Chris Harris Cardiff Wild Card

[oldace]

He is saying if these guys never get a chance how will we ever know? i like Harris but i am the opposite he should have to earn it i would rather give Cook a chance and score zero oh no i better bow down because you have all the answers.

 

Everyone is bogged down in "who deserves it" or "earned" it. It is a wildcard, there isn't, and never has been a qualifying process. It is entirely the organisers choice. Recently they have used the British Final to determine the Cardiff place, but there is no obligation to do so.

[SPEEDY69]

I don't think the BSI selection devalued the British Championship itself but it did remove one key item of interest for both riders and fans - who will get the wildcard for Cardiff. I wasn't that interested in the meeting simply because Tai was always going to win and I couldn't care less who was 2nd/3rd etc.

[BWitcher]

He is saying if these guys never get a chance how will we ever know? i like Harris but i am the opposite he should have to earn it i would rather give Cook a chance and score zero oh no i better bow down because you have all the answers.

 

They just had another chance to prove themselves. They failed.

[iris123]

As it is they are all very much a muchness.Doubt anyone could say with conviction that one rider would do better than another out of the top 4 or 5 Brits.But i can't see Harris bringing in any more fans than any of the others.What does make me think on this situation is why this was done.Tend to think a number of things are all linked together and this was done to get at some people.Wouldn't at all be surprised if say Eursport get the contract to show British league speedway and want the British Final to be linked to the British wildcard,then quick as a flash,next year it will be all change again.And as for attendances,i think you will have to look over a period of 3 or 5 years to see how this decision has affected the final.It all seemed to leak out quite late

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2013 by iris123

[Gavan]

In my mind Cook Worrall Auty are not going to be any better than the level that Kennett King are at now and what Stead and Howe were at 5 years ago. It is my opinion but I don't think they will make true Grand Prix riders like Nicholls and Harris were.

[topaz325]

In my mind Cook Worrall Auty are not going to be any better than the level that Kennett King are at now and what Stead and Howe were at 5 years ago. It is my opinion but I don't think they will make true Grand Prix riders like Nicholls and Harris were.

 

Unfortunatley i agree...

[Mark]

In my mind Cook Worrall Auty are not going to be any better than the level that Kennett King are at now and what Stead and Howe were at 5 years ago. It is my opinion but I don't think they will make true Grand Prix riders like Nicholls and Harris were.

 

so do I but Cook might prove us all wrong as he looks better than the rest with such limited experience.

[PHILIPRISING]

ONE seasoned campaigner told me the other day that Cook has lots of potential but needs to stop riding like a moto-crosser and more like a speedway rider. Suggested he spent his time at the Cardiff practice watching Hancock and Gollob. Sound advice...

[The Know]

ONE seasoned campaigner told me the other day that Cook has lots of potential but needs to stop riding like a moto-crosser and more like a speedway rider. Suggested he spent his time at the Cardiff practice watching Hancock and Gollob. Sound advice...

 

I believe Cook should be the wild card, would do the lad a world of good and the way he is gating could of picked up a fair few points. As a moto crosser for some 38 years i can say he does not ride like one at all on a speedway bike ! All speedway riders i know are pretty poor on a motocrosser and certainly cant jump for a toffee.

Give the lad a chance, has to be better than a serial failure who has no chance of ever making in the gp series, past present or future.

 

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but what with all the discussion/squabbling over Bombers wild card it appears to have missed everyone that, whilst he has qualified on merit, Ales Dryml will be replacing Darcy at Cardiff.

 

Must admit, I was umming and arring about going to Cardiff, but this has confirmed my decision to go. The excitement of witnessing an at best 'Elite League' reserve flying around at the back is just too much not to be seen

 

Just as well give the place to the hot dog seller ! The Dribbles are both well past there sell by date.

[Hunty]

Harris should do the decent thing and give it to Nicholls, Simple as that!

[PHILIPRISING]

I believe Cook should be the wild card, would do the lad a world of good and the way he is gating could of picked up a fair few points. As a moto crosser for some 38 years i can say he does not ride like one at all on a speedway bike ! All speedway riders i know are pretty poor on a motocrosser and certainly cant jump for a toffee.

Give the lad a chance, has to be better than a serial failure who has no chance of ever making in the gp series, past present or future.

 

ARE you sure? I'm told by some who certainly know what they are talking about that Darcy Ward is sensational on a moto-cross bike. Holder, too. Woffinden, Gollob and a lot more as well.

 

But the comment was that Cook needs to ride less like a moto-crosser and more like a speedway rider. Also, not sure you can compare his gating prowess against what he would come up against at Cardiff. One wild card appearance wont enhance his career but looking and learning just might.

 

 

 

 

 

Just as well give the place to the hot dog seller ! The Dribbles are both well past there sell by date.

[iris123]

Well we could ask what did all those appearances in the GPs over the past couple of years do for Harris.maybe he is the one who should have been looking and learning? That in a sense is the problem with the system or our system.We didn't honestly have a GP standard rider so Chris was the one who was always being thrown to the lions.He probably wanted it and thought he could make it,but it became clear to most it was doing him more harm than good.Same really with Scott before him.Rather than taking some time out they got punch drunk

All done now anyway......but if Darcy is out for too long poor old Dryml ends up in the nightmare situation he was warning about before the season started with fixture clashes.......

Edited May 16, 2013 by iris123

[New Science]

Everyone is bogged down in "who deserves it" or "earned" it. It is a wildcard, there isn't, and never has been a qualifying process. It is entirely the organisers choice. Recently they have used the British Final to determine the Cardiff place, but there is no obligation to do so.

It seems the selection of Chris Harris as wild card was on a need to know basis.The people who didn't need to know were 1, the riders, as some may have declined to ride in the semi finals(a BSPA fundraiser as Scott Nicholls puts it),2 the fans (most who think it takes away something away from the meeting)and 3 the national team manager who should have been consulted but was in the dark like the rest of us.If this decision was taken last October then it should have been communicated but wasn't until the week before the final to limit the fallout of what was an unpopular decision all round.BSPA havn,t come out of this in a great light Edited May 16, 2013 by New Science

[racers and royals]

It seems the selection of Chris Harris as wild card was on a need to know basis.The people who didn't need to know were 1, the riders, as some may have declined to ride in the semi finals(a BSPA fundraiser as Scott Nicholls puts it),2 the fans (most who think it takes away something away from the meeting)and 3 the national team manager who should have been consulted but was in the dark like the rest of us.If this decision was taken last October then it should have been communicated but wasn't until the week before the final to limit the fallout of what was an unpopular decision all round.BSPA havn,t come out of this in a great light

Not really important but it was announced 2 weeks before the final on April 30th.

[Starman2006]

'Rubblish' says Starman.

 

So you are claiming Cook, Warrell, Garrity etc are better riders at this point than Chris Harris?

 

Definately not. But i think its totally wrong, that Harris is given the Wildcard, and the runner up behind Tai at Wolves doesn't go to Cardiff, another balls up by the powers that be.. Becoming British Champion is one thing, but the biggest Carrot must be a place at Cardiff..

[oldace]

Definately not. But i think its totally wrong, that Harris is given the Wildcard, and the runner up behind Tai at Wolves doesn't go to Cardiff, another balls up by the powers that be.. Becoming British Champion is one thing, but the biggest Carrot must be a place at Cardiff..

 

Have you not understood anything that has been written. The "powers that be" have no say in the wildcard rider. It is in effect at the sole discretion of the GP promoter, in this case BSI.

[stratton]

It's like England having a game at Wembley with the FA having absolute no say whatsoever madness.

[PHILIPRISING]

It's like England having a game at Wembley with the FA having absolute no say whatsoever madness.

 

NO quite ... it's like England having a game at Wembley and the Premier League having no say whatsoever

[The Know]

 

Yes i am sure. I said most speedway riders i know are rubbish on a motocrosser. Indeed gollob is good, as was chris louis and kris ceilgeski with whom i rode. But yours and my opinoin and your man in the know may differ. I know a good rider when i see one regardless of any type of bike being riden.

Cook does not ride like a moto crosser in my opinion and who ever says he does is taliking bull.

He would also learn far more by riding at cardiff than watching which will teach him nothing. Harris will learn nothing as he hasnt in the past, just needs to learn he is not gp standard anymore.

 

On a side note, i may be 51 but i will give ward and holder a run for their money on a 125 smoker any day of the week. Well maybe lol.

[Coventry_Bee]

Lets hope bomber gets that engine back of Smolinski before Cardiff. His form is a serious problem, huge banana skin now for both BSI and bomber as if you are averaging just above 6 on this seasons scores in our EL what's he going to do against Lindback, Gollob, Hancock , Emil ?? Hope I am proved wrong but on this form where is he going to score a point??