doors..great racing ESP in the final, only marred by that incident.

 

Lastly these events are daylight robbery nowadays... Burger and chips £6.20... Wtf!!

 

 

 

She usually takes her knitting up to the box with her, so you can imagine she might miss a few things, not to mention dropping a stitch or two. She could've knitted a large jumper in the time it took to run that yesterday

heard she can knit blindfolded..... And officiate :)
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unwanted speedway records keep tumbling for me this season. after the 2.5 hour ambulance delay at rye house last month, yesterdays fours event was the longest meeting i have ever attended in over 40 years of watching speedway. crash delays can't be helped but power failures, faulty starting gates and tyre disputes can. on the plus side there was some excellent racing and i thought the track staff did a decent job in keeping the dust down on a very hot day.

Remind me to not to go to any more meetings when you're there Tony. ... I will be at Rye House on Saturday if you don't mind cutting the grass or cleaning the car then please....

NB the tarmac on the m25 jct 23 melted causing me a slight detour

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The fact that Cook was going in too hard and caused the domino effect meant he was to blame and the Referee should be brave enough to make the call.

 

But Cook didn't make contact (I think) and he didn't lose control. It's not an excludable fence to pass someone. Cook left Bellego with room to race.

 

I'm glad that Babs Horley is a ref, rather than a few on here. Otherwise overtaking would be banned. :o;)

 

All the best

Rob

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But Cook didn't make contact (I think) and he didn't lose control. It's not an excludable fence to pass someone. Cook left Bellego with room to race.

 

I'm glad that Babs Horley is a ref, rather than a few on here. Otherwise overtaking would be banned. :o;)

 

All the best

Rob

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The fact that Cook was going in too hard and caused the domino effect meant he was to blame and the Referee should be brave enough to make the call.

 

I don't think brave comes into it, she is just an awful referee, very good I am told on fire extinguishers out of date or missing environment mats but crap when it comes to the actual racing.

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The fact that Cook was going in too hard and caused the domino effect meant he was to blame and the Referee should be brave enough to make the call.

 

I didn't have a good view of this but I was told that there was contact.

 

If Rob is right, though, then the correct decision was made because its a matter of Bellego losing control.

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Had chance to go to this meeting right up until the last minute, but to be honest could not sum up interest to go with no Sheffield and generally a bit of disillusionment with the sport at the moment, and feel as though I made the right decision.

 

For me I would not have cared who as long as it was not Scunthorpe, I fail to see how you can announce on the Friday that they have dropped a rider (Palm Toft) and then bring him back for the fours, just about sums the sport up a lately.

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But Cook didn't make contact (I think) and he didn't lose control. It's not an excludable fence to pass someone. Cook left Bellego with room to race.

 

I'm glad that Babs Horley is a ref, rather than a few on here. Otherwise overtaking would be banned. :o;)

 

All the best

Rob

cook didn't overtake, he didn't even undertake, he ran into the back end of bellego bike which is why he shot forward, and lost control. If you think a pass was made you clearly didn't have a good or the correct view. But as always everyone is entitled to an opinion even if it is wrong.
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Will there be a dvd of the meeting? Hopefully it can be fitted onto a 2hr dvdr though! ;)

Boxed set required, absolute disgrace 5.5 hours to run a meeting only the BSPA can arrange that

 

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I don't think brave comes into it, she is just an awful referee, very good I am told on fire extinguishers out of date or missing environment mats but crap when it comes to the actual racing.

I've been told that from other Refs, she never misses a thing off the track, but she does have a problem with what's happening on it. But just one more gripe about yesterday, NO BLOODY ICE CREAM VAN!!! What's that all about? At least we cant blame the BSPA for that.

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Remind me to not to go to any more meetings when you're there Tony. ... I will be at Rye House on Saturday if you don't mind cutting the grass or cleaning the car then please....

NB the tarmac on the m25 jct 23 melted causing me a slight detour

hi mike, sundays fours was just light training for this coming saturdays marathon at the launch pad. i've got over the 2 hour sprint at kent last night, my sleeping bag is packed and i'm ready to go! :wink:
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Complete shambles and farce, 5.5hours for a meeting, not enough medical cover, start tapes hadn't been tried hence needed replaced, £6.00 for fish & chips and £3.75 for a small glass of wine :blink: , you could go on !!! As for the Ref another story.... what a huge shame for what is usually a good day out . Congrats to Edinburgh , can;t have been many supporters left by that point to congratulate them :rolleyes:

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