hagonshocker Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Been told there will be an announcement released at 6am.....need to sort out what could be a total disaster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) the shale has not been changed it is the same as last year...literally. the track is being relaid overnight. the shale has not been changed it is the same as last year...literally. the track is being relaid overnight. Then why does it have to be re-laid? Its not as though they've had 2 days to do it.. and why is new shale being drafted in? Rubbish. Heads want banging together.. Edited May 31, 2013 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJ Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 the shale has not been changed it is the same as last year...literally. the track is being relaid overnight. the shale has not been changed it is the same as last year...literally. the track is being relaid overnight. Fingers firmly crossed that this resolves it. Given the current state of British speedway we can I'll afford for our flagship meeting to be shambolic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 FFS. Hope they get it fixed, a lot of punters have spent a lot of money to attend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Heard a story of changing start time?...how can they when people will risk missing the already limited trains back in the evening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Fingers firmly crossed that this resolves it. Given the current state of British speedway we can I'll afford for our flagship meeting to be shambolic. Whose flagship meeting? It may be held in Britain, but remind me what British Speedway gets out of it? It's not as if a Brit winning it makes much difference to the outside world, so it won't have much effect either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 If there is going to be an announcement at 6.00 tomorrow morning the signs do not look good at al, l for the GP to go ahead tomorrow at 17.00. If there is nothing to worry about when why make a statement about it.. That could leave the alternative of delaying the start time until later or postpone it until Sunday or the worse possible answer cancel it altogether. Let's hope the Gp still takes place tomorrow otherwise the GP's will be finished in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) The organisers will do everything in their power to get it on. I read that the shale originally bought in was damp therefore didnt settle well. The new shale should sort that so im cautiously hopeful it will go ahead. Edited May 31, 2013 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 @buzzbar28: @garypatchett new shale from Breedon on the way but won't be there until after 1am then trying to do 3 days work in 7hrs decision at 6am. @ALindbck: Practice cancelled, not even sure there will be race tomorrow! :/ #BritishSGP How has it gone so wrong? Track has been one of the best in the gp. Not looking very promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Already decided to give it a miss this year but hope to God its on for everyone that has forked out a lot of expense and have also looked forward to it...would be a disgrace if it isnt on at this late stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJ Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Whose flagship meeting? It may be held in Britain, but remind me what British Speedway gets out of it? It's not as if a Brit winning it makes much difference to the outside world, so it won't have much effect either way. OK, perhaps flagship may have been the wrong word. What I meant is that British speedway is perhaps at its lowest ever point and this is a meeting where the bulk of our regular supporters are likely to be attending. Supporters who are already frustrated by many issues. A shambolic GP is hardly likely to improve this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backless Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 And the irony of it is, that this shambles is totally outside of the control of the BSPA. God knows, they screw up enough things on their own, I don't remember them appealing for help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Mdmc82, perhaps they thought that they could make the profit a little bigger by cutting a day or two or so from track construction time. Normally there would enough time for track to settle but if they opted for shorter construction the track would not have the necessary settlingtime, which will make track loose and soft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 The reports I have been hearing this evening seem to indicate the shale is stored in Wales all year but the bad cold and wet winter has knackered it making it like quick sand and sloppy. Hopefully they can sort it out overnight and get a track relaid in time as seems many reports that they are having to start again with track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Hope to god its on... Been able to cancel going to start isle of wight festival work early so i can go tomorrow!!! Be pissed off if its cancelled! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 LET'S just clear up some mis-information ... time taken to lay the track was same as in previous years, material was same as in 2012 and had been kept in an environmentally controlled storage facility which should (and I repeat should) have ensured that it retained no more than a seven per cent moisture content. That moisture content is supposedly constantly monitored and BSI provided with regular updates. When the material was laid the moisture content was higher and how that happened (possibly in transportation when the Cardiff weather was extremely wet earlier in the week) will obviously be the subject of a later investigation. The riders wanted the chance to test the track, hence a limited practice schedule to determine what needed to be done. They have a huge amount of equipment on hand at the stadium and they will be working through the night to completely relay the track. On Friday the roof of the stadium was opened but only certain areas of the track were exposed to the sun and they were by and large okay. Ole Olsen, who is in charge of preparing the track before handing it over to the Race Director (which hasn't happened yet) is confident that they have enough time to rectify the situation and to have a track up to recent Cardiff standards. Conditions inside the stadium, the state of the materials and the equipment on hand is very different to Gelsenkirchen but obviously as far as BSI are concerned this is their worst nightmare. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC! Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Ole Olsen, who is in charge of preparing the track before handing it over to the Race Director (which hasn't happened yet) is confident that they have enough time to rectify the situation and to have a track up to recent Cardiff standards. Thanks for the update Philip. Difficult to see the above being the case in reality - if Olsen can be 'confident' to have a track prepared in this short a time to meet previous standards why would they not do it in that time frame every year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 THEY do once the fences are installed and the material (over 40 truck loads) has arrived and is on the track. The racing surface was ready on Wednesday but yesterday (Thurs) some areas started to soften as moisture came up to the top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Brown Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 This photo taken at 11.50 tonight shows how much work is neededhttps://twitter.com/nickipedersenDK/status/340601624894529536/photo/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Thanks for the update Philip. Difficult to see the above being the case in reality - if Olsen can be 'confident' to have a track prepared in this short a time to meet previous standards why would they not do it in that time frame every year? There is a difference between laying the meat of the track itself, and creating the whole track area (fencing etc), which having seen it at close quarters in the past, can often drag things out. They obviously wont be laying the entire track area, so they obviously fancy their chances of pulling it off. Cheers Mr Rising for the sensible update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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