lionking Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 This could be a real close match. Leicester are forced to use national league guest for the otherwise comitted Magnus Karlsson. They bring in James Sargent who also guested for Leicester a few weeks ago at Berwick & at home vs Ipswich. Sheffield look like they will be without Simon Stead so will be entitled to a guest (which you just know will be Craig Cook) With also Richard ( i'd rather be at a wedding) Hall struggling to be fit they might be forced run with R/R which means anyone can take a ride in his place. Teams SHEFFIELD 1. Guest TBC 2.Facundo Albin 3.Joe Haines 4.Richard Hall or R/R 5. Ricky Wells 6. Damien Koppe 7. Jake Knight LEICESTER 1. Kauko Nieminen 2. James Sargent (guest) 3. Lasse Bjerre 4. Jan Graversen 5. Kevin Doolan 6. Alex Edberg 7. Robert Branford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) Simon doesn't think he'll be able to ride in the pairs on Friday so Thursday will be a definate no! However Hally seems to think he'll be taking Steadys place on Friday, so he'll want to ride on Thursday. Hope he's more ready than he was against Rye House! If not don't know how we'll go on at Somerset, might as well withdraw and let a team with a decent pairing take our place. As for the Leicester meeting think it will be close, Branford and Sergeant have both done plenty of laps round Owlerton so will be a good challenge to our bottom end (all 4 of 'em). Bjerre is usually good round here too and although Doolan doesn't particularly like it here, if he shows the same commitment he did at Poole last night he should do reasonably well. But if we suddenly get going who knows what might happen! Edited May 28, 2013 by Steve55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rskinner Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Why do Leicester need to use a NL guest in for Karlsson, surely he has about a 7 point average?? Sorry don,t know the rules LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 If Roynon is fit and racing on Sunday. Why don't we use him on Thursday, it's only two days difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Why do Leicester need to use a NL guest in for Karlsson, surely he has about a 7 point average?? Sorry don,t know the rules LOL I think they are usng a NL guest in the hope they can put together a team that includes Roynon and Karlsson. There is no reason otherwise. I think Neb probably has it in the 'teams looking for new riders' thread. I guess it depends on what Roynon's actual new average is as to whether they can redeclare with the league winning top 5 or not. I cannot currently for the life of me figure out the rolling averages this month. I had it last month but they ain't working this. Edited May 29, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 That is incorrect The reason Leicester is using NL guest James Sargent is because that is the only facility they are entitled to. Because Magnus signed for his swedish team before joining Leicester they have to take preference. If Leicester were to re declare with Adam Roynon in place of Magnus Karlsson then there has to be a minimum 28 days period before Karlsson could be reintroduced to the side. Which on current 4 matches we can't do without Magnus for. Espically if we redeclare with Roynon who then isn't quite ready then they are under strength . I still think Leicester can nick a point out of this because i feel at reserve we have a gem round Sheffield in Alex Edberg I think they are usng a NL guest in the hope they can put together a team that includes Roynon and Karlsson. There is no reason otherwise. I think Neb probably has it in the 'teams looking for new riders' thread. I guess it depends on what Roynon's actual new average is as to whether they can redeclare with the league winning top 5 or not. I cannot currently for the life of me figure out the rolling averages this month. I had it last month but they ain't working this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Olly Allen guests for Sheffield at No 1 in place of Simon "sicknote" Stead. Impressive when he rode for Dry House 11 pt from 4 rides round owalton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandersome Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) That is incorrect The reason Leicester is using NL guest James Sargent is because that is the only facility they are entitled to. Because Magnus signed for his swedish team before joining Leicester they have to take preference. If Leicester were to re declare with Adam Roynon in place of Magnus Karlsson then there has to be a minimum 28 days period before Karlsson could be reintroduced to the side. Which on current 4 matches we can't do without Magnus for. Espically if we redeclare with Roynon who then isn't quite ready then they are under strength . I still think Leicester can nick a point out of this because i feel at reserve we have a gem round Sheffield in Alex Edberg That is what i meant Lionking. I think they are running a NL guest so they still have the option to use Karlsson in the team. As you say, If they replace him for the Sheffield meeting then we cant then redeclare with him in the team for 28 days. I heard that Roynon has been out practicing at BP and looking good BTW. Edited May 29, 2013 by volty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 That is incorrect The reason Leicester is using NL guest James Sargent is because that is the only facility they are entitled to. Because Magnus signed for his swedish team before joining Leicester they have to take preference. If Leicester were to re declare with Adam Roynon in place of Magnus Karlsson then there has to be a minimum 28 days period before Karlsson could be reintroduced to the side. Which on current 4 matches we can't do without Magnus for. Espically if we redeclare with Roynon who then isn't quite ready then they are under strength . I still think Leicester can nick a point out of this because i feel at reserve we have a gem round Sheffield in Alex Edberg How well does he ride the track at Sheffield? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 That is what i meant Lionking. I think they are running a NL guest so they still have the option to use Karlsson in the team. As you say, If they replace him for the Sheffield meeting then we cant then redeclare with him in the team for 28 days. I heard that Roynon has been out practicing at BP and looking good BTW. Roynon practiced at Brandon on Monday and looked good. Said he felt good. Will be great to see him back racing. Great talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted May 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Never rode there to my knowledge but he seems the leg back put it in the dirt type rider. How well does he ride the track at Sheffield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 How well does he ride the track at Sheffield? Don't think he has ever ridden Sheffield not in PL anyway not sure about practicing or individuals !!!!!! Never rode there to my knowledge but he seems the leg back put it in the dirt type rider. Lets hope there is some dirt then :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheart Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 TBH I can't see the Lions getting much from this match. Nemo seems to be very off song, Bjerre is up and down like a funicular, Graverson is lost away from BP, and the reserves have done little to instill confidence. Doolan should do ok, but I think the Tigers by 10-12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennylion Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Would have said Tigers by 6-8 with Karlsson in. Sargent for MK will see a 10-12 point swing so am going for 16 point Tigers win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdsalBoy Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Well, I am not too convinced that we will win by such a great margin. Lets keep it real people. Here's my rider breakdown: Oliver Allen : Olly is no Simon Stead, but hes capable, a strong number 1 and knows Owlerton well. Expecting him to lead by example and hit the points. Facundo Albin: This young thrill machine has had a bit of a wobbly couple of weeks. Expect the unexpected with Albin. Will ride the boards, lay the bike down and hit useful points. Joe Haines: Yawn, one of the Sheffield "passengers" Im afriad, too inconsistent, looks off the pace, but i hope joe proves me wrong and bangs points in. Concerned. Richard Hall: Hally is a new rider since his old mate Stead has been back, will want to blow the cobwebs off and Show Olly Allen a few fast lines around Owlerton. Near max expected. Ricky Wells: Ahh Ricky! what a season he is having eh? He is our points machine at the moment and i expect this to carry on against Leicester. Jake Knight: Now that jake is full time PL we can see him relax and grab the bike by the bars, Jake will want to be in the mix from the off. But will he? Damien Koppe: Low score expected im afraid, this meeting could be his last in a Sheffield racejacket if an adequate score is not provided. Gutted as i for one was expecting better things from Damo. Please prove us all wrong. Edited May 29, 2013 by OdsalBoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel75 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I hope do not rainnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Go Facu tomorrow change the luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdsalBoy Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 I am 90% sure that this one will be called off. I am in Leeds but the rain has poured down all night, is still raining heavy as of now (07:35am), cant see it being much better in Sheffield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justathought Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) Becoming fine, dry and warm in much of the north. Sheffields in the North Edited May 30, 2013 by nightshift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 I thought you couldn't replace an assessed averaged rider until they had secured a real time average unless injured. If thats the case i don't think you could replace Koppe . We had the same problem last season with Jari Makinen. Well, I am not too convinced that we will win by such a great margin. Lets keep it real people. Here's my rider breakdown: Oliver Allen : Olly is no Simon Stead, but hes capable, a strong number 1 and knows Owlerton well. Expecting him to lead by example and hit the points. Facundo Albin: This young thrill machine has had a bit of a wobbly couple of weeks. Expect the unexpected with Albin. Will ride the boards, lay the bike down and hit useful points. Joe Haines: Yawn, one of the Sheffield "passengers" Im afriad, too inconsistent, looks off the pace, but i hope joe proves me wrong and bangs points in. Concerned. Richard Hall: Hally is a new rider since his old mate Stead has been back, will want to blow the cobwebs off and Show Olly Allen a few fast lines around Owlerton. Near max expected. Ricky Wells: Ahh Ricky! what a season he is having eh? He is our points machine at the moment and i expect this to carry on against Leicester. Jake Knight: Now that jake is full time PL we can see him relax and grab the bike by the bars, Jake will want to be in the mix from the off. But will he? Damien Koppe: Low score expected im afraid, this meeting could be his last in a Sheffield racejacket if an adequate score is not provided. Gutted as i for one was expecting better things from Damo. Please prove us all wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 I thought you couldn't replace an assessed averaged rider until they had secured a real time average unless injured. If thats the case i don't think you could replace Koppe . We had the same problem last season with Jari Makinen. Correct. Sheffield promotion have already said that the earliest they could possibly make a change is mid June - think somebody else calculated it to be the 20th to be more exact (rain offs aside). Could be an interesting meeting - if its gate and go racing then Leicester will be in the driving seat, if the track is raceable Sheffield should edge a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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