TheReturn Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Just catching up on this, I was wortking up North this week and I was in Manchester Monday and Tuesday, and I arrived to farily warm and clear sky's mid afternoon and it certainly did not look like there had been heavy rain in central Manchester anytime in the preceeding hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) The realisation that they would have to track a depleted team led to the 'wrong decision' being made and, knowing they would not get approval to call off a meeting for such reasons, an 'excuse' was formulated and this has backfired spectacularly. Yes, they were between a rock and a hard place vis-a-vis proceeding with a severely weakened team (and all the oprium that would bring from the paying public) and trying to manufacture what would appear to be a genuine reason for the cancellation. The only issue now is the sanction to be applied. Edited May 1, 2013 by TonyE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) A points deduction and all the Poole fans who traveled should be compensated fully for their travel, petrol and accommodation. Along with the Poole side have their flights paid for and again, There travel costs and accommodation covered. That would be open to people lying saying they had driven north. Best I think Belle Vue can do for fans is offer free admission to any Poole fan making the trip north next time, to make it managable for BV, should Poole agree is that any Poole fan wanting to take this up have to apply via the Poole Speedway office. Edited May 1, 2013 by TheReturn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) How many times can you apologise before the the word "sorry" loses its impact? Edited May 1, 2013 by moxey63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 That would bankrupt the club. They officially have no money anyway. According to the last set of accounts filed by Belle Vue Speedway in November 2011 they has £0 cash at bank, liabilities of £486,271, a net worth of -£447,167, and assets worth £6296. However having postponed the meeting for whatever reason they will still now have to pay for Poole's flights etc, for the re-arranged fixture, that would be the case even if it was a rain-off. The cost of the cancellation and re-arranging the fixture will probably set BV back about £10,000 which is pretty small beer in the context of the season and a fair chunk of that can be made up in gate money if they continue in good form and look in the frame for the play-offs, so in the grand scheme of things it hasn't really cost them a lot of money, that is why any SCB fine needs to be heavy and include a points deduction. Otherwise it will give the green light to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 That 'apology' is more of a farce than the call off itself. It says absolutely nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) It seems like they're trying to find a way out of it, without actually saying we made it all up. Edited May 1, 2013 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Wow so they admitted they cheated ..how on earth can these people be allowed to stay in the sport ? it's not just error of judgement they have gone to the trouble of pouring water on the track to back there story up and lied to everyone ...only in speedway would they not be faceing long bans ....how can anyone trust these guys ever again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Just wait now for the usual Belle Vue fans to come on here and defend their club. Should be a good laugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Wow so they admitted they cheated ..how on earth can these people be allowed to stay in the sport ? it's not just error of judgement they have gone to the trouble of pouring water on the track to back there story up and lied to everyone ...only in speedway would they not be faceing long bans ....how can anyone trust these guys ever again ? Sad state of affairs that if you got rid of everyone who you can't trust, you wouldn't have anyone left to run a club in this country any more. Anyone remember the fiasco of Kings Lynn cancelling their match against Birmingham a couple of years ago because of a "floodlight failure" (5 days ahead of the meeting)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Just catching up on this, I was wortking up North this week and I was in Manchester Monday and Tuesday, and I arrived to farily warm and clear sky's mid afternoon and it certainly did not look like there had been heavy rain in central Manchester anytime in the preceeding hours. wasnt called off for rain, the bowser got stuck on the second bend and pi55ed itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedraid Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Obviously, all of the facts are not yet out, but if the BV management have done what many are suggesting (which is looking increasingly likely) then they have damaged the reputation of the club and embarrassed the fans. As a BV fan, I turned up to find the stadium shut on Monday.. I really feel sorry for the Poole fans who came all that way. I feel that the BV promotion need to make a gesture to Poole. I'd like to see them put a coach on free of charge and give free entry to any Poole fan on that coach for the replay.. If need be 2 coaches, wouldn't cost that much, would create a better atmosphere for the rematch and the promotion can come on the centre green at the interval to personally apologise. The SCB, may want to take additional sanctions, this IMHO should be in addition. Personally I hope that Poole have to return... As fans we shouldn't miss out on watching way I feel would have been some great racing. I would add though that this isn't the first time this has happened.. Quite a few promotions have done similar... This should be an opportunity to stop this stupidity now once and for all.. It's damaging "our" sport. Raid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Sky covering the issue - doesnt seem like Belle Vue have a leg to stand on - http://www1.skysports.com/speedway/news/12268/8684141/Elite-League-Speedway-SCB-investigate-Belle-Vue-s-postponement-with-Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 They officially have no money anyway. According to the last set of accounts filed by Belle Vue Speedway in November 2011 they has £0 cash at bank, liabilities of £486,271, a net worth of -£447,167 Those numbers, in my honest opinion, have the depth of a grain of sand. Anyone doubt it? Tell me how they managed to poach Worrall away from Lakeside then. Maybe they've got the same accountant as Ken Dodd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 wasnt called off for rain, the bowser got stuck on the second bend and pi55ed itself. Yeah sorry, I posted before fully reading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Just wait now for the usual Belle Vue fans to come on here and defend their club. Should be a good laugh Not me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 wasnt called off for rain, the bowser got stuck on the second bend and pi55ed itself. Bowser? Looks to me like someone filled a few B&Q orange buckets and chucked that down...They didn't even make it look convincing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Obviously, all of the facts are not yet out, but if the BV management have done what many are suggesting (which is looking increasingly likely) then they have damaged the reputation of the club and embarrassed the fans. As a BV fan, I turned up to find the stadium shut on Monday.. I really feel sorry for the Poole fans who came all that way. I feel that the BV promotion need to make a gesture to Poole. I'd like to see them put a coach on free of charge and give free entry to any Poole fan on that coach for the replay.. If need be 2 coaches, wouldn't cost that much, would create a better atmosphere for the rematch and the promotion can come on the centre green at the interval to personally apologise. The SCB, may want to take additional sanctions, this IMHO should be in addition. Personally I hope that Poole have to return... As fans we shouldn't miss out on watching way I feel would have been some great racing. I would add though that this isn't the first time this has happened.. Quite a few promotions have done similar... This should be an opportunity to stop this stupidity now once and for all.. It's damaging "our" sport. Raid. Lol, signing off with "Raid" like its your real name. Away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Wonder how many bricks the fine will be ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Just wait now for the usual Belle Vue fans to come on here and defend their club. Should be a good laugh Theres no way you can defend any wrong doing even if it is your own club, but some lynn fans were guilty of the same during the BV call off farce when the home side had missing riders. Its not right and brings the sport into disrepute but over the years several clubs have pulled this stunt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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