stratton Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Of course it's competitive, it's the strongest league in the world. That's why all the young Poles, Danes and Swedes ride there. Were are the young Brits though? Too busy doubling-up in our semi-professional leagues. And then we wonder why there is no young talent coming through. And anyway, how is chucking them in an the deep end only for them to get annihilated in the World Cup going to help their progression? Semi professional leagues but they get paid they make a living does that not ring a bell?As for getting annihilated the old brigade of GB and the new breed they're would not be a lot of difference anyway saying that you would probably have Harris/Nicholls riding when they are 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I think the main point of all this is that Scott highlighted issues with the BSPA. Lee Richardson did a similar thing. Surely this tells us that the 'running' of Team GB is rotten to the core and if top riders are not prepared to ride for the national team then something is seriously wrong. Middlo's comments were telling. He wished Scott well but made no attempt to explain why Scott was not there. Tai has had issues with these cretins and Rob Lyons got sick of these idiots when he actually had some sort of plan to build up a strong Team GB. Simply saying the 'Lions will roar' will not give us a decent WTC team as it's patently obvious that they won't as we only have one really decent rider who we can depend on for double figures and he has only come good this season and may be going through a sticky patch by WTC time. The rest are hot and cold at best and hopeless at worst. We have a strong group to negotiate and even the most optimistic would surely not give us 2nd at best, even around Kings Lynn, without Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) I doubt he would have been picked anyhow . Good point. Better to make yourself unavailable rather than not get selected. (Did Middlo not give him the option to fall on his sword?) Edited May 11, 2013 by pugwash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Semi professional leagues but they get paid they make a living does that not ring a bell?As for getting annihilated the old brigade of GB and the new breed they're would not be a lot of difference anyway saying that you would probably have Harris/Nicholls riding when they are 50. I have no problem with them making a living, but if earning money is their first priority over the ambition of being the best possible rider they can be, then I don't think they should get a free ride into Team GB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I have no problem with them making a living, but if earning money is their first priority over the ambition of being the best possible rider they can be, then I don't think they should get a free ride into Team GB. If you asked those riders what they did, would they say they were full time speedway riders?There are not many places going abroad and if you are a double upper you will find it hard fitting meeting,s around Britain.The problem is it is not now not riding against the better opposition it is not having the grounding from a young age.Can young Brits get to practice 3/4 days a week like the Poles and other nations.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Who's to say he would have been selected on current form any way? He's probably just getting his retaliation in first for when he was dropped. This will probably be the year when we drop down to the qualifiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Found some good form lately. I will miss watching him in the gp. Still dont think there are enough strong british riders for us to do much anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Is Scott getting at the BSPA or BSI? It's not a BSPA comp after all, no skin of their nose if Scott doesn't race, just devalues the WTC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Is Scott getting at the BSPA or BSI? It's not a BSPA comp after all, no skin of their nose if Scott doesn't race, just devalues the WTC! I guess the BSPA earn money from sponsorship of TeamGB, so if top riders are missing and/or the team doesn't progress, then this reduces the value of that. BSI probably don't care either way, as GB are fifth or sixth on the rankings, so are unlikely to make the final. On the other hand, King's Lynn have presumably paid BSI for the right to host one of the qualification rounds, so Nicholls missing may reduce the crowd and therefore reduce KL's profit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I guess the BSPA earn money from sponsorship of TeamGB They could dream of such a thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 I guess the BSPA earn money from sponsorship of TeamGB, so if top riders are missing and/or the team doesn't progress, then this reduces the value of that. BSI probably don't care either way, as GB are fifth or sixth on the rankings, so are unlikely to make the final. On the other hand, King's Lynn have presumably paid BSI for the right to host one of the qualification rounds, so Nicholls missing may reduce the crowd and therefore reduce KL's profit? I haven't a clue which way it works re the WTC, do Lynn pay them or vice versa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_minall Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 I haven't a clue which way it works re the WTC, do Lynn pay them or vice versa? You would assume that the track are paid for the rental of the venue - If the track had to pay I'd imagine promoters with deeper pockets would lump the fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 You would assume that the track are paid for the rental of the venue - If the track had to pay I'd imagine promoters with deeper pockets would lump the fee. Why would you assume that. The SWC may operate in the same was as the SGP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_minall Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 Why would you assume that. The SWC may operate in the same was as the SGP I'm just thinking in terms of common sense, but then again that doesn't generally apply with speedway so I'm probably wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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