Daniel Smith Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Brock, turn it around again under those circumstances but Poole were at home. What do you think Fat Mord would have done. I believe Belle Vue were wrong how they went about it. It was completely absurd. But I couldn't imagine turning up to a Lynn home meeting with only 4 riders on show. I know I'd be gutted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 (edited) This is a silly situation, BV should be fined and handed a points deduction, Zagar and Zetterstrom should not be allowed to ride in the re-run and no facilities should be given. Put down a marker so other clubs don't try and do the same thing! Edited May 5, 2013 by Jepsen Jensen Fan Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 It is true, I was pissed off that the meeting had been postponed and I jumped to the same irrational conclusion you lot did. Having slept on it and read the official statements I'm prepared to accept the apology. However, should damming evidence be revealed (not some unreliable random bloke 'tweeting' garbage) then I stand by my original post and the sanction should be a minimum 6 month licence suspension. If that means the season has finished for Belle Vue so be it. I would think that the damning evidence was produced by the attending referee, otherwise there wouldn't need to be an enquiry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 What on earth are you doing trying to engage in a debate with this DAC wally. Has he not demonstrated time and again sub normal intelligence and no grasp of reality, happy to believe everything fed to him by Morton and Gordon. Fortunately he is in a minority and even the other usual suspects have either remained quiet or condemned what went on. That's great coming from oldace, head of Mensa for East Manchester 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Totally agree its getting very boring now. Oh, I don't know! It's quite entertaining to see someone try and defend it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 That seems to be the main difficulty in working out a punishment that hurts the promotion but doesn't hurt the fans. If the match is re-staged with a full squad the BV promotion have achieved what they set out to do, if the match is awarded to Poole its the genuine BV fans that suffer. Exactly the point I made the other day. The whole scenario was invented because the Aces knew Poole would take all 4 points if the match went ahead with the riders available. If Belle Vue are allowed to re run the match and the points gained are the difference between play offs or not then they have succeeded in what they wanted. In the interests of fair play the 4 points should go to Poole and season ticket holders should get a pro rata refund. If that doesn't happen expect a few more burst water mains if a team is struggling for riders ahead of important matches 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 If that doesn't happen expect a few more burst water mains if a team is struggling for riders ahead of important matches Or animals chewing power cables, rain on the way, or broken floodlights, or bad weather preceding the event etc, etc, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 This is a silly situation, BV should be fined and handed a points deduction, Zagar and Zetterstrom should not be allowed to ride in the re-run and no facilities should be given. Put down a marker so other clubs don't try and do the same thing! Understand what you say but if BV are punished with a points deduction and ive no problem if thats the outcome to then rerun the match with half a team and no facilities given would mean running to an empty stadium and the loss of revenue could therefore be seen as punishing the club twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Understand what you say but if BV are punished with a points deduction and ive no problem if thats the outcome to then rerun the match with half a team and no facilities given would mean running to an empty stadium and the loss of revenue could therefore be seen as punishing the club twice. They've made their bed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Understand what you say but if BV are punished with a points deduction and ive no problem if thats the outcome to then rerun the match with half a team and no facilities given would mean running to an empty stadium and the loss of revenue could therefore be seen as punishing the club twice. There lucky that they are not compensating Poole fans for petrol and travel costs, If a Poole fan decided to sue the BV promotion then no doubt they would win if the investigation finds out that the meeting was called off wrongly by the Aces promotion. Also Belle Vue should be stripped off holding any BSPA/SWC events for the next 5 years and that includes there "proposed" new stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luluthetiger Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Also Belle Vue should be stripped off holding any BSPA/SWC events for the next 5 years and that includes there "proposed" new stadium. I can't think the FIM tracks in the UK (currently Poole, King's Lynn, Berwick and maybe Coventry, I think) are too worried about losing out to a new BV stadium being erected. Edited May 7, 2013 by luluthetiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 It seems there will be no action against belle Vue That's what I've heard anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little-End Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 It seems there will be no action against belle Vue That's what I've heard anyway Its in tonights Evening News ............... no action being taken. Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kester Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 It seems there will be no action against belle Vue That's what I've heard anyway NO WAY! I am utterly shocked to the core if this is the outcome. Note to promoters - You've now got the green light - Have some of your riders missed a flight? weakened team at home? destined for a home loss? No worries - get the bowser out and call it off - you can be confident the BSPA will do jack all about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Its in tonights Evening News ............... no action being taken. Lucky If that is the case then its a bleedin joke, how much lower can speedway and the powers that be stoop, they BV admitted they were wrong to call off the meeting, that is as good as admitting Liabillity. Im very sure they will get a good reception when they come to poole..... Not.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 What a joke! Should at least get a fine! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Standard judgement and the one we were all expecting . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Not seen the article or judgement yet, surprised though if there's no sanction against the Aces - even if only a token slap on the wrist, as no action if any wrongdoing found may set a pretty ropey precident. Unless the Aces had genuine grounds for calling it off of course? Or maybe the decision could suggest more about the state of top level speedway in the UK - and the fact that (like it or lump it) it relies on riders commuting in from Europe - & if the odd meeting bites the dust due to rider availability, then thats the reality the sport faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 What a p take BV should get fined and a stern talking to absolute joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmiler Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 That's disgusting, they should've been fined or deducted points at the very least. Ridiculous decision. If this was Swindon, Poole or Coventry, action would've been taken immediately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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