Long Eye Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 What sort of "Longtrack" is at Rzeszow? Is it a bespoke "longer" track or are they allowing Longtrack bikes on the speedway track? It's being held at the speedway track. The FIM reduced the minimum length of longtracks to 350m to allow this track to be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 What sort of "Longtrack" is at Rzeszow? Is it a bespoke "longer" track or are they allowing Longtrack bikes on the speedway track? 392 m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 No offence but this Rzeszow longtrack 'GP' is a big joke. These boys should be riding on tracks like 600 meters or longer, but not on a 400 meter speedway track. Polish riders have no interest in longtrack at all, so that's why they come up with Stanislaw Burza as the wildcard and two Czech riders as reserve (one talented girl, but also a 50 year old veteran) .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 It's being held at the speedway track. The FIM reduced the minimum length of longtracks to 350m to allow this track to be used. It will be very interesting to compare race times between the long-trackers and the usual league speedway races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawel115 Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Apparently it was very good meeting at Rzeszow with lots of passing too bad crowd was not big for Gp racing I was surprised too to see long track speedway there all turned out good thou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 @ Pawel115 - what were the race times in the Longtrack and how do they compare with the league speedway race times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Well i did ask Joonas at Brokstedt(398m,i think) earlier this season about the track and which bike would be faster.He said the speedway bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreso Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 @ Pawel115 - what were the race times in the Longtrack and how do they compare with the league speedway race times? Longtrack best time: 68,69 League race time (August 4. 2013): 65,90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Thanks for the information. Very interesting. Am I right in thinking that the maneuverability of the speedway bike is what gives it the advantage on a "short" track? I would guess that over 1km with bends that go on and on and on, having an agile bike isn't so important, and brute force and power will win the day for the LT bikes? I wonder where the cross-over point is? 600m? 800m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Videos of 6 races from Rzeszow http://www.sportowefakty.pl/longtrack/376873/zobacz-udany-debiut-stanislawa-burzy-wideo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I have found the heat results for the Rzeszow Longtrack meeting on Sportowefakty but I am unable to finish updating my Series Spreadsheet until I find out the Gates chosen for the semi-finals and Final. Does anyone have any idea where I could find these? Also, can anyone help with the meanings of the non-finishing codes as posted on Sportowefakty? (w), (d5), (w/u), (d3), (u4) and (t) I presume the numbers indicate which lap an incident occurred? Thanks in advance for any help anyone is able to give. ATB Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I have found the heat results for the Rzeszow Longtrack meeting on Sportowefakty but I am unable to finish updating my Series Spreadsheet until I find out the Gates chosen for the semi-finals and Final. Does anyone have any idea where I could find these? Also, can anyone help with the meanings of the non-finishing codes as posted on Sportowefakty? (w), (d5), (w/u), (d3), (u4) and (t) I presume the numbers indicate which lap an incident occurred? Thanks in advance for any help anyone is able to give. ATB Dave I asked this question once in the forums and received the following (from more than one Polish poster) D = Engine failure(Retirement) T = Tapes Exclusion U = Fell W = Excluded(Disqualified) W/U = Excluded Fell You can always double check next time Polish speedway is on or look for videos and tally it up with the on screen graphics or contents of match reports and heat results. Alternatively check the abbreviations listed in the Sportowefakty heat results against a recent SGP or similar meeting where you have an English version of what happened. The live updates on Sportowefakty would be a good way to check, as they give a summary of each heat. In addition to the Polish racing you can watch online they obviously cover overseas meetings such as the SGP, SEC and the Swedish and UK Elite Leagues. But the above definitions should certainly be correct anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) Heat 22 line-up semi-final 2(from my video link )From the curb: Josef Franc (red helmet), Martin Smolinski (blue helmet), Stanisław Burza(white helmet), Stephane Tresarieu (excluded for touching the tapes), Cameron Woodward (green helmet) Heat 21 semi-final 1 video Video of final If you know the result hopefully you can work out start/helmet colour. Edited August 12, 2013 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Thanks for your help guys. All sorted now. ATB Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) I have found the heat results for the Rzeszow Longtrack meeting on Sportowefakty but I am unable to finish updating my Series Spreadsheet until I find out the Gates chosen for the semi-finals and Final. Does anyone have any idea where I could find these? Also, can anyone help with the meanings of the non-finishing codes as posted on Sportowefakty? (w), (d5), (w/u), (d3), (u4) and (t) I presume the numbers indicate which lap an incident occurred? Thanks in advance for any help anyone is able to give. ATB Dave The number indicates the position that the rider had when it happened. Edited August 13, 2013 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 The number indicates the position that the rider had when it happened. Thanks again f-s-p. I tried to PM you but it said you were unable to take any more messages. One more thing.... Can you tell me the Reserve Riders (21&22) for the first three rounds. I have searched the FIM site, but it doesn't list reserves if they didn't get a ride. Thanks, ATB Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Thanks again f-s-p. I tried to PM you but it said you were unable to take any more messages. One more thing.... Can you tell me the Reserve Riders (21&22) for the first three rounds. I have searched the FIM site, but it doesn't list reserves if they didn't get a ride. Thanks, ATB Dave Have a look here http://www.speedway.org/ click on union flag then Results and reports then Langbahn grand prix 2013 Edited August 13, 2013 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Have a look here http://www.speedway.org/ click on union flag then Results and reports then Langbahn grand prix 2013 Thanks R&R ATB Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thanks R&R ATB Dave Next time I see you at Cov you can buy me a pint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thanks again f-s-p. I tried to PM you but it said you were unable to take any more messages. One more thing.... Can you tell me the Reserve Riders (21&22) for the first three rounds. I have searched the FIM site, but it doesn't list reserves if they didn't get a ride. Thanks, ATB Dave Sorry about that, people are booking my spare room for next May like there's no tomorrow! Not really... Speedway.org is the best for continental longtrack and grasstrack, almost 100% reliable meaning they dont themself usually get much things wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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