PHILIPRISING Posted December 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Why should we believe you though Phil on this thread you stated that the correct procedure was followed to get Harris into the meeting!' Thats been proved as wrong so why should we just accept your right this time BUT I didn't say that ... I wrote when asked the question the FIM said the correct procedure had been followed. And I certainly never said that the correct procedure was followed to get Harris into the meeting. Try putting two and two together and getting four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Is Emil in or out of the GP series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 BUT I didn't say that ... I wrote when asked the question the FIM said the correct procedure had been followed. FOR heaven's sake ... we have been all over this before. It is just the way it panned out, especially after Zagar withdrew. Other riders refused the chance to participate in the Challenge, others declined to go as a meeting reserve. Harris was prepared to turn up at Wimborne Road and watch from the pits. But he got his chance and took it.This is probably where we get confused Phil.It reads as if it is your words,your belief.No mention of the FIM,just you saying everything was done correctly.Like i say,maybe a bit more investigation would have done the job before coming out with this sort of thing so often.A quick email to one or two of the riders involved and we would have all been a bit wiser a lot sooner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 If when Zagar pulled out of the GP Challenge, which I think was made public midweek before a Saturday meeting, any rider who felt they should be next in line to ride could have made themselves available. Riders can control their own fate. Is Emil in or out of the GP series? Not 100% sure but I think it depends on the GP bosses saying he can't do the Euro Championships as well. If they bar him from the Euro's he's said he'll pull out the GP series to race in the Euro's only. Good to see the authorities working in unison - not ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 INTERESTING scenario. FIM certainly haven't changed their tune, as I was told today. Riders cannot do both. However, Emil, unlike Tomasz Gollob, has submitted his entry form for the SGP. Are there sanctions the FIM can take if a rider refuses to ride? I can remember times when the likes of Briggs and Mauger were given three day bans for refusing to race in FIM meetings. Perhaps the FIM will withdraw Emil's licence over a GP weekend if he doesn't race, which would rule him out of Polish league matches. FIM being very non-committal on this question right now, playing their cards close to their chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Is it enforceable and do the FIM have a leg to stand on or will they make themselves look foolish yet again?Is it an unreasonable restriction of trade?It is a restriction that has never been there before,so could easily be shown to be unreasonable.Is it a restriction applied after Emil had already sent in his entry form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 If a rider refuses to ride in a GP then the rider will be banned from racing on the day before and the day after the event plus he's not allowed to race in the rest of the GP meetings of that season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 If a rider refuses to ride in a GP then the rider will be banned from racing on the day before and the day after the event plus he's not allowed to race in the rest of the GP meetings of that season. Well that would be simple for Emil.He doesn't ride in NZ.So they ban him from all meetings that weekend and he is not allowed to ride in any more GPs that season.Job done.What he wanted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 FINE if that what's you want to believe... just so happens on this occasion at least you are absolutely wrong. How do you know that they tell you the truth? It's hardly something they would admit is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 NOT as far as the Challenge and its qualification process is concerned. Why should they (BSI)? More bums on seats at Cardiff is a possibility - more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 More bums on seats at Cardiff is a possibility - more money. Come on! If they'd wanted Bomber in the series they's have picked him not engineered the complex conspiracy to get him in. Niamh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemaris Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Long time reader first post. Had to post on this thread as it's so laughable! I love a conspriacy theory.. personally I reckon it was the lone gunman on the grassy knoll that got Harris into the series. LOL Harris is in the GP's & that's it. Get behind the guy & support him, or just do what a load of other people do & support the foreign rider who happens to ride for your club - which I find pretty sad. (obviously not if you're non-British) Good luck to Chris & Tai in the SGP 2014 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixy230 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 So after all that we do not know who to believe!!!!!!!!!!!! And we will never know the truth!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 So after all that we do not know who to believe!!!!!!!!!!!! And we will never know the truth!!!!!!!!!!!! We might !!!! if the FIM answer some questions such as 1 when did Zagar withdraw from the GP Challenge final 2 what are the FIM rules for replacing riders who withdraw. 3 which federations were contacted to provide a replacement and when 4 When Kildemand was promoted into the meeting proper why wasn`t a reserve nominated from the Holsted semi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 We might !!!! if the FIM answer some questions such as 1 when did Zagar withdraw from the GP Challenge final 2 what are the FIM rules for replacing riders who withdraw. 3 which federations were contacted to provide a replacement and when 4 When Kildemand was promoted into the meeting proper why wasn`t a reserve nominated from the Holsted semi But i guess they never will answer those questions.They won't even answer the riders who are involved in such situations.Not only Dilger,but i posted a link round this time last year when Dryml was having trouble and he also stated the FIM never sent him a reply.Seems indicative of the organisation and really quite outrageous that they don't feel the need to answer riders!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Regardless of the circumstances Chris Harris is in the series. Lucky? Yes for sure. But luck sometimes comes to those who want it and this is a rider who has always wanted to be in the series and been very upfront about the fact. Should he be in this series? Well, we'll know by the end of Torun next year. Woffy himself was condemned for making up the numbers and though I think Chris has no chance of the crown next year, the ball is 100% in his court to prove he is worthy of this opportunity. My opinion on the GP is you have the elite band of 6-8 riders who can win multiple GPs per year, are consistent and a class above. Then the next 20-25 in the world are very close on ability and who gets those last 7-9 spots is down to marking your turf and making your claim. Good luck to all 15 in 2015! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Harris is in the GP's & that's it. Get behind the guy & support him, or just do what a load of other people do & support the foreign rider who happens to ride for your club - which I find pretty sad. (obviously not if you're non-British) Good luck to Chris & Tai in the SGP 2014 Well said... Good luck to Chris and Tai next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 We might !!!! if the FIM answer some questions such as 1 when did Zagar withdraw from the GP Challenge final 2 what are the FIM rules for replacing riders who withdraw. 3 which federations were contacted to provide a replacement and when 4 When Kildemand was promoted into the meeting proper why wasn`t a reserve nominated from the Holsted semi Still can't get my head round why a wild card selected by the organisers who has declined to enter the competition cannot be replaced by another wild card of the organisers choice rather than being forced to use a rider who finished 5th in the Grand Prix challenge ! not withstanding that rider having already being eliminated in an earlier qualifying round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Because its what yhe rules state. Though I agreee the rules dont make much sense, and one suspects may be changed before next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) Delete duplicate Edited December 18, 2013 by waihekeaces1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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