Ipswich Vs Somerset Thursday 16th May 7.30pm Pl

[Jackal]

Always a pleasure watching Doyle at Ipswich, the best rider round our track by far.

 

Not just around foxhall Baldyman but by far the best rider in the premier league by a long way. Wonder if the new Morten will turn up tonight and what Ben will turn up, the Witches are so hit and miss you never can rely on anybody in the team. Lanham seems to be showing his age with some awful scores lately, Rohan seems better for Poole and Ritchie can I suppose be relied on for his usual 4-5 points. Its at reserve where the Witches strongest point seems to be with 2 riders capable of beating anyone. Think Doyle will get 17-18 points tonight with no misfortunes but the rest of the team look vulnerable without Morris and I would expect a Witches win.

[screm]

Not just around foxhall Baldyman but by far the best rider in the premier league by a long way.

 

 

Edward Kennett,thats all Im saying,Edward Kennett.

[CardinalSin]

Really looking forward to tonight should be some good racing particularly between Barker and Doyle. Hope to see both Risager and Heeps continue their excellent form also. Early days but the team has been the most entertaining we've had in the PL so far in my opinion.

[2ndbendbeerhut]

Weather forecast now looks good with the rain staying out in the north sea. Think it will be tougher than people are expecting. last time Somerset had Nielsen not completing a race and Davies ending up in casualty.

[CardinalSin]

Weather forecast now looks good with the rain staying out in the north sea. Think it will be tougher than people are expecting. last time Somerset had Nielsen not completing a race and Davies ending up in casualty.

I agree. I like Davies he's moved up in to the main body of the team seamlessly and is definitely a talent. I think we will take the 3 points but it will be tighter than others have predicted I think.

[Travertine]

I agree. I like Davies he's moved up in to the main body of the team seamlessly and is definitely a talent. I think we'll take the 3 points but it will be tighter than others have predicted I think.

 

I must have my gloomy head on today, because I think the Rebels might just sneak a point, maybe even more. Remember, if Doyle sneaks in with a team mate behind him whilst on a tactical, much of the hard work building up a lead could be for nothing.

 

Could be wrong though and would be happy to be proved otherwise!

[Baldyman]

What else can I say, Doyle you are the man.

[oldtimer]

Rebels reserves poor again, Doyle great and Josh, Kyle and after slow start Alex all did well. Only fair Rebels didn't nick a point due to the hated tactical.

[Brooksy]

Great effort by a depleted Rebels side. Can't believe we've lost by 7 again!! That's the 4th time in 5 away matches this season! If only our reserves could score some points. . . . . . any points!

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

It would certainly have been an unjustice had the Witches not picked up all 3 points despite a spirited effort (as I expected) from the Rebels.

 

The curse of the No1 Witches jacket struck again -Doyle only wore it as a guest and how the voodoo curse followed him in 15!!

 

And finally - Super Morten - Witches No1 elect -Aljackal were you watching?!

[Jackal]

Well think my slightly earlier posting was spot on with my assessment of what was going to happen in the meeting, well done jackal

I think cl needs to have a quiet word in Rohans ear, as without doubt he gives 100% for Poole but certainly do not for Witches and I thought the way he was passed in 3 races was a disgrace as he never went for the faster lines out wide!!! He do not seem committed to the Witches cause at all.

Lanham to my mind looks like an old rider just trying to hold onto his present average and team place and cl should look elsewhere next season.

Cannot fault the other 5 for their efforts as they all gave 100% and that is why the Witches won by 7 points

[2ndbendbeerhut]

Great match, said it would be closer than people were saying, got the 3 points but only just!

Barker - stood up in heat 15 when it was needed and secured the points, but when will he win a heat 1? Well i can possibly answer that.... when he doesn't go wide on 1/2 on the first lap! Every week he has tried the blast around the outside which quite clearly doesn't work! Also when off inside needs to stay on that line.

Hawkins - Alwasy in the mix and would have scored more if he had held his line on the inside in heat 10

Tungate - Won heat 3 but then was passed in his next 3 heats by his Aussie mates. Quite poor really.

Risager - Only dropped a point and was not to be moved in heat 15. Only small gripe is that heat 14 is a heat that he should be winning every week, as should Hawkins in heat 2 and Tungate in heat 12, all 3 riders failed last night!

Lanham - Down on power it seems but did his job especially in 13 when he split the Rebels pair

Ellis - Struggling with hip injury, not helped by his crash on 1st bend. Could have been all 4 back and only just got off the track.

Heeps - Stuck at the task and did his job, performance a bit less than recent weeks but still scored paid 9!

 

Nielsen - He did finish a race but still no points and well off the pace,

Perry - only scored his point by beating Nielsen in heat 2 and well off the pace too.

R/R Morris - Rebels scored 9 so not too bad,

Grajconek - was steady all night, always in the mix

Newman - was gating well (too well in heat 8, thought he was Rene Bach) and did his job, 1st time he didn't fall off at Foxhall in a long time!

Davies - Started meeting poorly but soon found a setup and able to get past both Tungate and Risager to win his last 2 heats.

Doyle - Normal Foxhall service, looked on half throttle when winning races, but was beaten by Risager in his 2nd heat, did pass Tungate in that heat, and got past Lanham in heat 13. However blotted his night with his last heat antics. Risager gated from 1 and off the 2nd bend Doyle tried to barge his way past but failed. Going into the 3rd bend he tried to charge under him again but Risager held firm. At this point Barker had got round the pair and the Witches were on a 5-1. He obviously thought this was going to work, so tried again into the 1st bend only to clip the back of Risager's bike and was highsided onto his shoulder. White light on and he was excluded from the rerun. Stayed down a while but then jumped up and raced back to the pits to confront Risager. Apparently Risager was to blame as was too slow into the bends so he should have been excluded!

 

Witches team rode superbly to keep Grajconek in third and all 3 points were for the Witches

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

I think Doyles reaction was all adrenalin. I must admit I thought he may be taking a trip in the ambulance so it was good to see him up despite his reaction.

 

Perhaps he was angry with himself for losing his head. Morten was always going to put it into reverse at bend1 to keep it on the white line whilst Ben came round the outside so it was a crazy move.

[Ipswich Jules]

Good win against Somerset, I wouldn't say they were "depleted" as they were only missing one rider, ok it's a rider that does well round Foxhall but the decision to use R/R rather than a guest seemed strange to me? Yes it would of giving Doyle an extra ride but for the rest of the riders getting one they are all very hit and miss around Foxhall. It could of been that R/R for Morris would of only scored 2-4 points, as it was the facility scored 9 which is what you'd expect from Morris so it worked out ok in the end but it could easily of gone wrong for the Rebels.

On the other side of the pit wall I (and several others) had to question Pete Simmons in heat 10, when the Witches were up by 10 Somerset decided not to use the BW helmet on Josh, and with Doyle in heat 11 it was obvious what the Somerset plan was - to get no worse than a 3-3 at best then use the BW on Doyle in the next heat.

I could see it, the people stood around me could see it and friends I spoke to afterwards that stand in other locations around the track could see it also, so what Ipswich should of done it let Somerset get a 4-2 advantage thus preventing Doyle from the BW ride - did we do that? No, Barker went and won the heat with Hawkins at the back so putting Somerset in the perfect situation for them.

so out comes Doyle in heat 11 on the farcical double point rule, tapes go up, it's all tight going into the first bend, a bit of dominos and Ellis gets the rough end and is skittled off.......waiting for the ref to put on the red lights.....waiting.......still waiting...nothing. Ellis just about gets off the track in time and the race continues! If there was ever a textbook example of first bend bunching and all four back then that was it - why it wasn't stopped I don't know.

By this time Doyle had got past Lanham and were on a 7-2 and that's how it stayed.

I'm not saying Adam would of beaten Doyle but it would probably of been a 6-3 rather than a 7-2 and that 2 point swing would of proved vital.

All because we didn't let them take a heat advantage in heat 10 - that decision / oversight almost cost us the meeting.

 

Another point to mention was heat 15, Doyle was outgated by both Witches who were on a 5-1 after the first lap, Doyle was from gate 2 and Risager off 1, Morten and Ben done a classic scissor on Doyle from the gate and baulked his run, he then spent then next couple of turns trying to get underneath Risager - anybody who watches Ipswich regularly will know that Morten likes the inside so Doyle - despite being faster - was having no joy.

Coming into the first bend of the second time he was once again inside Morten but a bike length behind, Morten took the inside on the entry to the corner with Barker team riding the outside. Doyle again tried the pointless task f getting up the inside (why he hadn't switched to try and go round Morten I don't understand) and he t-boned Risager, took a nasty tumble and was rightfully excluded.

He then proceeded to storm back to the pits with a face of thunder - quite why nobody could understand as it was clearly his fault - upon his return to the pits he slammed his helmet down in his bay, proceeded to turn the air blue (VERY blue) before explaining to Tungate that it was Mortens fault as he "had no speed going into the bend", so clearly Doyle thought it was ok to ride through him? Why didn't he just back off a touch and go round him rather than try and get up the inside which was never going to happen.

Further to this Jason tweeted last night that fans were cheering and laughing at his crash - no Jason, nobody laughed or cheered when you had your fall, people cheered and laughed when you were storming back to the pits seemingly about to start a fight with someone for no obvious reason!

 

I think Doyles reaction was all adrenalin. I must admit I thought he may be taking a trip in the ambulance so it was good to see him up despite his reaction.

 

Perhaps he was angry with himself for losing his head. Morten was always going to put it into reverse at bend1 to keep it on the white line whilst Ben came round the outside so it was a crazy move.

 

Oh no, he clearly blamed Morten if you'd of heard what he called him when he got back to his pit bay (and everybody in the pits heard it!) - he didn't actually go and say it to Mortens face though.......

[Baldyman]

I must admit, Doyle is very fast into the turns and the way he took lanham was like he was standing still. Another great night for morten, now just needs to keep this up and he will have an excellent season. It's amazing what a bit of confidence and a new engine can do, only gripe, he sometimes needs to move off the line to pass riders, can't always do it on inside. Barker really doesn't know anything apart from try to blast around fence, never gonna work in heat one, maybe someone should try telling him this? I'm also amazed that rohan can score 10 for Poole, but then doesn't look so committed for us, I'm not saying he isn't, but just doesn't look like it, still has a very untidy and wobbly style, and another that always seems to pick the safe line as jackal says.

[Statman]

Good win against Somerset, I wouldn't say they were "depleted" as they were only missing one rider, ok it's a rider that does well round Foxhall but the decision to use R/R rather than a guest seemed strange to me? Yes it would of giving Doyle an extra ride but for the rest of the riders getting one they are all very hit and miss around Foxhall. It could of been that R/R for Morris would of only scored 2-4 points, as it was the facility scored 9 which is what you'd expect from Morris so it worked out ok in the end but it could easily of gone wrong for the Rebels.

On the other side of the pit wall I (and several others) had to question Pete Simmons in heat 10, when the Witches were up by 10 Somerset decided not to use the BW helmet on Josh, and with Doyle in heat 11 it was obvious what the Somerset plan was - to get no worse than a 3-3 at best then use the BW on Doyle in the next heat.

I could see it, the people stood around me could see it and friends I spoke to afterwards that stand in other locations around the track could see it also, so what Ipswich should of done it let Somerset get a 4-2 advantage thus preventing Doyle from the BW ride - did we do that? No, Barker went and won the heat with Hawkins at the back so putting Somerset in the perfect situation for them.

so out comes Doyle in heat 11 on the farcical double point rule, tapes go up, it's all tight going into the first bend, a bit of dominos and Ellis gets the rough end and is skittled off.......waiting for the ref to put on the red lights.....waiting.......still waiting...nothing. Ellis just about gets off the track in time and the race continues! If there was ever a textbook example of first bend bunching and all four back then that was it - why it wasn't stopped I don't know.

By this time Doyle had got past Lanham and were on a 7-2 and that's how it stayed.

I'm not saying Adam would of beaten Doyle but it would probably of been a 6-3 rather than a 7-2 and that 2 point swing would of proved vital.

All because we didn't let them take a heat advantage in heat 10 - that decision / oversight almost cost us the meeting.

 

Another point to mention was heat 15, Doyle was outgated by both Witches who were on a 5-1 after the first lap, Doyle was from gate 2 and Risager off 1, Morten and Ben done a classic scissor on Doyle from the gate and baulked his run, he then spent then next couple of turns trying to get underneath Risager - anybody who watches Ipswich regularly will know that Morten likes the inside so Doyle - despite being faster - was having no joy.

Coming into the first bend of the second time he was once again inside Morten but a bike length behind, Morten took the inside on the entry to the corner with Barker team riding the outside. Doyle again tried the pointless task f getting up the inside (why he hadn't switched to try and go round Morten I don't understand) and he t-boned Risager, took a nasty tumble and was rightfully excluded.

He then proceeded to storm back to the pits with a face of thunder - quite why nobody could understand as it was clearly his fault - upon his return to the pits he slammed his helmet down in his bay, proceeded to turn the air blue (VERY blue) before explaining to Tungate that it was Mortens fault as he "had no speed going into the bend", so clearly Doyle thought it was ok to ride through him? Why didn't he just back off a touch and go round him rather than try and get up the inside which was never going to happen.

Further to this Jason tweeted last night that fans were cheering and laughing at his crash - no Jason, nobody laughed or cheered when you had your fall, people cheered and laughed when you were storming back to the pits seemingly about to start a fight with someone for no obvious reason!

 

 

 

Oh no, he clearly blamed Morten if you'd of heard what he called him when he got back to his pit bay (and everybody in the pits heard it!) - he didn't actually go and say it to Mortens face though.......

Rules don't permit use of a guest when it just one rider out of top 5 missing from team...R/R was only option available to Rebels Edited May 17, 2013 by Statman

[Ipswich Jules]

Rules don't permit use of a guest when it just one rider out of top 5 missing from team...R/R was only option available to Rebels

 

Thanks Statman, you learn something new every day!

[Statman]

Thanks Statman, you learn something new every day!

My pleasure..........the only difference to that is if the only rider out from top 5 is your number 1, then a guest or R/R is the facility available to a team

[Siggytastic]

Another good entertaining meeting. So far this year, the quality of racing has been very good and puts to shame the racing that Sky serves up from the Elite League. Why would anyone want to move up as things are?

Edited May 17, 2013 by Siggytastic

[Bash]

Jason Doyle obviously doesn't know the art of team riding as you slow down or speed up to stay with your team mate, I never see him looking for his team mates. As previous posts say he should look at a way of trying to go round an opponent not through them, the sport is supposed to be non contact!

Somerset are realy let down by their reserves, they are probably okay at home on their fast track, but when they come to the tight technical tracks they really haven't got a clue how to ride them.

A good result for Ipswich in the end, but that dreaded tactical ride almost ruined it.