The White Knight Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 WELL put ... anyone who believes you can lay the blame for all British domestic speedway's ills at the foot of the SGP needs a guide dog I never stated ALL of Speedway's problems Philip - just a hell of a lot of them. Race days as has been mentioned and lack of top Riders in our so called Elite League is another, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 The backbone of British League Division One was weekly Friday and Saturday night racing and that has been lost. Tracks rode 20-30 meeting seasons, not 14. Nobody can tell me that we have made progress from that position. Yes times change but that doesn't mean we simply let things fall apart in response. You wouldn't say "time's moved on, there's nothing we can do" to a sick person so why say it to a sick sport? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 BUT that has much to do with the proliferation of other leagues, particularly in Poland. Most of the riders who don't race in the UK are in the SGP anyway. The fact is that it is uch more convenient and lucrative to ply their trade across the Channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 BUT that has much to do with the proliferation of other leagues, particularly in Poland. Most of the riders who don't race in the UK are in the SGP anyway. The fact is that it is uch more convenient and lucrative to ply their trade across the Channel. CORRECTION (cannot type this morning, still shell shocked at bar prices at our hotel in Stockholm) ... should have read "aren't in the SGP anyway" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelle Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 CORRECTION (cannot type this morning, still shell shocked at bar prices at our hotel in Stockholm) ... should have read "aren't in the SGP anyway" How much a pint Phil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Pretty much confirmed from what I have heard Jonsson Holder Gollob Laguta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 GET your hearing tested... How much a pint Phil? COULD only afford a half! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) If Mr G requires and wants a nomination then he should get one - no question. Holder a certainty. The other two are more difficult. Given how keen they were for years to keep 2 Brits in, is it not likely that 2 Swedes will get picks? Especially given the healthy looking crowd last night. Can't see past Lindgren and Jonsson to be honest. Antonio continues to struggle and has finished behind the other two and there is no other candidate from Sweden who has made a compelling case for inclusion (though the two kids at reserve last night looked distinctly promising). Is it possible that individual riders who are sponsored by Monster might get preferential treatment given the drinks company's relationship with the series? I guess we'll soon find out. Edited September 22, 2013 by salty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_D Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Given the fact Chris Holder is still along way from being fit and despite all the noises about wanting to be fit for New Zealand he is likely to be far from race fit and even further from top 8 fit. It maybe worth him sitting out 2014 gp season and be fully race fit with high confidence for 2015 from just league racing. If his injuries do not heal quickly and he does not return until say July and Cardiff then he will need a wild card for 2015 anyway. He is still young and there is no point risking his long term health coming back too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 If Mr G requires and wants a nomination then he should get one - no question. Holder a certainty. The other two are more difficult. Given how keen they were for years to keep 2 Brits in, is it not likely that 2 Swedes will get picks? Especially given the healthy looking crowd last night. Can't see past Lindgren and Jonsson to be honest. Antonio continues to struggle and has finished behind the other two and there is no other candidate from Sweden who has made a compelling case for inclusion (though the two kids at reserve last night looked distinctly promising). Is it possible that individual riders who are sponsored by Monster might get preferential treatment given the drinks company's relationship with the series? I guess we'll soon find out. Yet MORE people dishing out places in the GP. Bl**dy GREAT isn't it. :mad: I don't know why they don't just do away with QUALIFYING altogether and just stick in the Riders they want. That is the way the SGP seems to be going anyway. :mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Do you really think that the GP series would have been the better this year with Dryml in it rather than Tai & Ward? Niamh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Do you really think that the GP series would have been the better this year with Dryml in it rather than Tai & Ward? Niamh That's not the point, It's about who deserves it. It's like, The World Cup Final in 2014 would be better with a Brazil-Argentina final so let's seed those two into the final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Well if you don't actually want the best in the world... Niamh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) Well if you don't actually want the best in the world... Niamh Well why the heck have QUALIFYING Rounds Niamh - if you are just going to PICK the 'best in the World'. I really can't understand why you don't seem to get it - we are talking about a SPORT - you know COMPETITION. Ian Edited September 22, 2013 by The White Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Well if you don't actually want the best in the world... Niamh So how do you decide which riders are the best in the world? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 So how do you decide which riders are the best in the world? A VERY good and fair point Ghostwalker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Do you seriously think Dryml is better than Tai or Ward, both of whom were unable to do the GP challenge last year? I mean just look at how each of them is doing in this year's GP series? Do you think Bomber is better than Noddy? Niamh So how do you decide which riders are the best in the world? Well I think most of us would have no problem deciding that Dryml wasn't one of them! Niamh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hard choices for wild cards. Holder and Gollob will be in then possibly a swede but please stop talking about it being Thj who clearly is so far from this level may as well pick Cook! Jonsson for me and then 1 other. I don't go with this new blood theory I want to see the top riders in the world and the likes of Mjj Dudek and Magic are simply not better than the likes of Lindgren and Jonsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Do you seriously think Dryml is better than Tai or Ward, both of whom were unable to do the GP challenge last year? I mean just look at how each of them is doing in this year's GP series? Do you think Bomber is better than Noddy? Niamh Well I think most of us would have no problem deciding that Dryml wasn't one of them! Niamh But you still haven't answered the questions Niamh: i) Why have Qualifiers? and ii) How do you decide who are the best in the World? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 The qualifiers are no better at finding the best either hence the reason we end up with tosh like Dryml ot Zorto etc before him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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