Ipswich Vs Newcastle Thursday 6th June 7.30pm

[Taylorj]

Still think the Monarchs are stronger

No way !! Newcastle have a very solid 1-7, persevere with Steve W for a little longer, you are winning home and away so why change that just yet , he will come good am sure

[Baldyman]

Some of the comments in his post seem to prove that he doesn't go to Ipswich!

Which comments?

[Ipswich Jules]

What a depressing performance that was from all Witches riders apart from Rohan. Sluggish out of the gate, slow bikes, pootling around the white line and taking the wrong lines mostly, getting passed over and over again etc etc.

 

I said Barker needed to start riding like the no1 9.69av rider we signed but to no avail, 5 races and 5 missed gates is simply not good enough. Riding for Birmingham Wednesday he scored 12 points so perhaps he is better riding in the Elite League only. The terrible lines he take at foxhall and never never changes, shows he only knows one line and thats just inside the fence sadly.

 

Hawkins well Hawkins is Hawkins, 4 - 5 points a meeting and thats that and terribly slow getting passed and also getting some extra points given to him.

 

Tungate by far the best Witches rider and the only one who could gate, a very good performance from him.

 

Risager, seems the bubble has burst and his purple patch is over which he has from time to time, so back to the white line safety line.

 

Lanham, well has a rider let the Witches down more than him this season, I doubt it. Absolutely pathetic and even worse now at no5 than at no1. I for one hope he is replaced but very much doubt he will be as he is in the cl click.

 

Ellis, well as usual one good race in the reserves race then nothing and Im starting to wonder if he is worth his team place after all he is a Lakeside asset. He came to Ipswich with a reputation for overtaking but we have seen nothing of that and seems to have gone backwards with no improvement at all.

 

Heeps, well he has rode very well this season and I suppose he was due an off meeting and this was certainly it. Never gating and very slow and at times looking awkward, we hope for better next time.

 

Slightly larger gate witnessing this very poor performance from the Witches, I would think the extra's are not likely to return. With the away meetings coming up at the weekend, a performance like this and they will be walloped and get no points at all.

 

Barker needs to start riding like the 9.69 rider we signed? How many did he score last night? 9, not really far away from his average.

You say that maybe he prefers riding in the EL, well I guess you've not been following his EL scoring too much this season? His recent 12? On Wednesday he scored 9 from 5 rides on Wednesday (same as he got for us last night) at home to a poor BV side - Do you even bother with facts ever?

You moan as he rides the outside line - which he always has - yet you moan when riders stay on the inside? Just where should they ride to make you happy? Mid-track so they can be undertaken whilst someone else goes around the outside? Good thinking!

Oh and he LOVES riding here at Ipswich, if you had taken the time to ask him you'd of known this, at the interval he's the only rider who interacts with the fans, talks to them, signs photos etc - many will say what they like about him but he's gone down well with the fans who visit the pit area.

 

Same for Hawkins - you're moaning that he scores 4-5 a meeting, once again, what is his average? These averages aren't just dreamed up by somebody, they reflect how well they score. So long as riders meet their average you can't really complain, unless it's you of course!

With him remaining in the team for the season I'd expect him to invest more in his equipment and hopefully try and add to his average. We know he's never going to set the world alight but he is a better rider as we have seen in the past.

 

Tungate, yes he was the best rider of the night for us, worrying that when he's behind he seems unable to do an awful lot about it. I know the dry weather we've had made for a difficult track but hopefully he can prove me wrong on a more "normal" track given weather conditions.

 

Risager's bubble has burst? One meeting on a difficult track where he made about his average? Are you sure you've not got your anti-Louis glasses on again?

 

Lanham was disappointing last night, and yes, has been on a few occasions this season, scored nearly 2pt's below his average last night which at home isn't good enough. Hopefully once his engine issues are sorted he'll be better. Oh and it's "clique" by the way...

 

Wait, you're now saying that Ellis may not be good enough for the PL? First you said it about him at reserve in the EL now he's not good enough for the PL? I think you've been out in the sun too long! Look at his scores in the NL - he's wiping the floor with pretty much everybody at that level so where else should he ride? Should he stay in the NL forever? No! Of course he's good enough for the PL as he's proven he's too good for the NL.

You say he has a reputation for overtaking and you've not seen it? Clearly you've not been to many Witches home meetings this season then? As we suspected.

As for him being a Lakeside asset - what difference does that make? We all know riders will ride for whoever they like regardless of who "owns" them. Joe Jacobs is an Ipswich asset riding for Glasgow, would you of preferred him instead of Adam?

 

Heeps had an off night, it happens. It just that it happened for him at the same time as Adam, Leigh and to an extent Morten.

 

 

We were beaten by a better side, the favorites for the PL title in many peoples eyes - and only beaten on a last heat decider. As the saying goes, "you can't win them all", I don't expect us to get much away at Newcastle just like we didn't last year but I expect to get something at Berwick as we've previously gone well there.

[Fromafar]

What a depressing performance that was from all Witches riders apart from Rohan. Sluggish out of the gate, slow bikes, pootling around the white line and taking the wrong lines mostly, getting passed over and over again etc etc.

 

I said Barker needed to start riding like the no1 9.69av rider we signed but to no avail, 5 races and 5 missed gates is simply not good enough. Riding for Birmingham Wednesday he scored 12 points so perhaps he is better riding in the Elite League only. The terrible lines he take at foxhall and never never changes, shows he only knows one line and thats just inside the fence sadly.

 

Hawkins well Hawkins is Hawkins, 4 - 5 points a meeting and thats that and terribly slow getting passed and also getting some extra points given to him.

 

Tungate by far the best Witches rider and the only one who could gate, a very good performance from him.

 

Risager, seems the bubble has burst and his purple patch is over which he has from time to time, so back to the white line safety line.

 

Lanham, well has a rider let the Witches down more than him this season, I doubt it. Absolutely pathetic and even worse now at no5 than at no1. I for one hope he is replaced but very much doubt he will be as he is in the cl click.

 

Ellis, well as usual one good race in the reserves race then nothing and Im starting to wonder if he is worth his team place after all he is a Lakeside asset. He came to Ipswich with a reputation for overtaking but we have seen nothing of that and seems to have gone backwards with no improvement at all.

 

Heeps, well he has rode very well this season and I suppose he was due an off meeting and this was certainly it. Never gating and very slow and at times looking awkward, we hope for better next time.

 

Slightly larger gate witnessing this very poor performance from the Witches, I would think the extra's are not likely to return. With the away meetings coming up at the weekend, a performance like this and they will be walloped and get no points at all.

When you come up against a good Team your riders can always look slow ,fact is Newcastle are a very strong Team and will make a lot of sides look ordinary the form they are in.

[Willowman]

Barker needs to start riding like the 9.69 rider we signed? How many did he score last night? 9, not really far away from his average.

You say that maybe he prefers riding in the EL, well I guess you've not been following his EL scoring too much this season? His recent 12? On Wednesday he scored 9 from 5 rides on Wednesday (same as he got for us last night) at home to a poor BV side - Do you even bother with facts ever?

You moan as he rides the outside line - which he always has - yet you moan when riders stay on the inside? Just where should they ride to make you happy? Mid-track so they can be undertaken whilst someone else goes around the outside? Good thinking!

Oh and he LOVES riding here at Ipswich, if you had taken the time to ask him you'd of known this, at the interval he's the only rider who interacts with the fans, talks to them, signs photos etc - many will say what they like about him but he's gone down well with the fans who visit the pit area.

 

Same for Hawkins - you're moaning that he scores 4-5 a meeting, once again, what is his average? These averages aren't just dreamed up by somebody, they reflect how well they score. So long as riders meet their average you can't really complain, unless it's you of course!

With him remaining in the team for the season I'd expect him to invest more in his equipment and hopefully try and add to his average. We know he's never going to set the world alight but he is a better rider as we have seen in the past.

 

Tungate, yes he was the best rider of the night for us, worrying that when he's behind he seems unable to do an awful lot about it. I know the dry weather we've had made for a difficult track but hopefully he can prove me wrong on a more "normal" track given weather conditions.

 

Risager's bubble has burst? One meeting on a difficult track where he made about his average? Are you sure you've not got your anti-Louis glasses on again?

 

Lanham was disappointing last night, and yes, has been on a few occasions this season, scored nearly 2pt's below his average last night which at home isn't good enough. Hopefully once his engine issues are sorted he'll be better. Oh and it's "clique" by the way...

 

Wait, you're now saying that Ellis may not be good enough for the PL? First you said it about him at reserve in the EL now he's not good enough for the PL? I think you've been out in the sun too long! Look at his scores in the NL - he's wiping the floor with pretty much everybody at that level so where else should he ride? Should he stay in the NL forever? No! Of course he's good enough for the PL as he's proven he's too good for the NL.

You say he has a reputation for overtaking and you've not seen it? Clearly you've not been to many Witches home meetings this season then? As we suspected.

As for him being a Lakeside asset - what difference does that make? We all know riders will ride for whoever they like regardless of who "owns" them. Joe Jacobs is an Ipswich asset riding for Glasgow, would you of preferred him instead of Adam?

 

Heeps had an off night, it happens. It just that it happened for him at the same time as Adam, Leigh and to an extent Morten.

 

 

We were beaten by a better side, the favorites for the PL title in many peoples eyes - and only beaten on a last heat decider. As the saying goes, "you can't win them all", I don't expect us to get much away at Newcastle just like we didn't last year but I expect to get something at Berwick as we've previously gone well there.

To be fair, you would expect a home rider to ride above his average at home to make up for lower scores away!

[Jackal]

To be fair, you would expect a home rider to ride above his average at home to make up for lower scores away!

 

Correct but as we know a certain person will twist the facts to suit his own purpose!!!

 

Jules, Jules, Jules !!! There you go again criticise, criticise, criticise, we are never going to be become best mates like this are we??? Tut! tut! tut!

[CardinalSin]

If you're talking about Figures, then sorry Jules but Barker has been nothing but a disappointment.

 

However, he's still the man I look forward to seeing at Foxhall every week.

 

The lad is box office, a true racer who you can see winding on the throttle and giving 100% in each and every race.

 

Nobody put more effort in last night than Barker and he was the most exciting rider on show.

[Ipswich Jules]

 

 

Correct but as we know a certain person will twist the facts to suit his own purpose!!!

 

Jules, Jules, Jules !!! There you go again criticise, criticise, criticise, we are never going to be become best mates like this are we??? Tut! tut! tut!

 

Because it's not correct in all cases - riders like Ben Barker and Rohan Tungate can score as much away as they can at home - sometimes more, riders like Morten Risager and Richie Hawkins are the opposite and generally score more at home than they do away.

That's a fact and one that can be backed up if you look at riders scores home and away, but I don't expect you to do any research - after all you thought Ben scored 12 at Birmingham on Wednesday night which a simple look on updates or Birmingham's website would of proven otherwise!

 

If you're talking about Figures, then sorry Jules but Barker has been nothing but a disappointment.

 

However, he's still the man I look forward to seeing at Foxhall every week.

 

The lad is box office, a true racer who you can see winding on the throttle and giving 100% in each and every race.

 

Nobody put more effort in last night than Barker and he was the most exciting rider on show.

 

I wouldn't disagree with that CS, i thought - like most - that Ben would be banging home double figures every week at home for fun, so in that respect he has been a disappointment - but is there a more exciting rider round Foxhall at the moment? I'd say no.

 

sadly meetings aren't won or lost on excitement though, it's the points that earn the prizes.

[Super Blue]

Bens been a disappointment to me this season as well , an outright no1 with his average who hasn't won heat 1 yet to me is a serious let down !

 

He is still exciting to watch though .

[Bash]

Which comments?

He says that Barker takes a terrible line all the time, yes in heat 1 he does but if he didn't take that line latter on he wouldn't have won heat 13. Everybody knows the dirt moves wider the longer the meeting goes on.

Morten had one disappointing ride last night, but that was only after Robson left him high and dry in the first corner and he had to shut off or pile into the fence. To say his bubble has burst when he still had a win and paid win and got his average from his remaining three rides.

Both reserves had an off night but Adam had been winning heat 14 as well recently, not just in heat 2 as Aljack says. It seems that Adam is Aljacks new pet hate because he has had a run in with his dad Jonny The Spud on here. It didn't take long did it.

[Baldyman]

Didn't morten have problems with bike before match start? Maybe riding his number2 machine with a tired old engine. He did stick to the curb last night though, something he hasn't been so much of lately. With Barker I'm really surprised he has never tried the cut back in heat 1, fantastic to watch, but he doesn't have many strings to his bow. He never seems to do much till heat 13 most weeks, although his efforts are clearly to be seen. As for Adam, another 100 percent effort but his bikes did look slow last night, and we're not so revvy last night, maybe needs to try an extra tooth on the back. Also I'm sure if he enters the corner a metre or 2 later especially bend 3, he would find it much easier. I don't know if he gets much advice but you never see Louis around the track actually having a look at how they are riding. You can't see everything from the pits

Edited June 7, 2013 by Baldyman

[Shadders]

Good win for Newcastle. Favourites for the league with Edinburgh surely?

[Ipswich Jules]

Didn't morten have problems with bike before match start? Maybe riding his number2 machine with a tired old engine. He did stick to the curb last night though, something he hasn't been so much of lately. With Barker I'm really surprised he has never tried the cut back in heat 1, fantastic to watch, but he doesn't have many strings to his bow. He never seems to do much till heat 13 most weeks, although his efforts are clearly to be seen. As for Adam, another 100 percent effort but his bikes did look slow last night, and we're not so revvy last night, maybe needs to try an extra tooth on the back. Also I'm sure if he enters the corner a metre or 2 later especially bend 3, he would find it much easier. I don't know if he gets much advice but you never see Louis around the track actually having a look at how they are riding. You can't see everything from the pits

 

Morten's bike didn't get very far on the parade lap - didn't make it past the home straight stand.

Whether that bike was fixed or No.2 was used I couldn't say but he didn't get to have a couple of practice laps on a tricky surface like everybody else.

 

Chris is often out on the centre green during the meeting, infact I'd say he spends more time there than in the pits.

[dantodan]

Well, that was certainly worth the journey down!!

 

We could have had all 4 points, had the track been better earlier on, as the falls happened when we either had a 5-1 or a 3-3, which changed them to a 3-3 and a 2-4. That'll be the 6 points we were behind early on in the meeting.

 

All Ippo fans were complimentary, which is nice.

 

On the Stevie W discussion. What I would say is that you don't become a poor rider overnight. We know what he's capable of. Give him time and he'll get back to what he was doing before his injury last year. And, anyway, who are you going to replace him with? As far as I can see there is no-one out there. But I wouldn't be looking anyway. Perservere with him and he WILL come good.

yes I would stick with Steve who will come good