Fromafar Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Think if that's what he's saying and how he's feeling the best thing he could is step aside and let someone else do it N.b Just read these comments and it would seem that Alex is putting his point across in a constructive manner to which he is getting the same constructive feedback from the fans It appears he has now removed these comments.Sound advice from someone I think ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 You sure his average is that high? Riding to his average of 4.36 according to this: http://www.speedwaygb.co/issues13/pl13_dec_7.pdf If you look at these averages it would suggest that perhaps building a team 1 pt below the limit, plus Ricky's run of bad luck, is where the results lie. All of the riders are either at or above their starting averages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Riding to his average of 4.36 according to this: http://www.speedwaygb.co/issues13/pl13_dec_7.pdf If you look at these averages it would suggest that perhaps building a team 1 pt below the limit, plus Ricky's run of bad luck, is where the results lie. All of the riders are either at or above their starting averages. Thats rolling averages. His 2013 average alone is below 4.00 a meeting, or was last time i looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 It appears he has now removed these comments.Sound advice from someone I think ! So the keyboard commandos get to air their views - and in some cases personal attacks - but the riders can't put their views across? Hmmmmmm... We are not at war with Eurasia... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 So the keyboard commandos get to air their views - and in some cases personal attacks - but the riders can't put their views across? Hmmmmmm... We are not at war with Eurasia... In fairness its the same in any sport, you have fans unhappy with certain peoples performances and have to expect them to air their views. The berwick track is reportedly better than ever now though - so its a bit of an insult to the promotion for a three point reserve to start slagging the track off. I think it would be best for all concerned at berwick if edberg was to be released... He cant keep blaming his scores on the track. Its been roughly the same ever since it opened has it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Bellego is a cracking pospect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 In fairness its the same in any sport, you have fans unhappy with certain peoples performances and have to expect them to air their views. The berwick track is reportedly better than ever now though - so its a bit of an insult to the promotion for a three point reserve to start slagging the track off. I think it would be best for all concerned at berwick if edberg was to be released... He cant keep blaming his scores on the track. Its been roughly the same ever since it opened has it not? But, he wasn't slagging-off the track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 has the same basic shape as Berwick and has been used for world finals / GPs for years has Edberg rode it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 has Edberg rode it? not unless he joined the grand prix circus without us knowing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 But, he wasn't slagging-off the track. What was he doing then? From the comments ive read here, it seems he was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 What a great, constructive reply. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 What was he doing then? From the comments ive read here, it seems he was Nope. I'm not going to quote it as he choose to leave the group, hence the post has gone. Not my place to do that. All I would say is that if some soi disant fans put as much effort into supporting their team as they do firing off a load of bull on the Internet, then things would be a lot better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 He has been moaning about the track, wrong size and all that nonsense... He did it last week and done it this season, did he make the same comments when he posted high scores last season? The problem is clearly not the track - away teams certainly seem able to ride it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 I think what he was saying - and I might have interpreted it wrongly - is that the current equipment and the Berwick track do not work together very well. For example, the bikes are so fast around a large track, also the bikes are not as easy to control when going out into the dirt due to the effects of the new silencers. Racing has very clearly changed over the past two years, and there is more and more discussion about equipment being a factor, rather than tracks and riders. He also pointed out that GP riders have a completely different level of resources available to them in terms of equipment. It was actually quite a good discussion and a few people put constructive questions to him which he answered. It shows you, though, just how destructive a few idiots can be on the Internet. What it did, for me, was give me a bit of insight into why the racing has been so disappointing. That gives me confidence that it will get fixed at some point, although the powers that be are the ones who have to initiate it. I keep going back to the great racing during 2005 that I have been watching recently. However, the times were 67 - 68 seconds compared to 64 - 65 seconds a heat. You have to be going some lick to come from behind nowadays. I hope that goes some way to tempering the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Very fair point eddie but it leaves my earlier question unanswered - how come away riders find it easy enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBSCENESPEEDWAY Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 If Edberg decides to leave berwick it will only be down to the lack of support & constant sniping from the small minority of so called "fans", which would be f***ing disgusting all the same i wouldnt blame him though nobody should have to put up with it, he is a reserve with a 4 point average hes not Tomasz Gollob FFS, there are other riders underperforming at Berwick not just him!!! Good to know the riders of Berwick Bandits can count on the support of there fans when they are going through tough times 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Very fair point eddie but it leaves my earlier question unanswered - how come away riders find it easy enough? Yep, I didn't answer that one, it's because they are getting out of the gate first. I think Alex's point was it is quite difficult to come from behind at the moment. What a lot of people have missed are his other comments that he is always pushing to improve himself. Some people on here are going to get what they wished for, then realise it wasn't actually what they wanted after all... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) Yep, I didn't answer that one, it's because they are getting out of the gate first. I think Alex's point was it is quite difficult to come from behind at the moment. What a lot of people have missed are his other comments that he is always pushing to improve himself. Some people on here are going to get what they wished for, then realise it wasn't actually what they wanted after all... It's all rather juvenile, the sad fact is loyal fans are walking away and it will be a battle to get them back Edited May 5, 2013 by RobinH88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 It's all rather juvenile, the sad fact is loyal fans are walking away and it will be a battle to get them back What is juvenile? You mean the crap posted on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember06 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 So the keyboard commandos get to air their views - and in some cases personal attacks - but the riders can't put their views across? Hmmmmmm... We are not at war with Eurasia... Eurasia? Are they still on the go? ......ill get me coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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