Mr Blobby Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I would leave Harris out after the whole 'i'm not riding in the WC if i don't get the Wildcard spot' nonsense! he has got what he wanted by getting the wildcard for the GP so leave him out the WC I would go with Tai Danny Cook Kennett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) On current form i think it should be Harris, Kennett, Tai and then either King or Cook (Will miss nicholls though) Edited May 9, 2013 by mdmc82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I doubt he would have been picked anyhow . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Fair point. Eddie Kennett suffered the same fate as well I believe - I saw Rosco talking about it on Twitter, he was saying how it's unfair that Hans could take part but his team mate could not. What a mess our governing body are making of our beloved sport. Those ivory towers don't look so nice nowadays. As if there isn't enough competitions to create more havoc with the fixtures of the British Elite League. I applaud their attempts to give EL fans more continuity, despite the FIM, and the desperate involvement by John Davis poking his nose in it for his self interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 As if there isn't enough competitions to create more havoc with the fixtures of the British Elite League. I applaud their attempts to give EL fans more continuity, despite the FIM, and the desperate involvement by John Davis poking his nose in it for his self interest. But Davis did make some good points, riders like Cook, Auty,Worrall,need meeting,s abroad to improve as riders and he said a lot of them were getting no help or encouragement at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Basically he pi$$ed off with the BSPA over the European championships and the Cardiff GP wildcard controversy He threw his toys out the pram then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) Sorry, haven't read this thread, so apologies (if repeating).. Read the Scott Nicholls interview in the Star and agree with everything he says, credit to him for being ever so diplomatic and restrained too ! Quite rightly he points out that the EL has been reduced from 2 x Home and 2 x Away meetings and lost the KO Cup too, the result being for riders (and supporters alike) is a reduction from 40+ meetings per season to 28 - which obviously costs the riders financially ! This probably explains Ed Kennett's temp move to Berwick (mad given his this season's EL average). Anyway back to Scott and the fact that British riders are not allowed to compete in the (UEM ?) meeting whilst Hans and others are allowed to 'line their pockets' . The BSPA should be supporting British riders like Scott (and #Rico) and allow them to make a living whilst 'encouraging' such riders to represent (England) Team GB at international level, rather than doing the opposite. Sadly speedway in the UK seems to exist despite (rather than because of) the efforts of the BSPA .. Edited May 9, 2013 by yerropes 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I dont see how you can leave Danny King out of the World Cup team, he has been in great form this year and has only had one bad meeting. Will probably go to to number 1 in this Brummies side soon. Harris is not riding great at the minute, he is trying but doesnt always have the speed and is having bike trouble a fair bit. Craig Cook deserves a chance as hes been excellent when Ive seen him and Kennett looks totally transformed with his move to Swindon. I would go for: Woffy King Kennett Cook That seems an obvious choice, and based off some of SN performances this season, would he be missed from that team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 It's funny, most people bemoan Terry Russell owning the TV rights to British speedway, but I wonder if the BSPA (or whoever) sold the rights to TeamGB, whether someone would make a better hand at getting sponsorship, encouraging the top riders and eventually being more successful on the track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Are people really suggesting Kennett? Honestly Have any of you ever seen him against top riders? Look at his SWC and GP record,, look at what eh has done (or not done!) in Sweden and Poland. Look at his record in heat 15 in the EL. Ed Kennett is not the answer, especially as we're writing off this season and building. Go with Woffy as the experienced rider then go with Cook (althougth oldish, he's improving at an impressive late and is a late starter), Worrall and what the hell, Garrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 He Beat Greg Hancock at Cardiff once you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Sorry, haven't read this thread, so apologies (if repeating).. Read the Scott Nicholls interview in the Star and agree with everything he says, credit to him for being ever so diplomatic and restrained too ! Quite rightly he points out that the EL has been reduced from 2 x Home and 2 x Away meetings and lost the KO Cup too, the result being for riders (and supporters alike) is a reduction from 40+ meetings per season to 28 - which obviously costs the riders financially ! This probably explains Ed Kennett's temp move to Berwick (mad given his this season's EL average). Anyway back to Scott and the fact that British riders are not allowed to compete in the (UEM ?) meeting whilst Hans and others are allowed to 'line their pockets' . The BSPA should be supporting British riders like Scott (and #Rico) and allow them to make a living whilst 'encouraging' such riders to represent (England) Team GB at international level, rather than doing the opposite. Sadly speedway in the UK seems to exist despite (rather than because of) the efforts of the BSPA .. Damn right. We should allow our homegrown riders EVERY opportunity to earn a living as the powers that be seem to do little or nothing to get them support so it should not be expected that they can't ride wherever they get an opportunity to make some money. No wonder the sport is on it's belly here in the Uk with these idiots in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_minall Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Are people really suggesting Kennett? Honestly Have any of you ever seen him against top riders? Look at his SWC and GP record,, look at what eh has done (or not done!) in Sweden and Poland. Look at his record in heat 15 in the EL. Ed Kennett is not the answer, especially as we're writing off this season and building. Go with Woffy as the experienced rider then go with Cook (althougth oldish, he's improving at an impressive late and is a late starter), Worrall and what the hell, Garrity. Kennet's been in the form of his life since he moved to Swindon - his average over 2013 so far is over 9 points a meeting - Harris is struggling to hit 7! That should speak for itself considering that the first round will be in Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Woffinden, Harris, Kennett and King are all in better form than Scott anyway. Cook is a possibility but would be better off getting some international experience first. Garrity, Howath, Worrall should form the basis of an u21 team, if that event still exists? (I am guessing Worrall is the right age?). Otherwise the BSPA should invest in sending them to Denmark, Poland etc to race against representative sides from those countries. I know they would lose but at least they would get some experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Woffinden, Harris, Kennett and King are all in better form than Scott anyway. Cook is a possibility but would be better off getting some international experience first. Garrity, Howath, Worrall should form the basis of an u21 team, if that event still exists? (I am guessing Worrall is the right age?). Otherwise the BSPA should invest in sending them to Denmark, Poland etc to race against representative sides from those countries. I know they would lose but at least they would get some experience. Are you in reality? Cook would be second best at worst, I like Kennett,King,Barker but they have had chances.Cook ,Auty,Worrall,Garrty (ect) have not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Read the Scott Nicholls interview in the Star and agree with everything he says, credit to him for being ever so diplomatic and restrained too ! Worth mentioning because of the lack of top flight meetings in Sweden. The likes of Jonsson and Lindback ride in the Swedish second tier to help with the bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Are you in reality? Cook would be second best at worst, I like Kennett,King,Barker but they have had chances.Cook ,Auty,Worrall,Garrty (ect) have not. Am I in reality? You are going to throw Garrity, a first year PL rider in and expect him to score any ponts? Worrall and Auty? They are a long way off world team cup class. Just letting them loose to trail in 50 yards behind is not giving them experience, it is demoralising them. We aren't talking Lee, Carter or Collins here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Are you in reality? Cook would be second best at worst, I like Kennett,King,Barker but they have had chances.Cook ,Auty,Worrall,Garrty (ect) have not. The World Cup should be able your four best riders. If Cook, Auty, Worrall and Garrity want experience then they should sign for Polish and Swedish teams, like the young Poles, Danes and Swedes do. That is the real reason we are miles behind on an international stage. British riders are lazy and/or lack ambition. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) The World Cup should be able your four best riders. If Cook, Auty, Worrall and Garrity want experience then they should sign for Polish and Swedish teams, like the young Poles, Danes and Swedes do. That is the real reason we are miles behind on an international stage. British riders are lazy and/or lack ambition. Are you in cookoo land or what? total rubbish it is not quite as easy to get places like that in Poland ect) it is very competetive .Cook ,Auty both of them did over 80 meeting,s last season they were hardly lazy Ritchie got injured up untill then he had been very busy.The statement you made is total crap our English lads need encouragement and help Garrity,Ellis, Jacob,s Howarth we have a few who need help.Not surprised because you are hardly keen on Birks who again is talented and he has only had 2 home meeting,s at Swindon and you were moaning. Am I in reality? You are going to throw Garrity, a first year PL rider in and expect him to score any ponts? Worrall and Auty? They are a long way off world team cup class. Just letting them loose to trail in 50 yards behind is not giving them experience, it is demoralising them. We aren't talking Lee, Carter or Collins here! I have never ever mentioned Garrity as a starter but some of the riders with experience Harris,King,Barker, Kennett,, are not much better if at all than the ones you mentioned.Do you want to stick with Harris,Nicholls, ect) forever? you have got to rebuild sometime.As for Lee,Collins,Carter those days are long gone. Edited May 10, 2013 by sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Are you in cookoo land or what? total rubbish it is not quite as easy to get places like that in Poland ect) it is very competetive .Cook ,Auty both of them did over 80 meeting,s last season they were hardly lazy Ritchie got injured up untill then he had been very busy.The statement you made is total crap our English lads need encouragement and help Garrity,Ellis, Jacob,s Howarth we have a few who need help.Not surprised because you are hardly keen on Birks who again is talented and he has only had 2 home meeting,s at Swindon and you were moaning. Of course it's competitive, it's the strongest league in the world. That's why all the young Poles, Danes and Swedes ride there. Were are the young Brits though? Too busy doubling-up in our semi-professional leagues. And then we wonder why there is no young talent coming through. And anyway, how is chucking them in an the deep end only for them to get annihilated in the World Cup going to help their progression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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