jrs Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 7 hours ago, norbold said: The 1963 final was the first one I went to. I was sitting with my friend next to a group of Coventry supporters who we chatted to during the meeting. Perhaps we met in another life, jrs! You never know Norman, I can honestly say at the moment I don't remember, the great thing about Wembley was that everybody seemed to get on with everybody else, it was like a great annual social event. I was a fan of Ove and enjoyed my trips to Norwich, and I nearly peeed myself as a second-halfer at Long Eaton one night when Ove's bike packed up and he borrowed my bike and went and won the race in his usual time and gave me a display of how my bike should be ridden. Needless to say it was never ridden again like that. Sadly some of my memories of fifties and sixties got affected by a fractured skull in '66. Loads of empty patches in my memory. I know there was a lad near us at Wembley who reckoned he was gonna win a fortune on a TV programme. I wonder if he ever did. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: ...I have a feeling that Jim also went into partnership with ex-Bee Tony Lomas in the antique business? I heard that Jim did antiques, but I don't know about Tony. I used to know Tony well, but then work took over my life and travels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, jrs said: I heard that Jim did antiques, but I don't know about Tony. I used to know Tony well, but then work took over my life and travels. ...Tony's now based in Reeth apparently. Somewhere I used to visit regularly hoping to bump into him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 hours ago, steve roberts said: ...I have a feeling that Jim also went into partnership with ex-Bee Tony Lomas in the antique business? Wasn’t Tony a road tester for Triumph at one stage, along with Road racer Percy Tait ? I might be wrong but I have a feeling they were both involved with developing the Triumph 3 cylinder 750 cc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 43 minutes ago, E I Addio said: Wasn’t Tony a road tester for Triumph at one stage, along with Road racer Percy Tait ? I might be wrong but I have a feeling they were both involved with developing the Triumph 3 cylinder 750 cc. You are perfectly 100% correct. Tony also used to race a 500 Triumph twin on grass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas H Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 Two fo the Swedish riders on the list passed away several years ago. Per Tage Svensson died on May 26, 2008 and Leif Enecrona as early as April 11, 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jonas H said: Two fo the Swedish riders on the list passed away several years ago. Per Tage Svensson died on May 26, 2008 and Leif Enecrona as early as April 11, 2003. Thanks for that, Jonas. Sad to hear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas H Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 Peo Söderman is gone as well. He died already in July 1992, aged just 59. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, Jonas H said: Peo Söderman is gone as well. He died already in July 1992, aged just 59. Are you sure Jonas ? Hopefully wikipedia is correct and he is still alive and well aged 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas H Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, jrs said: Are you sure Jonas ? Hopefully wikipedia is correct and he is still alive and well aged 90. Peo is definitely dead. Well before Wikipedia even existed. Was a referee for many years, but died suddenly in July, 1992, some 3 months before his 60th birthday. Edited May 25, 2023 by Jonas H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted May 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 With Peo and P.T. Svensson gone , most of the final 16 move up 2 places - it seems Doug Davies and Sverre Harrfeldt are now on the oldest 16 list -while we also have 2 new reserves at 17 and 18. Thanks for the update Jonas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 37 minutes ago, Jonas H said: Peo is definitely dead. Well before Wikipedia even existed. Was a referee for many years, but died suddenly in July, 1992, some 3 months before his 60th birthday. Hopefully Frigbo will see these posts as he is the fountain of knowledge on this thread. AS well as Per Olof , commonly called Peo, wasn't there another Soderman of the same era also involved in speedway ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas H Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, jrs said: Hopefully Frigbo will see these posts as he is the fountain of knowledge on this thread. AS well as Per Olof , commonly called Peo, wasn't there another Soderman of the same era also involved in speedway ? There was no other Söderman. You might have thought about Rune Sörmander? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted May 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 Rune has also passed away-great rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 7 hours ago, BOBBATH said: With Peo and P.T. Svensson gone , most of the final 16 move up 2 places - it seems Doug Davies and Sverre Harrfeldt are now on the oldest 16 list -while we also have 2 new reserves at 17 and 18. Thanks for the update Jonas. I don't think that Doug Davies is still alive. As far as I recall it, he died in the early 2000s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL65 Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Bavarian said: I don't think that Doug Davies is still alive. As far as I recall it, he died in the early 2000s. That is correct, Doug died 8th June 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Well, in light of recent information - thanks peeps - here is the updated list... 01 - Arthur Payne - 28/08/23 02 - Chum Taylor - 04/04/27 03 - Ian Williams - 04/08/31 04 - Ove Fundin - 23/05/33 05 - Dan Forsberg - 25/03/34 06 - Josef Hofmeister - 17/06/34 07 - Brian Crutcher - 23/08/34 08 - Mike Broadbank - 25/09/34 09 - Barry Briggs - 30/12/34 10 - Aage Hansen - 13/04/35 11 - Gote Nordin - 02/07/3512 - Bob Andrews - 27/10/1935 13 - Reg Luckhurst - 11/11/193514 - Sverre Harrfeldt - 23/11/1937 15 - Leif Larsson - 16/02/193816 - Bjorn Knutson - 27/04/38 17 - Rick France - 12/07/1938 18 - Gunnar Malmqvist - 25/12/1940 19 - Andrzej Wyglenda 04/05/194120 - John Louis - 14/06/194121 - Jim Airey - 19/08/194122 - Bengt Jansson - 09/01/194323 - Anders Michanek - 30/05/194324 - Trevor Hedge - 30/08/194325 - Terry Betts - 15/09/194326 - Howard Cole 29/12/194327 - Martin Ashby - 05/02/194428 - Jan Simensen - 26/07/194429 - Zygfryd Friedek - 19/10/194430 - Jerzy Trzeszkowski - 10/01/194531 - Eric Boocock - 02/02/194532 - John Boulger - 18/06/194533 - Hasse Holmqvist - 18/06/194534 - Jim McMillan - 03/12/194535 - Soren Karlsson - 23/10/194636 - Ole Olsen - 16/11/194637 - Ray Wilson - 12/03/194738 - Doug Wyer - 16/08/1947 39 - Grigori Khlinovsky - 11/11/4740 - Egon Muller - 26/11/194841 - Christoph Betzl - 13/02/194942- Jiri Stancl - 18/11/194943 - Viktor Kuznetsov - 27/11/194944 - Georg Hack - 20/02/195045 - Marek Cieslak - 28/06/195046 - Alois Wiesbock - 31/07/195047 - Tommy Johansson - 21/10/1950 48 - Vladimir Gordeev - 30/11/195049 - John Titman - 26/01/195150 - Dag Lovaas - 25/02/1951 51 - Jan Verner - 03/03/195152 - Petr Ondrasik - 08/10/195153 - Phil Crump - 09/02/195254 - Henny Kroeze - 11/03/195255 - Valery Gordeev - 28/08/195256 - Dave Jessup - 07/03/195357 - Ales Dryml - 10/06/195358 - Scott Autrey - 09/07/195359 - Gordon Kennett - 02/09/195360 - Robert Slabon - 15/09/195361 - Peter Collins - 24/03/195462 - Larry Ross - 15/06/195463 - John Davis - 10/11/195464 - Finn Thomsen - 16/02/195565 - Mikhail Starostin - 24/02/195566 - Tommy Nilsson - 10/03/195567 - Jan Andersson - 07/05/1955 68 - Kai Niemi - 15/09/195569 - Jerzy Rembas - 18/04/195670 - Chris Morton - 22/07/195671 - Steve Bastable - 16/09/195672 - Bruce Penhall - 10/05/195773 - Karl Maier - 24/08/195774 - Roman Jankowski - 05/10/195775 - Bo Petersen - 21/02/195876 - Les Collins - 24/05/195877 - Mitch Shirra - 27/09/195878 - Michael Lee - 11/12/195879 - John Cook - 18/12/195880 - Dennis Sigalos - 16/08/195981 - Erik Gundersen - 08/10/195982 - Hans Nielsen - 26/12/1959 Edited July 12, 2023 by chunky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted May 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 Thanks again Chunky-great update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, BOBBATH said: Thanks again Chunky-great update Nice to see five ex-Dons in the Top 16! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 Just for bit of fun; Jason Crump is the YOUNGEST surviving world finalist, nearly three years younger than the next - Joe Screen. Yes, I now have the complete list of surviving world finalists... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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