iris123 Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 18 hours ago, chunky said: Nice to see five ex-Dons in the Top 16! Back home and chatting to some of the older members of the family, i was told a story that i had never heard before. According to one of my uncles, when Ronnie Greene left, 3 former Dons applied to take over. Cyril, Ron How and Reg Luckhurst. Apparently he say's the job went to Cyril on the basis that he lived vlosest (Mitcham). Now my uncle thought Ron How would have been the better choice. Plus seems he held a grudge against Maidment for leaving the Dons in the lurch when Mirac retired. Then only coming back to Wimbledon when Ronnie returned to the sport. Not sure n any of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 2 hours ago, iris123 said: Back home and chatting to some of the older members of the family, i was told a story that i had never heard before. According to one of my uncles, when Ronnie Greene left, 3 former Dons applied to take over. Cyril, Ron How and Reg Luckhurst. Apparently he say's the job went to Cyril on the basis that he lived vlosest (Mitcham). Now my uncle thought Ron How would have been the better choice. Plus seems he held a grudge against Maidment for leaving the Dons in the lurch when Mirac retired. Then only coming back to Wimbledon when Ronnie returned to the sport. Not sure n any of that Kinda makes sense, actually... Sid and Reg both retired at the end of 71. Maido went straight into management, with Reg taking a year off before coming out of retirement in 73. I do think Ron would have been a good choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 20 hours ago, iris123 said: Ā Plus seems he held a grudge against Maidment for leaving the Dons in the lurch when Mirac retired. Then only coming back to Wimbledon when Ronnie returned to the sport. Cyril left Wimbledon and joined Belle Vue in 1962.Ā He was in his second season with the Aces when Ronnie was injured so didn't really leave the Dons in the lurch by moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas H Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) Where's Gunnar Malmqvist? Scored 7 points to finish tenth in the 1968 world final. Gunnar is alive and well, lives at Vetlanda and celebrated hisĀ 60th wedding anniversary in February. Born 25/12/1940 and should be number 18 on the list.Ā https://www.merinfo.se/person/Vetlanda/Bo-Erik-Gunnar-Malmqvist-1940/bju2x-nhch Ā Edited May 28, 2023 by Jonas H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 29, 2023 Report Share Posted May 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Jonas H said: Where's Gunnar Malmqvist? Scored 7 points to finish tenth in the 1968 world final. Gunnar is alive and well, lives at Vetlanda and celebrated hisĀ 60th wedding anniversary in February. Born 25/12/1940 and should be number 18 on the list.Ā https://www.merinfo.se/person/Vetlanda/Bo-Erik-Gunnar-Malmqvist-1940/bju2x-nhch Ā We have been missing some info on Swedish riders, so that is great to find that out. I will update the list. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 On 5/26/2023 at 8:01 PM, chunky said: Well, in light of recent information - thanks peeps - here is the updated list... Ā 01 - Arthur Payne - 28/08/23 02 - Chum Taylor - 04/04/27 03 - Billy Bales - 06/06/29 04 - Ian Williams - 04/08/31 05Ā - Ove Fundin - 23/05/33 06Ā - Dan Forsberg - 25/03/34 07Ā - Josef Hofmeister - 17/06/34 08 - Brian Crutcher - 23/08/34 09 - Mike Broadbank - 25/09/34 10 - Barry Briggs - 30/12/34 11Ā - Aage Hansen - 13/04/35 12Ā - Gote Nordin - 02/07/3513Ā - Bob Andrews - 27/10/1935 14 - Reg Luckhurst - 11/11/193515Ā - Sverre Harrfeldt - 23/11/1937 16Ā - Leif Larsson - 16/02/193817 - Rick France - 12/07/1938 18 - Gunnar Malmqvist - 25/12/1940 19Ā - Andrzej Wyglenda 04/05/194120 - John Louis - 14/06/194121Ā - Jim Airey - 19/08/194122Ā - Bengt Jansson - 09/01/194323Ā - Anders Michanek - 30/05/194324Ā - Trevor Hedge - 30/08/194325Ā - Terry Betts - 15/09/194326Ā - Howard Cole 29/12/194327Ā - Martin Ashby - 05/02/194428Ā - Jan Simensen - 26/07/194429Ā - Zygfryd Friedek - 19/10/194430 - Jerzy Trzeszkowski - 10/01/194531Ā - Eric Boocock - 02/02/194532Ā - John Boulger - 18/06/194533Ā - Hasse Holmqvist - 18/06/194534Ā - Jim McMillan - 03/12/194535Ā - Soren Karlsson - 23/10/194636Ā - Ole Olsen - 16/11/194637Ā - Ray Wilson - 12/03/1947ļ»æ38Ā - Doug Wyer - 16/08/1947 39Ā - Grigori Khlinovsky - 11/11/4740 - Egon Muller - 26/11/194841Ā - Christoph Betzl - 13/02/194942Ā - Jiri Stancl - 18/11/194943Ā - Viktor Kuznetsov - 27/11/194944Ā - Georg Hack - 20/02/195045Ā - Marek Cieslak - 28/06/195046Ā - Alois Wiesbock - 31/07/195047Ā -Ā Tommy Johansson - 21/10/1950 48Ā - Vladimir Gordeev - 30/11/195049Ā - John Titman - 26/01/195150 - Dag Lovaas - 25/02/1951 51Ā - Jan Verner - 03/03/195152Ā - Petr Ondrasik - 08/10/195153Ā - Phil Crump - 09/02/195254Ā - Henny Kroeze - 11/03/195255Ā - ValeryĀ Gordeev - 28/08/195256Ā - Dave Jessup - 07/03/195357Ā - Ales Dryml - 10/06/195358Ā - Scott Autrey - 09/07/195359Ā - Gordon Kennett - 02/09/195360 - Robert Slabon - 15/09/195361Ā - Peter Collins - 24/03/195462Ā - Larry Ross - 15/06/1954ļ»æ63- John Davis - 10/11/195464Ā - Finn Thomsen - 16/02/195565 - Mikhail Starostin - 24/02/195566Ā - Tommy Nilsson - 10/03/195567Ā - Jan Andersson - 07/05/1955 68Ā - Kai Niemi - 15/09/195569Ā - Jerzy Rembas - 18/04/195670 - Chris Morton - 22/07/195671Ā - Steve Bastable - 16/09/195672Ā - Bruce Penhall - 10/05/195773Ā - Karl Maier - 24/08/195774Ā - Roman Jankowski - 05/10/195775Ā - Bo Petersen - 21/02/195876Ā - Les Collins - 24/05/195877Ā - Mitch Shirra - 27/09/195878Ā - Michael Lee - 11/12/195879Ā - John Cook - 18/12/195880 - Dennis Sigalos - 16/08/195981Ā - Erik Gundersen - 08/10/195982Ā - Hans Nielsen - 26/12/1959 I can t see Bjƶrn KnutsonĀ (born 27 April 1938) on that list. Is the ex-world champion no longer with us? Ā Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Split said: I can t see Bjƶrn KnutsonĀ (born 27 April 1938) on that list. Is the ex-world champion no longer with us? Ā Ā Ā Well spotted! I may have inadvertantly deleted him when I made the recent changes; I did have a problem with a couple of entries. I'll change that - thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Updated after the recent sad loss of Billy Bales, here is the COMPLETE list of surviving World Finalists. If you spot any mistakes, please don't hesitate to let me know. 01 - Arthur Payne - 28/08/23 02 - Chum Taylor - 04/04/27 03Ā - Ian Williams - 04/08/31 04Ā - Ove Fundin - 23/05/33 05Ā - Dan Forsberg - 25/03/34 06Ā - Josef Hofmeister - 17/06/34 07Ā - Brian Crutcher - 23/08/34 08Ā - Mike Broadbank - 25/09/34 09 - Barry Briggs - 30/12/34 10Ā - Aage Hansen - 13/04/35 11Ā - Gote Nordin - 02/07/3512Ā - Bob Andrews - 27/10/1935 13Ā - Reg Luckhurst - 11/11/193514Ā - Sverre Harrfeldt - 23/11/1937 15Ā - Leif Larsson - 16/02/193816Ā - Bjorn Knutson - 27/04/38 17Ā - Rick France - 12/07/1938 18Ā - Gunnar Malmqvist - 25/12/1940 19 - Andrzej Wyglenda 04/05/194120Ā - John Louis - 14/06/194121Ā - Jim Airey - 19/08/194122Ā - Bengt Jansson - 09/01/194323Ā - Anders Michanek - 30/05/194324Ā - Trevor Hedge - 30/08/194325Ā - Terry Betts - 15/09/194326Ā - Howard Cole 29/12/194327Ā - Martin Ashby - 05/02/194428Ā - Jan Simensen - 26/07/194429 - Zygfryd Friedek - 19/10/194430Ā - Jerzy Trzeszkowski - 10/01/194531Ā - Eric Boocock - 02/02/194532Ā - John Boulger - 18/06/194533 - Hasse Holmqvist - 18/06/194534Ā - Jim McMillan - 03/12/194535Ā - Soren Karlsson - 23/10/194636Ā - Ole Olsen - 16/11/194637Ā - Ray Wilson - 12/03/1947ļ»æ38Ā - Doug Wyer - 16/08/1947 39 - Grigori Khlinovsky - 11/11/4740 - Egon Muller - 26/11/194841Ā - Christoph Betzl - 13/02/194942- Jiri Stancl - 18/11/194943Ā - Viktor Kuznetsov - 27/11/194944Ā - Georg Hack - 20/02/195045Ā - Marek Cieslak - 28/06/195046Ā - Alois Wiesbock - 31/07/195047Ā -Ā Tommy Johansson - 21/10/1950 48Ā - Vladimir Gordeev - 30/11/195049 - John Titman - 26/01/195150Ā - Dag Lovaas - 25/02/1951 51Ā - Jan Verner - 03/03/195152Ā - Petr Ondrasik - 08/10/195153Ā - Phil Crump - 09/02/195254Ā - Henny Kroeze - 11/03/195255Ā - ValeryĀ Gordeev - 28/08/195256Ā - Dave Jessup - 07/03/195357Ā - Ales Dryml - 10/06/195358Ā - Scott Autrey - 09/07/195359 - Gordon Kennett - 02/09/195360Ā - Robert Slabon - 15/09/195361Ā - Peter Collins - 24/03/195462Ā - Larry Ross - 15/06/1954ļ»æ63 - John Davis - 10/11/195464Ā - Finn Thomsen - 16/02/195565Ā - Mikhail Starostin - 24/02/195566Ā - Tommy Nilsson - 10/03/195567Ā - Jan Andersson - 07/05/1955 68Ā - Kai Niemi - 15/09/195569 - Jerzy Rembas - 18/04/195670Ā - Chris Morton - 22/07/195671Ā - Steve Bastable - 16/09/195672Ā - Bruce Penhall - 10/05/195773Ā - Karl Maier - 24/08/195774Ā - Roman Jankowski - 05/10/195775Ā - Bo Petersen - 21/02/195876Ā - Les Collins - 24/05/195877Ā - Mitch Shirra - 27/09/195878Ā - Michael Lee - 11/12/195879 - John Cook - 18/12/1958 80 - Richard Knight - 26/05/195981Ā - Dennis Sigalos - 16/08/195982Ā - Erik Gundersen - 08/10/195983Ā - Hans Nielsen - 26/12/1959 84 - Olli Tyrvainen - 11/01/1960 85 - Phil Collins - 02/06/1960 86 - Sam Ermolenko - 23/11/1960 87 - Rick Miller - 12/01/1961 88 - Jeremy Doncaster - 16/06/1961 89 - Tommy Knudsen - 09/11/1961 90 - Zoltan Adorjan - 15/11/1961 91 - Shawn Moran - 19/11/1961 92 - Peter Ravn - 16/03/1962 93 - Zenon Kasprzak - 10/05/1962 94 - John Jorgensen - 18/07/1962 95 - Antal Kocso - 22/12/1962 96 - Sandor Tihanyi - 28/04/1963 97 - Lance King - 13/08/1963 98 - Armando Castagna - 22/09/1963 99 - Kelvin Tatum - 08/02/1964 100 - Marvyn Cox - 11/07/1964 101 - Zdenek Tesar - 30/07/1964 102 - Mikael Blixt - 08/08/1964 103 - Paul Thorp - 09/09/1964 104 - Tony Olsson - 13/03/1965 105 - Gerd Riss - 17/03/1965 106 - Conny Ivarsson - 15/04/1965 107 - Simon Cross - 31/05/1965 108 - Bohumil Brhel - 10/06/1965 109 - Slawomir Drabik - 06/02/1966 110 - Per Jonsson - 21/03/1966 111 - Andy Smith - 25/05/1966 112 - Jan Staechmann - 05/06/1966 113 - Ronnie Correy - 08/11/1966 114 - Jimmy Nilsen - 16/11/1966 115 - Brian Karger - 09/02/1967 116 - Jan O. Pedersen - 27/07/1967 117 - Craig Boyce - 02/08/1967 118 - Troy Butler - 22/09/1967 119 - Piotr Swist - 20/06/1968 120 - Todd Wiltshire - 26/09/1968 121 - Gary Havelock - 04/11/1968 122 - Stefan Danno - 10/02/1969 123 - Martin Dugard - 18/05/1969 124 - Gert Handberg - 30/05/1969 125 - Chris Louis - 09/07/1969 126 - Billy Hamill - 23/05/1970 127 - Greg Hancock - 03/06/1970 128 - Henrik Gustafsson - 14/08/1970 129 - Tony Rickardsson - 17/08/1970 130 - Mark Loram - 12/01/1971 131 - Tomasz Gollob - 11/04/1971 132 - Leigh Adams - 28/04/1971 133 - Josh Larsen - 12/05/1972 134 - Joe Screen - 27/11/1972 135 - Jason Crump - 06/08/1975 Edited July 12, 2023 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 On 5/26/2023 at 9:01 PM, chunky said: Well, in light of recent information - thanks peeps - here is the updated list... 01 - Arthur Payne - 28/08/23 02 - Chum Taylor - 04/04/27 03Ā - Ian Williams - 04/08/31 04Ā - Ove Fundin - 23/05/33 05Ā - Dan Forsberg - 25/03/34 06Ā - Josef Hofmeister - 17/06/34 07Ā - Brian Crutcher - 23/08/34 08Ā - Mike Broadbank - 25/09/34 09 - Barry Briggs - 30/12/34 10Ā - Aage Hansen - 13/04/35 11Ā - Gote Nordin - 02/07/3512Ā - Bob Andrews - 27/10/1935 13Ā - Reg Luckhurst - 11/11/193514Ā - Sverre Harrfeldt - 23/11/1937 15Ā - Leif Larsson - 16/02/193816Ā - Bjorn Knutson - 27/04/38 ... Viktor Trofimov - 22/03/1938 ... Volodymyr Rozhanchuk - 11/03/1952 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Igor said: Viktor Trofimov - 22/03/1938 ... Volodymyr Rozhanchuk - 11/03/1952 Thanks for your input, but this list is for living riders only; Viktor Trofimov passed away in 2013. Also, the list includes riders who actually rode in a World Final; non-riding reserves do not count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas H Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 Arthur Payne, bornĀ 28/08/23, becomes 100 years today. The only remaining rider who is older than the sport itself! First acknowledged speedway meeting was held on December 15, 1923.Ā 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted August 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 The only survivor of theĀ 1950 World Final and he wasn't even the youngest rider in the meeting. Can somebody find out what he's drinking so I can order a case for myself!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Jonas H said: Arthur Payne, bornĀ 28/08/23, becomes 100 years today. The only remaining rider who is older than the sport itself! First acknowledged speedway meeting was held on December 15, 1923.Ā Congratulations to Arthur. Well done that man!Ā Though I don't agree he is older than the sport, as I also don't agree that the "First acknowledged speedway meeting was held on December 15, 1923." But that's another story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split Posted August 28, 2023 Report Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just picked upĀ that the Swedish 1-2-3 from the 1961 world finalĀ are all on the list. Three great ridersĀ - long may it stay that way!Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas H Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 On 8/28/2023 at 5:03 PM, norbold said: Congratulations to Arthur. Well done that man!Ā Though I don't agree he is older than the sport, as I also don't agree that the "First acknowledged speedway meeting was held on December 15, 1923." But that's another story! Agree with you, but at least older than the officially acknowledged version of speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 On 8/28/2023 at 11:25 AM, Split said: Just picked upĀ that the Swedish 1-2-3 from the 1961 world finalĀ are all on the list. Three great ridersĀ - long may it stay that way!Ā Just elaborating on this... So too are the Top 3 from 1963. This is scary, but these two years are the ONLY years with a surviving Top 3 - PRIOR TO 1975! 1975 still seems so recent to me, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted September 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 That is indeed very scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 On 9/11/2023 at 1:22 PM, chunky said: Just elaborating on this... So too are the Top 3 from 1963. This is scary, but these two years are the ONLY years with a surviving Top 3 - PRIOR TO 1975! 1975 still seems so recent to me, but... Mind you, Ivan Mauger accounts for most of that on his own! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, norbold said: Mind you, Ivan Mauger accounts for most of that on his own! I know, but still... 1975 still seems so bloody recent to me. It's 48 years, I know, but go back 48 years the other way, and speedway didn't even exist in Britain! EDIT: You want to know what REALLY scared me? The next most recent after 1975 with all three medallists surviving is 1981... Edited September 24, 2023 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted September 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 This really depresses me - I might as well go hang myself right now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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