Gazc Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 At least the new promotion will have saved on points money this weekend. Joking aside, what a terrible result, surely changes need to be made. People pointed out pre season just how rubbish James Wright is, some on here were having none of it, i think the evidence is now overwhelming. It was indicated after the meeting was finished by Sean Courtney that there is to be a Re-vamp to the team , can't come quick enough as that was sore to watch last night and today we would struggle in the national league the way we are riding and the worse thing about it is I am serious . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Joking aside that was the worst ever home performance i've seen from a Tigers team in my life . Woeful doesn't come close to describing it . A score like that would be bad enough at the dump , but at home Joe Screen cant take on teams on his own , especially not teams as good as the binmen . Today , sadly , highlighted the gulf between the two Scottish sides . Looked a pretty decent crowd in the stadium today as well , despite the Scottish Cup final and Cyclone not being able to make it . Plenty thinking to be done in our camp ahead of our next home meeting against Workington in a fortnight . We've been patient , we've praised our new promotion for their efforts to make the club a success and we've backed the team . After this weekend's toothless performances , that team has come to the end of the road . Who we can attract ? Who is available ? And are they affordable ? Is something messers Biggart , Pairman and the directors will have to address before the season implodes and the Red Revolution bandwagon comes off it's wheels . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) Humped Thumped Battered Slaughtered The promotion call it the Red Revolution". I'd call it "Red Revolting" When one of the loudest cheers was in response to Sean Courtney's announcement that there will be team changes in the next two weeks, that sums up the day for Tiger's fans. Take nothing away from the Monarchs, they were superb. Even giving the poor home performance, they look superb. Barring injuries they will be in the running at the business end of the season. No doubt. Before I forget, let's hope Mitchell Davey is OK after his unfortunate and blameless tumble. The new promotion have impressed with their way of listening to the fans. There's been a lot of hard work gone into the marketing of the Tigers, sorting the track and the stadium; and today the presentation was a big improvement on previous seasons. In a similar vein, Sean's post-meetings address to the fans was needed, welcomed and clearly in touch with the fans' feelings. I get the strong feeling this promotion won't come up short. So here's hoping. So who goes? The writing was on the wall as early as heat 3. Lap 1, bend 3 and James Wright in second place looks over his shoulder before entering the bend when he should be thinking about challenging for the lead. The heat finishes 1-5, with James last. Heat 8 and Henning gets the TR ahead of James in heat 9. When your third heat leader isn't getting the TR, something is wrong. Heat 12 and Joe Tabaka is reeling him in. Under pressure on the final bend, an unforced error lets Tabaka through. Sorry James, whatever your issues are we cannot afford to wait and see if you manage to sort them out. The same can be said of Henning Bager. Don't know what your issues are. But how long do you expect the paying public to wait to see if they're sorted? With the exception of Screey and Grievsey, we were out-gated in every heat today. As Steve Lawson said, "the technique is there, the individual just needs to put it all together and really want to get to the first bend, in first place". What of our newbies? Well Steve could have been speaking about Harley Horwood. Not until heat 14 did he look like he wanted to be in first place. Maybe it's about confidence. I don't know. He looks on the pace, and comfortable on a bike. But he doesn't look like overtaking anyone. Joey has got something, but he can be a lose cannon. His finishing line clash with Davey being an example. A bit more polish and he could come good, as he has the speed. Joe J looked out of it today. I like him. Is it too many meetings of late taking their toll? In fairness to all the newbies, they need to be in a team where older more experienced heads are taking the weight off their shoulders. We shouldn't be expecting too much of them. Interestingly, in his programme notes, Gordon Pairman holds no punches. Good man. He is disappointed with the Leicester result and says those being paid by the promotion should give "honest effort". He also rightly says riders are professional sportsmen and even if they don't know what's wrong, they need to find a solution. Interestingly, he also says "do expect me to do everything possible to get a team sorted that can entertain everyone, including the management, .....". So not just the riders under pressure to give a decent return. Just the kind of leadership we need at this time. So over to you, the new promotion and Sean Courtney. You've started well in your new roles thus far. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Good luck. Let the team change speculation begin ..... Edited May 26, 2013 by george.m 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 with roynon coming back in the next week or so maybe glasgow should give magnus karlsson a call as my guess is he will be looking for a team place soon. You read it here first, i believe the deal has been done, and Magnus will become a Tiger in the near future, now the question is, who will make way ? Or will this be the only change ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albyhere Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I had a premonition about this happening. Honest.Saw it coming a mile away. What with my grass needing cut, the cup final on the box and my oh so reliable premonitions, I decided to give this a bye. Glad I did now. Also too as well even , laugh if you will, ( which means you will ) but with all that " bring a friend " stuff being shoved doon oor throats, I honestly felt if I walked in on ma tod, as per usual, wi' nae 'friends,' I'd be shunned. Sent to the back straight. Not trying hard enough. Honest it was getting on my wick. I've said this before, it's up to the suppliers of entertainment to provide sufficient 'said entertainment' to attract large crowds. Not expect existing fans to pester their nearest and dearest to come along with them. Get the product right and the crowds will come. About the team. Changes we say. Indeed. Changes. But who? There ain't any left that I can see. Personally I am pissed off that Vissing was going abegging at the start of the season and we let our biggest rivals snap him up. Hindsight is a wonderful gift but I was dead against so many untried young lads in the team. Then I thought they might come good, now I feel I was right in the first place. The odds against getting three or four rookies to gell in their first season in the Premier was cloud cuckoo land stuff. I'm afraid we're stuffed for this season and we'll just have to cheer the guys we have to better things, but please, enough of this begging to 'bring a friend' stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Have you sent that cheque for Joe Jacobs yet? If not get a move on please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heather21 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 You read it here first, i believe the deal has been done, and Magnus will become a Tiger in the near future, now the question is, who will make way ? Or will this be the only change ? We will have about 5 points to play with once the new averages come out so it really could be anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickj37 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 You read it here first, i believe the deal has been done, and Magnus will become a Tiger in the near future, now the question is, who will make way ? Or will this be the only change ? So where have you heard that then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 http://www.glasgowtigers.co/?p=2364 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyH Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 While obviously delighted with the score today, it is worrying to see the Tigers in such a mess. The team was a huge gamble at the start of the season, you had two old timers who would have their good days but probably not increase their average, two riders who had went downhill rapidly from their EL days and three untried riders. It's not worked. It's never easy to bring in riders when there's not many available but anything would be an improvement now. At least it's still early in the season so you can strengthen up and try and give us a match in the Scottish Cup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 why don't they just bin everywhere apart from screen and perhaps screen? the rest are simply knowhere near good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTLAND1314 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Oooft what happened there? On the face of things Glasgow Tigers took a beating to beat all beatings. With every Edinburgh rider winning a race and all putting in good scores with special mentions to Derek 'Paid max' Sneddon and Max 'best score of the season' Fricke. But as ever there are two teams on show but most of the home men were riding as if they'd already been given their jotters... Hopefully Glasgow can turn this around soon, as as nice it is to beat your local rivals it wasn't much of a contest today. On the plus side the Glasgow track does appear to have more passing opportunities on it. Plus the bar is looking good. It was good to have the pleasure of George.m's company today and nice to say hello to PC and Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 http://www.glasgowtigers.co/?p=2364 Full credit for the promotion in communicating this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Biggest away win against the tiggers of all time and i missed it. Out of all the matches to miss and i missed this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTLAND1314 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Courtesy of Edinburgh Monarchs speedway http://www.edinburghmonarchs.co/news/article.asp?id=1344 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Oooft what happened there? On the face of things Glasgow Tigers took a beating to beat all beatings. With every Edinburgh rider winning a race and all putting in good scores with special mentions to Derek 'Paid max' Sneddon and Max 'best score of the season' Fricke. But as ever there are two teams on show but most of the home men were riding as if they'd already been given their jotters... Hopefully Glasgow can turn this around soon, as as nice it is to beat your local rivals it wasn't much of a contest today. On the plus side the Glasgow track does appear to have more passing opportunities on it. Plus the bar is looking good. It was good to have the pleasure of George.m's company today and nice to say hello to PC and Co. Good to see you again too Scotland 1314 and to meet Gordon. Hopefully next derby meeting we can have some rival banter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Have you sent that cheque for Joe Jacobs yet? If not get a move on please Not sure i get this? I through Ipswich still has a problem with their number 2 spot? Ipswich fans have been saying Richie Hawkins is doing the job they needed but is only temp cover? If you look at this weeks speedway star you will see Richie Hawkins is on a 4.20 average at the moment which is the same as JJs? Looks like Ipswich held the missing card all along? Either way his a local lad and I would have throught Ipswich folk would like to see him do well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Think enough has been said about the Glasgow team, Glasgow fans were asked to bring a friend along today and well it wasnt much of a meeting for a first timer. And it wasnt helped by the amount of dust (yes i know it was a warm day) heat after heat. There surely has to be a better watering system than that little trailer going round putting very little water out and by the time the next heat comes after the grading/watering there is dust on the first lap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) Think enough has been said about the Glasgow team, Glasgow fans were asked to bring a friend along today and well it wasnt much of a meeting for a first timer. And it wasnt helped by the amount of dust (yes i know it was a warm day) heat after heat. There surely has to be a better watering system than that little trailer going round putting very little water out and by the time the next heat comes after the grading/watering there is dust on the first lap! Watching the watering today, bends 1 and 2 were continually watered on the outside line, yet the riders enter bend 1 on the inside. Therefore there was still dust. Perhaps I'm missing something. Edited May 26, 2013 by george.m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Watching the watering today, bends 1 and 2 were continually watered on the outside line, yet the riders enter bend 1 on the inside. Therefore there was still dust. Perhaps I'm missing something. you probably missed the riders moaning in the pits regarding any track watering nowadays ,track grading and light watering should happen in these conditions but modern technology seems to be against this.No thought regarding the paying public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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