BluPanther Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 MOST custom built tracks in Europe are not 'tight technical' tracks, they are big fast circuits, that tells you everything. WTC meetings have been held at Lynn and Pboro for one simple reason, they are more exciting. Nothing against Wolves having the Final, but maybe it would be good to share it around so that more fans can witness the National Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Think the meeting will still be held at Monmore,until the new national stadium is built at Manchester.Anyway,wasnt it mentioned a couple of seasons ago that Sky prefered it to be at Wolves,because there have been few televised matches there that wernt entertaining.(OK,last night was nothing special). As for not being easy to ride(watched the re-run later)didnt Cookie say just the opposite.That it was very easy to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 I believe totally that it should be shared around. The top boys would have cracking races anywhere its about the quality! Coventry isn't exactly a superb exciting track but I've seen some amazing British finals there when you had at least 8 guys who could win it. I've seen boring meetings at all tracks fast and technical. Trouble is the only good races at a British final now is if it involves tai or Scott or Harris. If it was held at kings Lynn or Peterborough you would have had riders like Haines and Birks and Wright miles behind and the racing would have been processional. Tai is head an shoulders above the rest at the moment and I think the fact that it was at wolves meant Scott and bomber had a chance to be honest. As good as cook and worrall are they will probably never be gp riders in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 I THINK you also have to look at the geography. Wolverhampton is centrally placed and that must be a consideration for the fans surely? Since when did the BSPA do anything to consider the fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 I THINK you also have to look at the geography. Wolverhampton is centrally placed and that must be a consideration for the fans surely? Oh don't start that Rubbish again Phil. You'l have the Coventry fans barking from Coventry to Somerset... Rosco im STILL waiting for heats 23 and 24 to start!!! ,whens it happening? Good old Rosco, always looking for a Larf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) Anyway,wasnt it mentioned a couple of seasons ago that Sky prefered it to be at Wolves,because there have been few televised matches there that wernt entertaining.(OK,last night was nothing special). That can't be true as Wolves are classic "curse of Sky" sufferers whereby every match is great until Sky show up. As good as cook and worrall are they will probably never be gp riders in my opinion. They might get nominated. That's all it takes now. Edited May 14, 2013 by ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Scott should be at cardff came 2nd in the race that counts........Well done Tai Fully deserved the Title..... Why should Scott be at Cardiff? The race that counted? There wasn't one in case you missed it. deserved because he came 2nd to Tai.... End of.As above, there was no such thing. As i said, if people are going to bang on about 2nd place getting the wild card slot, I'll bang on about Bomber being cheated out of 2nd place as he was 2nd highest scorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Why should Scott be at Cardiff? The race that counted? There wasn't one in case you missed it. As above, there was no such thing. As i said, if people are going to bang on about 2nd place getting the wild card slot, I'll bang on about Bomber being cheated out of 2nd place as he was 2nd highest scorer. always been the case for the last few years and it should have stayed the same! Scott can feel aggrieved that bomber threw his toys out if the pram. You are in a minority of 1 who think Harris should be there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Why should Scott be at Cardiff? The race that counted? There wasn't one in case you missed it. Because he was second to Tai, simple as.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Why should Scott be at Cardiff? The race that counted? There wasn't one in case you missed it. As above, there was no such thing. As i said, if people are going to bang on about 2nd place getting the wild card slot, I'll bang on about Bomber being cheated out of 2nd place as he was 2nd highest scorer. you would..... But second top scorer hasn't meant a thing for many a year and surely, not even you can argue that bomber has had his day and umpteen chances. Or......are.........You just attention seeking as per?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Because he was second to Tai, simple as.. No he wasn't, Bomber was, look at the scores. Tai 15, Bomber 12 and Scott only 11. you would..... But second top scorer hasn't meant a thing for many a year and surely, not even you can argue that bomber has had his day and umpteen chances. Or......are......... You just attention seeking as per?? No, I'm pointing out that people are being selective. You can't chose to use last years rule of 2nd place get the GP place while ignoring old rules that 2nd highest scorer finishes 2nd. Using you your, "second top scorer hasn't meant a thing for many a year" theory, finishing 2nd place doesn't mean you qualify for the GP any more. Bomber has had chances, he's not even riding that well this year but honestly, who do you think will do a better job at Cardiff? Because Scott won't, he's riding worse than Bomber. Cook? Well he couldn't beat an under performing, off form Chris Harris and Scott Nicholls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Now that Woffinden has finally won on his home track hopefully the event will be moved now to a more neutral track. Or a series of 3 meetings at say Berwick, Ipswich and Somerset would be good. Whichever EL track you hold it on, it will be an adavantage to someone, and I can't see it being held on a PL track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 It is a technical track and there is a home advantage,most passes generally are on the inside.All i said it is a hard track for non gaters to race on if Wolves are the only track to want the event so be it but i have my doubts on that if so it should be shared around. You clearly don't see much action from or at Wolves if you think it is a gaters track. That can't be true as Wolves are classic "curse of Sky" sufferers whereby every match is great until Sky show up. Given how long SKY have been showing live matches there have been more good meetings from Monmore than not. Certainly generally speaking most will agree that it is usually a good meeting watching racing at Wolves. Even i will say that i have watched some meetings where races are long drawn out. It happens at all tracks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Whichever EL track you hold it on, it will be an adavantage to someone, and I can't see it being held on a PL track. EOES wouldn't favor anyone IMO, as such a neutral race track for the majority. But with CVS in charge, will always be at Wolves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Potter 2 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) No he wasn't, Bomber was, look at the scores. Tai 15, Bomber 12 and Scott only 11. No, I'm pointing out that people are being selective. You can't chose to use last years rule of 2nd place get the GP place while ignoring old rules that 2nd highest scorer finishes 2nd. Using you your, "second top scorer hasn't meant a thing for many a year" theory, finishing 2nd place doesn't mean you qualify for the GP any more. Bomber has had chances, he's not even riding that well this year but honestly, who do you think will do a better job at Cardiff? Because Scott won't, he's riding worse than Bomber. Cook? Well he couldn't beat an under performing, off form Chris Harris and Scott Nicholls. Scotty 19 yrs, Bomber 16 yrs, riding experience. Cooky just stated his 5th yr riding speedway. Edited May 14, 2013 by Mad Potter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 No he wasn't, Bomber was, look at the scores. Tai 15, Bomber 12 and Scott only 11. No, I'm pointing out that people are being selective. You can't chose to use last years rule of 2nd place get the GP place while ignoring old rules that 2nd highest scorer finishes 2nd. Using you your, "second top scorer hasn't meant a thing for many a year" theory, finishing 2nd place doesn't mean you qualify for the GP any more. Bomber has had chances, he's not even riding that well this year but honestly, who do you think will do a better job at Cardiff? Because Scott won't, he's riding worse than Bomber. Cook? Well he couldn't beat an under performing, off form Chris Harris and Scott Nicholls. but that's not the point, we all know they changed because the were sh!t scared Kennett won it or came 2nd to Tai. It wasn't for speedway reasons IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Scotty 18 yrs, Bomber 15 yrs, riding experience. Cooky just stated his 4th yr riding speedway. And? Ive got about 3 days riding experience and can, sometimes, slide a bike (look to the left of this post). Does that mean based on my potential I should get the British GP wildcard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 EOES wouldn't favor anyone IMO, as such a neutral race track for the majority. But with CVS in charge, will always be at Wolves. CVS is one of 5 on the management comitte and is not the chairman, so I fail to see how that puts him in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry_Bee Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Scott scored more than Bomber last year at Cardiff, has for the last 3 seasons at least finished higher on the rostrum than Harris? For you to dismiss Nicholls "SCB" is little unfair. How would you have the GP set up work then if somebody scrapes through a GP on 9 points yet ends up winning the final?? Are they not the winner?? Harris's victory in 2007 will be his greatest moment and nobody can take that away from him, it has in a way though been his nemesis !! If Harris fails to perform at Cardiff does Nicholls as second placed British finalist deserve the GP challenge wildcard?? I'd personally give it to the highest averaging British rider eligible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 but that's not the point, we all know they changed because the were sh!t scared Kennett won it or came 2nd to Tai. It wasn't for speedway reasons IMO. Seems fair to me, who actually wants to see Kennett at Cardiff? Funny thing is that last year people were moaning that Scott got the wildcard and it should have been Tai, now people are moaning that it should not have been picked but should have been the GB final rider. No other country suing it's Nation Champion, so why do we have to? No way is perfect but IMO, this way is better, if Kennett or King had fluked it then that would have been a waste of a wildcard spot IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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