Buttons Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 You couldn't make it up, is it any wonder many fans are losing interest in Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 On the other hand it seems rather odd that Tyson Nelson should only check on Friday, presumably the date he would set off for the meeting in Ukraine the next day, to check if his visa was available? I know from experience of travel involving the Ukraine and Russia that visas are usually available well before travel dates. Nothing seems odd where that young lad is concerned Len said he only found out Nelson could not ride 20 mins before the start time. What would of happened if it had been a 7pm start ? You couldn't make it up, is it any wonder many fans are losing interest in Speedway. The link provides the full report of the match and a Rye House comment on Tyson Nelson and his failure to travel to the Ukraine. http://www.ryehouserockets.co/news.php?extend.569.1 five man Silver Ski Rockets team – hit by the last minute suspension of Tyson Nelson – beat both the odds and the weather with a remarkable 52-38 result in the first leg of the Knock-Out Cup Quarter-Final tie against Sheffield. Following the non-arrival of the necessary visa clearance, Nelson was forced to cancel his trip to the Ukraine to compete in a World U-21 Qualifier the same day as this tie, and was busy warming up his bike in the Hoddesdon pits when word arrived that the FIM had banned him for two days – Saturday and Sunday - for his non-arrival in Chervonograd. If ignored, the suspension would be extended to the rest of the season. The Silver Ski Rockets were able to cover for the Australian’s enforced absence at virtually zero notice with Rider-Replacement, but having originally planned this facility for the injured Jason Bunyan in the No.2 position, had to leave a blank for the latter’s riding slot, with three of Bunyan’s programmed rides left unmanned and the other filled by a reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rteyp Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Well done and great effort from our 5, glad that those that made it had some decent racing toward the end as the track died out. Thanks Shadders for the tweets - helped me make it through the wedding. One more wedding to go and then no obsticles other than Holidays to interrupt my speedway attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Thanks Shadders for the tweets Wasn't me mate, I didn't go. To say I'm pissed off to miss is an understatement. I'm sure this was a free Saturday when I booked my kids train tickets to come and visit. They didn't wanna go last night, so I was stuck indoors. I'll have to get my speedway fix at Sheffield on Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 A couple of further thoughts on Tyson Nelson's visa problems - (1) Had he left the United Kingdom for the Ukraine would he have had a problem when seeking re-entry to the UK after what happened in 2012? (2) How did the FIM know he might be engaged in UK speedway meetings at the time when the WU21 meeting was taking place in Chevnograd? Their ban seems to have been rather swiftly implemented. (3) Will he get visa clearance to go to Sheffield on Thursday? (Joke!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) A couple of further thoughts on Tyson Nelson's visa problems - (1) Had he left the United Kingdom for the Ukraine would he have had a problem when seeking re-entry to the UK after what happened in 2012? (2) How did the FIM know he might be engaged in UK speedway meetings at the time when the WU21 meeting was taking place in Chevnograd? Their ban seems to have been rather swiftly implemented. (3) Will he get visa clearance to go to Sheffield on Thursday? (Joke!!) The FIM action seems a little bit knee jerk on the surface, but I suspect they were monitoring the situation in the Ukraine and informed the BSPA as soon as it was clear Tyson was still in the UK. Either Silver was trying to pull a fast one and was found out, or the BSPA have got it spectacularly wrong. To add insult to injury, Rye House have been hit with a fine for fielding an understrength team, even though they won on the night, something Glasgow escaped on their recent visit to Hoddesdon. Edited May 12, 2013 by Shadders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolly Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 If Rye get hit with an understrength team fine and win the match, then Sheffields team was obviously weaker than ours and should also receive an understrength fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 If Rye get hit with an understrength team fine and win the match, then Sheffields team was obviously weaker than ours and should also receive an understrength fine Now I know why MIldenhall went out of business after the 2007 season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Stummings Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Well I think the whole thing stinks! The man at the upper end of the BSPA is a certain Sheffield Official, who was at Rye last night, bet he was on the phone to the other cronies who run the sport in the UK stirring it up as well. Sheffield should have wiped the floor with Rye last night, boy oh boy they were awful. It's about time the sport had a independent body running it. Lovely quote I've read on facebook Speedway! In 2013 British Speedway is run by a bunch of clowns, yet again who suffers? Yes you've guessed it, the paying public, well the few at rye house who've bothered to turn up. I really do fear for the future of my beloved sport, time for a massive change at the top in Rugby or bye bye Speedway... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Well I think the whole thing stinks! The man at the upper end of the BSPA is a certain Sheffield Official, who was at Rye last night, bet he was on the phone to the other cronies who run the sport in the UK stirring it up as well. This is the same clown who changed the PL reserve rules mid season in 2006 when MIildenhall and Rye House (Jon Armstrong & Steve Boxall) were benefitting from the rule and Sheffield weren't... The whole BSPA smacks of self interest... Bunch of self serving pea brained idiots (Trying not to swear) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketbee Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) This once again shows the folly of not naming a 'additional rider' or no8 in old money when you are running r/r. Had len chosen to use one of the young kent king's as a no8 they could at least have stepped in at no2 and may even have beaten one of sheffield bottom 3 riders. Edited May 12, 2013 by Rocketbee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Well I think the whole thing stinks! The man at the upper end of the BSPA is a certain Sheffield Official, who was at Rye last night, bet he was on the phone to the other cronies who run the sport in the UK stirring it up as well. Sheffield should have wiped the floor with Rye last night, boy oh boy they were awful. It's about time the sport had a independent body running it. Lovely quote I've read on facebook Bang on correct. That certain bloke from Sheffield had a massive grin on his mug when silver announced what had happened. No way would the FIM monitor or have the slightest interest in Rye House, my take on it was that it was mismanaged by Len, the dirty shameful tactics then came from Sheffield. What really annoys me who ever was at fault is to a degree irrelevent as it was the paying public who were again shafted having to watch three three man races shen we should be watching four iders. As for the racing it was excellent quickly following on from the handicap meeting. Wells apart Sheffield were shocking, quite how Simon Stead can hold his head up high after that performance i will never know, he was better than that when riding for Kings Lynn. Ok so thursday he will only have to turn up to get his max but he short changed the few Sheffield fans who had travelled. Speedway! In 2013 British Speedway is run by a bunch of clowns, yet again who suffers? Yes you've guessed it, the paying public, well the few at rye house who've bothered to turn up. I really do fear for the future of my beloved sport, time for a massive change at the top in Rugby or bye bye Speedway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) This once again shows the folly of not naming a 'additional rider' or no8 in old money when you are running r/r. Had len chosen to use one of the young kent king's as a no8 they could at least have stepped in at no2 and may even have beaten one of sheffield bottom 3 riders. I can never understand why we don't name a number 8 for home matches. More than likely to be cost. What if Olly Allen had fallen or had an engine failure in either of the three heats he was in alone? Even a point lost could be the difference between qualifying for the next round or not. There are usually a couple of Kent riders doing a few laps in the second half at Rye. Edited May 12, 2013 by Shadders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 This once again shows the folly of not naming a 'additional rider' or no8 in old money when you are running r/r. Had len chosen to use one of the young kent king's as a no8 they could at least have stepped in at no2 and may even have beaten one of sheffield bottom 3 riders. I'm sure it was in rules at one time that a team had to nominate a No8 when operating R/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harman Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Team boss David Hoggart was both proud and disappointed by his team’s efforts; “Rye House are a team of track specialists and they’re very good riders, I didn’t think we were awful but they were simply better than us. :blink: Beaten by team of 4 plus 1 nl rider??????? how can you be proud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Team boss David Hoggart was both proud and disappointed by his team’s efforts; “Rye House are a team of track specialists and they’re very good riders, I didn’t think we were awful but they were simply better than us. :blink: Beaten by team of 4 plus 1 nl rider??????? how can you be proud? All waffle, what else could he say? Stead will be a different rider round Owlerton, but any extra points he gains will be negated by Wells who surely won't match last nights score. A lot will rest on whether Hall rides or not and if the Tigers reserves can score any meaningful points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) If Rye get hit with an understrength team fine and win the match, then Sheffields team was obviously weaker than ours and should also receive an understrength fine I think you will find understrength is in regard to the NUMBER of riders available for the match not on the standard of riders in a full team provided they are the best available on the day. Rye House could only provide FIVE riders for a SEVEN rider team. Edited May 12, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolly Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I think you will find understrength is in regard to the NUMBER of riders available for the match not on the standard of riders in a full team provided they are the best available on the day. Rye House could only provide FIVE riders for a SEVEN rider team. It was a joke, hence the smiley at the end of the post. So what the BSPA fined was an under number team not an understrength team ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 When R/R relies on a 2 reserve rides you should always be naming a number 8 home and away. If we had last night we could have moved him into the team as a NL guest which we were permitted to use in place of Nelson. Three races with any rider is better than three with none, especially as a half decent number 8 would have been better than Sheffield's offering at reserve. I do feel for the promotion over the way it was handled by the FIM/SCB and with the ban. Hope it is successfully appealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 When R/R relies on a 2 reserve rides you should always be naming a number 8 home and away. If we had last night we could have moved him into the team as a NL guest which we were permitted to use in place of Nelson. Three races with any rider is better than three with none, especially as a half decent number 8 would have been better than Sheffield's offering at reserve. I do feel for the promotion over the way it was handled by the FIM/SCB and with the ban. Hope it is successfully appealed. When Rye House had notice of the visa refusal for Tyson Nelson they should then have sought clearance to use him against Sheffield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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